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S-Hawk + S-Shark > Kaku + Stussy + Lucci + Fodders
Exo Sanji >>>>>>>>>> S-Shark (took no damage from his hits)
En-ō Zoro >>>>>>>>> S-Hawk (matched him with no-haki Nitoryu)
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One Piece Chapter 1078: Escape Limit (Fan Translations)
- Thread starter Mr.Cinos15
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Exo Sanji >>>>>>>>>> S-Shark (took no damage from his hits)
En-ō Zoro >>>>>>>>> S-Hawk (matched him with no-haki Nitoryu)
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Yeah I mistyped. This even furthers my point
DaMonkeMan
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I'd try to help you make a CRT on this if you're up to it but I already know it's gonna get rejected because they're not ready to accept that yet.
DaMonkeMan
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Ehh tbf SeraJimbe didn't take any notable damage from Diable Jambe despite having his flame off at the time.
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Sentomaru's statement shouldn't include Lucci, as he was knocked out for a sec right before blitzing Sentomaru.
It would include Kaku and Stussy though, which is consistent with how Kaku and Stussy called them ominously powerful.
Not to mention, Hybrid Lucci has been shown on par with no-Hao G4 Luffy, so Awakened Lucci clashing with (but losing to) No-Hao G5 is consistent.
It would include Kaku and Stussy though, which is consistent with how Kaku and Stussy called them ominously powerful.
I'm pretty sure that's more or less how he currently scales, although he downscales from Buso Haki G5 Luffy w/ no Hao.
No one really disagrees with this.
IIRC he said he'd get Luffy (like that'll ever happen), and then go for his crew.
Not to mention, Hybrid Lucci has been shown on par with no-Hao G4 Luffy, so Awakened Lucci clashing with (but losing to) No-Hao G5 is consistent.
Hey don't look at me, you know my views on the Queen stuff.
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I guess this just means Base Exo Sanji > Diable Jambe Human Sanji
DaMonkeMan
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Feels weird but Ig it makes sense.
If you try to use this scaling again I'm going to eat your soul.
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I'd be down for that. Heck, remind me sometime and I'll add it to the sandbox.
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Bold of you to assume I have a soul.
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That makes sense tbh.
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Slight correction, SeraJimbe actually dodged Robin's attack
DaMonkeMan
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Hmm
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Uh, no.
Sentomaru's statement was meant to include Lucci.
Sentomaru saw Lucci and Luffy fighting and believed that he needed to take out Luffy, but once Vegapunk told him that CP0 was the enemy, he told the Seraphim to take them out. Context implies that it was mainly referring to Lucci, as he was the only one really attacking at that point.
When?
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If he didn't, he would have been hit with the Face Fleur.
DaMonkeMan
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All Eseseso had to do was use the "Lucci is the strongest CP0 agent" statement to put him over Kaku and thus put him in around YC2.
But he just had to try and say he's comparable to G4 Luffy.
But he just had to try and say he's comparable to G4 Luffy.
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Lucci was busy fighting Luffy, and he only had the Seraphim attack Stussy and Kaku (and the fodder).
The last 2 chapters.
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Sentomaru told S-Shark and S-Hawk to deal with Lucci and co. so that S-Snake could lead Luffy and the others to the Vacuum Rocket.
DaMonkeMan
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Erm guys Dorry and Brogy were standing next to/near Shanks while preparing for a fight this means they're Yonko level!!
That's how you sound.
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Well that's actually good support, but let's wait to see whether S-Shark gets more feats.
Different context.
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I mean, they're maybe gonna end up as Scabbard-tiers depending on how the fight goes.
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And not to mention Shanks wanted those 2 to help ensure a quick end to the fight against Kid, so yeah we know they're pretty powerful.
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Characters being relative are only for genuine combined attacks like these:
No for people attacking at the same time.
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Uh, no? Why would we need that?
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To be more certain of his tier/scaling.
I don't doubt he'll get some of that sweet high 6-A sauce, I just want to be sure.
For now the only Seraphim who we know for sure is a high 6-A is S-Hawk, cuz that dude is a beast.
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Huh?????
DaMonkeMan
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I mean Little Jinbe was taking hits from Sanji and is supposedly even trying to counter him now, but okay.
DaMonkeMan
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Winbe
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Look, if he's revealed to clash evenly with Sanji's kicks or whatnot, we can slap the High 6-A on him.I mean Little Jinbe was taking hits from Sanji and is supposedly even trying to counter him now, but okay.
S-Bear at the moment seems to have dura-neg lasers but that's it.
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Well to be fair, he didn't know back then if the mods would permanently make him a piece of shit, but now that he knows he's cool, he's like "whatever lol".Sanji spent 10 chapters in onigashima having an internal conflict about himself changing, but when it comes to nami, this mf only needs 2 seconds to make the switch.
I love this man he's too funny
DaMonkeMan
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Y'all can't do that.
You gave Lucci H6A durability despite the fact that he was literally cracking his neck ( do you make Ace's dura H6A for the fact that he endured BB slamming his neck, even though it clearly nearly broke it? ) and coughing blood from each hit...
But SeraJimbe tanks 2 hits from Base and DJ Sanji and y'all say he's not H6A.
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Also the definitive thing we know about the Seraphim is the fact that they all likely have High 6-A durability (personally I wouldn't be surprised if all of them were relatively equal).
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He's talking about S-Shark having High 6-A AP, not Dura
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Yeah, he knows.
S-Shark being stated to be capable of defeating several High 6-A characters in a 2v3 is 100% enough to give him High 6-A AP.
DaMonkeMan
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Why would the Seraphim not be H6A in terms of AP?
You can argue that SeraJimbe seems to be the most inexperienced of the bunch, but in order for him to have an entertaining fight with a H6A character like Sanji he's gonna need AP at least comparable to his.
If they mirror BM and Kaidou at Onigashima and use Hakoku Sovereignty that's likely gonna **** up Kidd and his goons.
And Kidd could take punches from Life-Amped, pissed Big Mom.
You can argue that SeraJimbe seems to be the most inexperienced of the bunch, but in order for him to have an entertaining fight with a H6A character like Sanji he's gonna need AP at least comparable to his.
Higher than that.
If they mirror BM and Kaidou at Onigashima and use Hakoku Sovereignty that's likely gonna **** up Kidd and his goons.
And Kidd could take punches from Life-Amped, pissed Big Mom.
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COUGH Kaku and Stussy said they could beat the Seraphim in base COUGH
Honestly, the biggest issue is that we really haven't seen his actual attacks.
Facts.
