PrinceofPein
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and again you are reading it wrong and only seeing what u want to see lmao, and i am pretty knowledgeable on both verses more than you lmao
So gojo infinity can stop things he has not programmed it to stop?
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Madara Uchiha VS Satoru Gojo
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at this point this is just going on a circle....
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.... the amount of contradiction in one post is absolutely ******* baffling.
They don’t need chakra specifically, but some sort of internal supernatural (preferably life-force related) energy that flows throughout the body.
Going off of this, since genjutsu works by messing with chakra flowing through the nervous system you can assume that it works as long as the target has a supernatural energy that naturally flows through their nervous system.
It seriously boggles my mind that you can't even read what your posting correctly.
They don’t need chakra specifically, but some sort of internal supernatural (preferably life-force related) energy that flows throughout the body.
Going off of this, since genjutsu works by messing with chakra flowing through the nervous system you can assume that it works as long as the target has a supernatural energy that naturally flows through their nervous system.
It seriously boggles my mind that you can't even read what your posting correctly.
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Yes actually and if genjutsu wont work it is a stomp and this thread should be closed but i still stand on genjutsu working btw
YEah yeah, CE flows through the body in JJK too
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He didn't go through the entire world's elements to program shit to stop, he programs stuff to let in. Anything with ill intent gets stopped automatically.
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Not via a specialized nervous system. CE isn't produced in the nervous system and flow through it like Chakra.
Again, totally different.
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Read above wincons. Genjutsu isn't the only thing that works in Narutoverse, try being more creative especially when you're arguing for a character that doesn't even use genjutsu.
It doesn't flow through jackshit, it's just energy that rises from negative emotions. There's no "flow" involved, at least not in the way chakra has an entire system.
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Agree with Lordginsama Chakra and cursed energy aren't the same
PrinceofPein
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Huh dude chakra is not produced in the nervous systems ffs,
Nah he said based on mass, speed and type i will need to see the ill intent shit and when did chakra become sentient?
aside from genjutsu what else does not get stopped by infinity?
Oh dude really? really?
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Meant to say disturbed, a simple mistaken. Point being very obvious aside from that, that CE and Chakra aren't comparable.
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Chakra is like Spiritual life force... If it's gone you die, you use it to create elemental type attacks that people normally has and use which has their origin behind those elements
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Just went back to reread JJK for proofs and found it in the literal first chapter.
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Cursed energy arises from negative emotions and flows out of people (similar to how reiryoku flows out of people as reiatsu in bleach). There's no flow system inside the body. Jujutsu Sorcerers actually have to circulate it themselves for using cursed energy, but as Todo states, its actually inefficient to do that (make energy flow from heart to wherever you're using it) and not flowing cursed energy is how sorcerers use it. (Check back this comment for links). Attempting to circulate cursed energy forms the basis of Itadori's delayed punch (which again according to Todo is actually not how you're supposed to use cursed energy) and even he, a pretty fresh cursed energy user, grows out of it.
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Chapter 37.
TODO LITERALLY SAID YOU DON'T FLOW YOUR CURSED ENERGY LOL, Even Yuji's only doing it because he's really new at manipulating cursed energy. Most sorcerers, even low level ones, use cursed energy as is as Todo states most people would be super confused as to what Yuji is doing.
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Cursed energy arises from negative emotions and flows out of people (similar to how reiryoku flows out of people as reiatsu in bleach). There's no flow system inside the body. Jujutsu Sorcerers actually have to circulate it themselves for using cursed energy, but as Todo states, its actually inefficient to do that (make energy flow from heart to wherever you're using it) and not flowing cursed energy is how sorcerers use it. (Check back this comment for links). Attempting to circulate cursed energy forms the basis of Itadori's delayed punch (which again according to Todo is actually not how you're supposed to use cursed energy) and even he, a pretty fresh cursed energy user, grows out of it.
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Chapter 37.
TODO LITERALLY SAID YOU DON'T FLOW YOUR CURSED ENERGY LOL, Even Yuji's only doing it because he's really new at manipulating cursed energy. Most sorcerers, even low level ones, use cursed energy as is as Todo states most people would be super confused as to what Yuji is doing.
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It's like using Conqueror's haki and equalizing it with Chakra... Literally makes no sense
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in all serious i think we should give some leeway to naruto and atleast equalise it with a flowing energy system at the very least. If we wanted to really specifiy it down to the actual nervous system i can definitely see genjutsu being axe from most verses.
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So yes dude. Really. Really.
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Ya can't mess with energy flow if Sorcerers don't have an energy flow to mess with.
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Depend of how the information manipulation works, let's see, some characters can change the informations of objects/people, and it can even change their nature, if a character resist it, it doesnt means that he can resist having his mind being full filled by limitless amount of information
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Updated with links and stuff.Just went back to reread JJK for proofs and found it in the literal first chapter.
MANGA Plus by SHUEISHA
Cursed energy arises from negative emotions and flows out of people (similar to how reiryoku flows out of people as reiatsu in bleach). There's no flow system inside the body. Jujutsu Sorcerers actually have to circulate it themselves for using cursed energy, but as Todo states, its actually inefficient to do that (make energy flow from heart to wherever you're using it) and not flowing cursed energy is how sorcerers use it. (Check back this comment for links). Attempting to circulate cursed energy forms the basis of Itadori's delayed punch (which again according to Todo is actually not how you're supposed to use cursed energy) and even he, a pretty fresh cursed energy user, grows out of it.
Jujutsu Kaisen Manga
Jujutsu Kaisen Manga, Read the latest Chapters of Jujutsu Kaisen Manga Online free in English With High Quality. at ww8.jujutsukaisen.online.
TODO LITERALLY SAID YOU DON'T FLOW YOUR CURSED ENERGY LOL, Even Yuji's only doing it because he's really new at manipulating cursed energy. Most sorcerers, even low level ones, use cursed energy as is as Todo states most people would be super confused as to what Yuji is doing.
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Since being spread by Hagoromo, better known as the Sage of Six Paths, chakra has become a form of life energy that all individuals produce to some degree; those who run out of chakra will die. Produced within and manipulated by organs such as the heart,[3] the energy circulates throughout the body in a network called the "Chakra Pathway System", which is similar to the cardiovascular system. Groups such as shinobi have learned to generate more chakra and release it outside their bodies through pressure points called tenketsu in order to perform jutsu.
Chakra is created when two more primal energies, known collectively as one's "stamina", are moulded together. Physical energy (身体エネルギー, shintai enerugī) is collected from each of the body's cells and can be increased through training, stimulants, and exercise. Spiritual energy (精神エネルギー, seishin enerugī, English TV: Mental Energy) is derived from the mind's consciousness and can be increased through studying, meditation, and experience.
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Cursed energy is born from negative emotions such as grief and anger. These negative feelings are common in human society so almost everyone possesses cursed energy. If this amount is higher than a certain degree, it grants the person the ability to see curses, which is very rare among the human race.
One From Negative Emotions and one from Life Force Spiritual Energy
Chakra is created when two more primal energies, known collectively as one's "stamina", are moulded together. Physical energy (身体エネルギー, shintai enerugī) is collected from each of the body's cells and can be increased through training, stimulants, and exercise. Spiritual energy (精神エネルギー, seishin enerugī, English TV: Mental Energy) is derived from the mind's consciousness and can be increased through studying, meditation, and experience.
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Cursed energy is born from negative emotions such as grief and anger. These negative feelings are common in human society so almost everyone possesses cursed energy. If this amount is higher than a certain degree, it grants the person the ability to see curses, which is very rare among the human race.
One From Negative Emotions and one from Life Force Spiritual Energy
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This is like the third time I'm saying this, but if Madada resists domain expansion for some time he can izanagi out of it. Domains are weaker from outside and he can probably break it with AP, then since Gojo won't be able to use Infinite, use genjutsu or sealing. Actually discuss whether Madara resists domain expansion and whether Gojo will even see a need to use it, rather than being a mindless nardo fan and go "genjutsu gg" for everything. Like goddammit Naruto as a whole has a ton of stuff aside from mindlessly going "genjutsu gg" every thread.
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Hm, no, he wanted to test Guy and his own power
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And the way its used is different as well. Chakra is intrinsically linked to a separate chakra system, which is linked to other systems of the body but isn't the same. Its used by circulating it throughout the body by good chakra control.
Cursed energy on the other hand fills the body and doesn't need circulating to use it. For example if you want to punch with cursed energy, you use the CE in the hand, not circulate it from your heart to your hand, then use it.
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What? So he completely abandoned his goals to test guy?
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he didnt abandoned his goals, he literally used the infinite tsukuyiomi laterWhat? So he completely abandoned his goals to test guy?
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that scenario seems iffy and okay let us not equalize verse so now you have to prove that infinity can block chakra
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He didn't abandon his goals, Madara was just having fun fighting with Guy and didn't use his Hax because he's cocky/arrogant, and when Naruto and Sasuke arrived he realized he needed to get back on track with his goalWhat? So he completely abandoned his goals to test guy?
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He literally almost died and didn't use genjutsu
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Why would he use Genjutsu against Guy if his goal is the IT, which he used?
and yeah, he was testing Guy power
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Then he'll test Gojo's power.
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Madara is not in his Rikkudou key, which is the one that wanted to test his own power and Guy power
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No, he didn't program what goes through, the infinite distance is only there for what his brain can recognize as a target/threat.
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Ok then why doesn't he use genjutsu in battle then?
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Madara's Cocky/Arrogant and wants a fight.
IIRC there's only two times Madara used Genjutsu in combat, one against a random swordsman and another on the 4th Raikage (Though via Wood Clone)
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Guess we can also remove Itachi, Obito and Kakashi.
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he did used few times, one of it was when he stomped a lot of fodders
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its better to make rematches about it, iirc, obito and kakashi had more arguments others than genjutsu if i am not wrong
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Did he start with it?
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nope you still need to prove gojo can passively stop chakra with infinity, like i said nothing stops madara from putting it in gojo brains and haxing him
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