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One Piece: Edward Can Shake Stars
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In the grand scheme of things*, not that they're jumping distance from one another
I could've sworn that One Piece ship speeds as antifeats for distances and sizes already got shat on.
They have marines taking a few days to get from the red line to Wano and less than a day to get over the calm belt, both ginormous distances even if we used earth sized planets, or people taking less than an hour to cross the gargantuan red line which should be so much wider than it is
Doesn't mean much
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speaking of, has anyone even calced the speed of one piece ships? i feel like that'd be useful
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Outside of their size, they just seem to be regular ships.
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Yup
So unless yall wanna say hypersonic ships... then nah
So unless yall wanna say hypersonic ships... then nah
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I don't think anyone has responded to this post by Arc7.
In the context for the statement which is the main evidence here, Chapter 553 is showing the Whitebeard Pirates begin their assault and firing cannons at the Marines.
This is then followed up by the Vice Admirals coming to the front lines.
Vice Admiral Tsuru is among them as she is told be Vice Admiral Yamakaji to get back which is when she gives her statement.
Nothing about this is specifically about Whitebeard's Devil Fruit. She doesn't say that the reason why won't be safe is because she'll be hit by a quake from Whitebeard anywhere on the entire planet. I think it's a pretty generous interpretation of her words, personally and not enough for a solid Stellar range upgrade.
@Deceived3596 proposed a Possibly rating for it, and I can agree to that at most.
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I haven't been counted for the polls but I agree with this most counter arguments are headcanons or miss interpretations of something
In anyway common Kachon W
In anyway common Kachon W
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Ok thats one scan out of what, 10?
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I've already addressed the others earlier in the thread. I don't think the Kanji argument is conclusive for a solid rating either, and the Blackbeard statement is easily hyperbolic in nature. He's drunk off his own power and boasting after just declaring that he'll conquer the world with his power. Spouting off phrases like "I can destroy everything" is not completely solid otherwise we'd give the Emperor unlimited AP.
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Eh, this seems more like hyperbolic language to me, we’ve seen the effects of his earthquakes ripple outwards across the planet, but not sure that directly translates to WB’s range
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that quite literally translates to his range. remember, wb's main ability is vibrations, not earthquakes
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It still has to be their typical, combat-effective range however. Light - for example - can travel in a vacuum indefinitely and cross vast interstellar distances. Should Kizaru's laser beams have Interstellar range?
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I mean, yeh lol
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the difference is kizaru's light hasnt been demonstrated to have this range, whitebeard's range has been displayed on screen
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Whitebeard's attacks have never been displayed to have Stellar range on screen...
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Yes, if he can attack people in other parts of space, it'll work.
If you shoot a bullet in space, it'll go on indefinitely because nothings stop its movement.
This is a heavily uneducated counter. If somebody's light can travel interstellar distances based on science, then they can travel those distances
You have a tendency of bringing up a high ass stat that nobody asked about or cares about, being wrong about it, and saying "does this mean we should do this?"
Whitebeard's quakes affecting other people by creating quakes that hurt that far is directly correlated to his range.
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@KingTempest; calling it "heavily uneducated" is pretty dismissive tbh. My point is that we don't do such things for other characters just because it is scientifically possible for their abilities to reach that far. We go primarily by their feats.
Yes, earthquakes can travel across vast distances simply by nature... Just like how light can travel incredible distances by nature. It doesn't mean Whitebeard can launch an effective attack at someone on the other side of the planet. And likewise I wouldn't say that anyone with a laserbeam automatically gets range that high; I'd see what they can actually hit with the laserbeam first.
Yes, earthquakes can travel across vast distances simply by nature... Just like how light can travel incredible distances by nature. It doesn't mean Whitebeard can launch an effective attack at someone on the other side of the planet. And likewise I wouldn't say that anyone with a laserbeam automatically gets range that high; I'd see what they can actually hit with the laserbeam first.
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Nah we can and do if science backs it up enough. Unfortunately for lasers we never see where they go out or they just end up exploding, so that doesn't count
Dude can send earthquakes and tsunamis to people far away. If it affects them then it's part of the range
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If Kizaru's light beams can go that far without dissipating or dispersing, yes.
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more accurately it translates to the Gura Gura's range. Not like WB physically can replicate that range.
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Do we count chain reactions as range? Like what are the specifics of what counts as someone’s effective attack range
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It's not a chain reaction
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Can we just compromise with the "possibly" rating proposed by me?
This back and forth isn't going anywhere, the arguments made by the pro-side aren't convincing the anti-side and the arguments made by the anti-side aren't convincing the pro-side. It's an exercise in futility from both sides.
This back and forth isn't going anywhere, the arguments made by the pro-side aren't convincing the anti-side and the arguments made by the anti-side aren't convincing the pro-side. It's an exercise in futility from both sides.
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I'm fine with a possibly, it just seems like every argument is being thrown at it to stop it from going through
Over 170 messages passed before the new argument of "range from quakes ain't range" was put into fruition
Over 170 messages passed before the new argument of "range from quakes ain't range" was put into fruition
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I'm fine with that. My arguments against the OP are against a solid range upgrade. I won't deny that there's ways to interpret certain statements, but not enough to convince me of a full rating.
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Grace is about to end. Currently 2 staff members disagree, 1 staff member is fine with possibly rating, and 5 staff members agree (excluding cgms and content mods. Including them they number bumps up to 8).
Once grace ends in approximately 1 hour, I'll ask for this to be closed and I'll apply the changes if nothing changes.
Once grace ends in approximately 1 hour, I'll ask for this to be closed and I'll apply the changes if nothing changes.
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Two staff members have said that they're fine with a Possibly rating (myself and KT). I'd like for the other staff members to comment if they support a full rating for the range or a possibly rating due to the lack of supporting feats.
@DarkDragonMedeus @Elizhaa @LordTracer @Maverick_Zero_X @Duedate8898
Just because grace ends doesn't mean it has to be applied immediately is there is still ongoing discussion.
@DarkDragonMedeus @Elizhaa @LordTracer @Maverick_Zero_X @Duedate8898
Just because grace ends doesn't mean it has to be applied immediately is there is still ongoing discussion.
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Hopefully they comment in time.
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As I mentioned above:
Just because grace ends doesn't mean it has to be applied immediately is there is still ongoing discussion. 48 hours is the minimum threshold, not an "Instant apply the CRT once this time has passed."
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Don't get it misconstrued, I'm for a full rating but I'm not against a possibly
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Is there a page that says this?
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No problem, all I said was that you were fine with a Possibly.
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My original vote was for possibly, and I will stick with it for now
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Not exactly correct, KT supports a full rating but said that a possibly is fine if the compromise is needed (Edit: Ninja'd)
And frankly, I don't think it's needed given the overwhelming staff support
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Who is still arguing and what are their points about?
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