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emphasis on 'forced lowball', because it literally isn't wrong, it just doesn't have a base chart to go off of safely without suspending disbelief because of real life limitations.
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One Piece: God Tier Upgrade Via Strong World Calculation Additions
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That explosion was made by the space pirates, but Enel is the only "bridge" that connects these values to the rest of the characters, right?
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yeah
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Enel beat the guys who could tank that explosion and destroys the machinery that could produce it without being broken or even scratched.
I don't like using bounties as a measure of strength, but Oda basically put his bounty near Ace's if he were a pirate and added 'Luffy as LUCKY to be rubber', clearly refering to how built different the dude Enel was.
A character who did those feats put on the same level as Ace, who scales to the god tiers.. That's a sane scaling chain if you ask me. It can be used as support for post-skypiea Enel specifically, and the god tiers who Oda referred to when saying there are pirates in the blue sea Enel wouldn't handle.
Not the thread for it- but definitely worth a thought.
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I stated before about my issues of using feats from Strong World, but like ObberGobb stated they already been accepted so they are going to be used anyway.
And this feats do actually scale to Shiki's AP, so i don't see anything that stop us from apply them to him or to other characters.
Especially when we always see him using gravity to enhance his physical attacks, similar to how Whitebeard with his quakes.
And the scaling from Greenbull should be the definitive proof that his physical stats should be comparable to his own gravity.
And this feats do actually scale to Shiki's AP, so i don't see anything that stop us from apply them to him or to other characters.
Personally i always thought that it was stupid, there its no reason for his regular AP to not scale to his own gravity.
Especially when we always see him using gravity to enhance his physical attacks, similar to how Whitebeard with his quakes.
And the scaling from Greenbull should be the definitive proof that his physical stats should be comparable to his own gravity.
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Monkey D. Luffy, known as "Straw Hat Luffy", is the main protagonist of the manga and anime, One Piece. He's the son of Monkey D. Dragon, a revolutionary considered “The World's Most Dangerous Criminal”; the grandson of Monkey D. Garp, a powerful Marine Vice-Admiral who had cornered the late...
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Yamato is the child of Kaidou, one of the Four Emperors of the Sea. Groomed from a young age to be his heir, Yamato instead developed a profound admiration for the samurai Kozuki Oden. After his death, Yamato chose to become Oden, and adopted his mannerisms. This path has put Yamato at odds with...
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Agreed.
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WHAT THE HECK, this thread came out of nowhere Tempest, thought you were done Power scaling One Piece? Are we seriously getting High 6-A God Tiers after all!?
Edit: I see most of the Top Tiers have been upgraded to High 6-A already, this is awesome
Edit: I see most of the Top Tiers have been upgraded to High 6-A already, this is awesome
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My exaton Whitebeard calcs that were killed by planet fault size rules have been avenged.
This is amazing.
A HUGE round of applause to @KingTempest is in order!
This is amazing.
A HUGE round of applause to @KingTempest is in order!
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Amen to that, been waiting for this, thank you Tempest! Claps
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It's not the result that was the problem, the methodology just didn't work
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Wonder what Vs Matchups we'll see on this site now that One Piece God Tiers are High 6-A?
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there's barely any high 6-a ppl in this weenie hut jr wiki
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The issue with them wasn't that they were outliers.
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It's an unquantifiable amp, ut won't justify a 250x amp.
Can I see the calculation? And why wasn't there an effort made to pusue such a massive upgrade?
Sorry I read the joules value as exatons.
Then how?
No he was trying to sink the island. What part of that was showing off? Because he was smiling while doing it?
I was wrong. It wasn't enraged but it wasn't casual either.
Can I see the calculation?
If you can't quantify the feat then how are you going to use it as supporting evidence?
And if the feat really is in the exaton to moon level ranges then that also puts it as a candidate for an outlier. 2 casual feats from the top tiers are 250x-10000x times stronger than the strongest calculated serious feat and many many other casual feats at a greater difference. The lower end feats are much more consistent.
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Unquantifiable by wiki standards. Unknown in its canon. You're judging an unknown value as 'the highest possible one' while ruling out several amps that possibly make it tens of times stronger and then some.
Because again- our own logic doesn't cover that. Earth physics don't allow any magnitude greater than 10.5 IIRC otherwise the world would cease. It wasn't persued because the wiki would have to create a whole new standard for fictional earthquakes.
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Lemme remind you that between Luffy and Moria was a 1000/2000x difference during Shadow's asgard and Luffy still hurt him/took several direct hits from him. And between Luffy and Hody was a jump dozens (if not hundreds if the wiki didn't ignore the possible amount he ate) and Hody was still not one shotted during his weaker state.
In fiction that gap isn't as ridiculous as you might imagine it to be.
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Sink the island where his alies are? Bro what? Read the whole marineford arc, you can see him trying the best he can to protect his sons, and then later is where he went more full out but it was against his enemies, his alies were always on that island until whitebeards death... He was only going to sink it if they left him alone on that island
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Y'all, this means Impel Down / Marineford Crocodile now has Exaton level durability thanks to Jozu.
AP in the Gigatons... with Dura in the Exatons.
I'm pretty sure scaling Doflamingo to Kaido based on Kin'emon is less nonsensical, because then Crocodile would scale to Doflamigo and he'd at least have an AP that wasn't a tens of millions of times less than his Dura.
AP in the Gigatons... with Dura in the Exatons.
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I mean Sai used to have 7-C AP with 7-A durability.
And Boro's ship from OPM has 6-C to 6-B AP but exaton lvl durability.
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He did? Huh.
Yeah but that's less weird because Ships and other Vehicles (usually) aren't living beings. Their armor being a 1,000,000 stronger than their guns is less jarring than when a person's skin is 1,000,000 tougher than their punches, because unlike a human being, their offense and defense aren't quite as interconnected.
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Marineford was a scaling shitfest tbh
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Why would he try to sink the island.
When his children are there
And the only reason why he didn't sink the island for 90% of the war was because his children were there
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His SBS also says he NEVER takes what his others value as 'treasure', and marineford is the centerpoint of justice in the world for the people. He wouldn't sink it because of his morals regardless tbh.
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I don't think that SBS should be relied on since he didn't have any problems in actually destroying the base of Marineford or killing people. It's a stretch to say he wouldn't sink the island later in the fight just because people value the island.
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Monkey D. Luffy (Post-Timeskip)
Monkey D. Luffy, known as "Straw Hat Luffy", is the main protagonist of the manga and anime, One Piece. He's the son of Monkey D. Dragon, a revolutionary considered “The World's Most Dangerous Criminal”; the grandson of Monkey D. Garp, a powerful Marine Vice-Admiral who had cornered the late...Yamato (One Piece)
Yamato is the child of Kaidou, one of the Four Emperors of the Sea. Groomed from a young age to be his heir, Yamato instead developed a profound admiration for the samurai Kozuki Oden. After his death, Yamato chose to become Oden, and adopted his mannerisms. This path has put Yamato at odds with...
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He split it in half so his sons could escape, otherwise he had no interst in sinking it when having several chances to. Blackbeard was the one who tried that and got stopped by Sengoku directly at the mere thought of it
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@Antvasima can you unlock these please so Tempest can apply the changes?Can someone please unlock these 2 profiles
Monkey D. Luffy (Post-Timeskip)
Monkey D. Luffy, known as "Straw Hat Luffy", is the main protagonist of the manga and anime, One Piece. He's the son of Monkey D. Dragon, a revolutionary considered “The World's Most Dangerous Criminal”; the grandson of Monkey D. Garp, a powerful Marine Vice-Admiral who had cornered the late...Yamato (One Piece)
Yamato is the child of Kaidou, one of the Four Emperors of the Sea. Groomed from a young age to be his heir, Yamato instead developed a profound admiration for the samurai Kozuki Oden. After his death, Yamato chose to become Oden, and adopted his mannerisms. This path has put Yamato at odds with...
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It's not sbs, it's in his vivrecard, actually nevermind his vc is a lil different
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Somebody gotta unlock luffy and yamato
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My b. I meant vivre card, yeah.
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So whats the scaling looking like for the God Tiers and the high Tiers? Are we downscale the sacabards to a lower value of High 6-A or the same value of 1 Exaton?
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