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Legend of Zelda General Discussion Thread

ファイの記憶情報にない場所です「終焉の者の魔力が支配する空間と推測.
"This is a place that is not in my memory information. I speculate this is a space ruled by the magical power of Demise."
is what I got more or less, doesn't say created, but it does he his magic power rules it.
Kanji meaning.
 
hmmm I see.

Fi does have another comment about the place (She has different responces depending if you ask for a hint, which is what she answers above, and analysis. English interestingly enough states something similar to the above about the space being ruled by his magic in the analysis part so maybe they swapped it. If not then hey, should be a solid range feat for his magic since she says the space is ruled by it and not the small area he fights Link in, which is still nice.
 
Only other comments Fi makes about the dimension right here, if she ain't saying anything about Demise making it then massive L for him tbh, kinda embarrassing for the root of all evil to be weaker than a mask.
 
Chariot190 said:
ファイの記憶情報にない場所です「終焉の者の魔力が支配する空間と推測.
"This is a place that is not in my memory information. I speculate this is a space ruled by the magical power of Demise."
is what I got more or less, doesn't say created, but it does he his magic power rules it.
Kanji meaning.
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Could it also be taken as Demise sustaining it?
 
TartaChocholate said:
Could it also be taken as Demise sustaining it?
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Maybe? The dimension argubly fades away once Demise is defeated and sealed away within the Master Sword, putting Link back into Hyrule but it's not clear if that's because it actually ceases to exist or if "yeah magic just sent Link back home" is the reason.
 
Literally, all it says is that this 3-dimensional space is ruled/controlled (both work, the word used can mean either) by Demise's magical/supernatural powers.
Nothing more, nothing less, what we want to do with that we'd have to figure out.
 
The second scan you sent says something like "It seems that Skyward cannot be used here because this is a special location controlled by the Demon King Demise".
(As in, Link can't just **** off from that space because it's ruled by his magic ig idk).
 
Chariot190 said:
"It seems that Skyward cannot be used here because this is a special location controlled by the Demon King Demise".
(As in, Link can't just **** off from that space because it's ruled by his magic ig idk).
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She's probably referring to Link being unable to use skyward strikes, so yeah I guess this is more of a range feat for Demises magic than anything else.
 
Guy we can scale Demise to 3-A because Links inventory screen states that he holds all 3 pieces of the Triforce even in the final battle please ignore the fact that the Triforce is hanging out on the statue of Hylia the entire time after Link uses it to kill the imprisoned

TartaChocholate said:
But Imho, I do think this could be good enough for a "possibly".
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Maybe, not entirely certain how solid these statements are for a possibly rating but eh.

Besides the Demise stuff there's some other cool (Not ap related) stuff. The game doesn't really elaborate on the silent realms that Link enters although since they can only be accessed with magical artifacts that came from Hylia don't think it'd be a stretch that it's her powers yeeting his soul from his body to put him into the realms, arguably applies to the main golden goddesses as well given 3 of the 4 silent realms are stated to be theirs (Dins silent realm, Nayrus silent realm, etc...), and also serves as an interdimensional range feat for Hylia since she can access these realms and hid various items and the Triforce in them (Might even give her astral projection since it seems you can only enter by leaving your physical body).

Also there's the goddess walls that seem to stem from Hylias power, they make whatever is drawn into them real (Like bringing rupees into existence or arrows), which I think counts as subjective reality? Also Ghirahim probably needs power nullification, he uses the exact same cursed energy on Kolotos that is also used by cursed enemies to prevent Link from attacking. Also needless to say but Link is also missing a ton of stuff, besides obvious Master Sword stuff he's got some pretty good damage reduction, the ability to grant himself infinite stamina for a few minutes, stealth mastery, underground mobility, stuff like that.
 
So just finished replaying Link's Awakening, honestly one of my favorites in the series. Decided to browse the profile and had a question of Link's resistance to Existence Erasure. Now I know the scan given shows him being told he'd be erased, but why are we believing the Nightmares over the Wind Fish? The Owl, the spirit of the Wind Fish, says that awakening the Wind Fish will allow him to leave the island, while the actual one says that he and Link will awaken together, even stating that one day Link may recall the island in the waking world, which makes no sense if he thought Link would have been erased with the dream. What do you think?
 
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Yeah his resistance is a little sus. Even in my sandbox for his remade profile I only put it as a possibly but honestly it seems pretty clear that the Wind Fish just doesn't allow him to be erased.
 
Chariot190 said:
Does any guide corroborate his claim?
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Historia and encyclopedia just talk about Link waking the Wind Fish and causing koholint to disappear during their summary of the games story, and the latters page on koholint island itself mentions that Link escaped the dream and it's entry about the Shadow Nightmares just talks about them keeping the fish asleep to prevent the island from disappearing.

That's all the info that can be gotten about the whole situation of koholint being erased from the guides afaik.
 
So I decided to fix up the profiles appearance wise by bolding the abilities, since some pages have a lot or the scans make the entire page look blue. I've already done the Links and Zeldas, and I've modified the ability tabbers for BOTW Zelda, MM and TP Link to make more sense. If anyone wants to look or help feel free.
 
How does everyone hope Ganondorf will sound if he speaks in Tears of the Kingdom (Assuming he actually talks instead of making zombie noises or something)?
 
I want him to sound like Ganon
But he talks now
Just get the same VA as in WW or TP and have him speak
 
Dust_Collector said:
Yeah I can him pulling a voice like that (With some changes ofc)


I'd kill for his Wind Waker VA to speak full sentences, was always my favorite voice for him.
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Takashi Nagasako, I was thinking about him as well for his original Japanese voice. (I thought you were asking for an english voice, hence Keith David)
 
Dust_Collector said:
I was asking for a voice in general english or japanese (probably should've made that clearer when I asked). Keith David could pull off a pretty good Ganondorf for the english dub.
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Yeah, my bad as well sorry. IMHO, Keith could fit pretty well if he makes the performance somewhat less somber and a bit raspier and more aggressive, to communicate better Ganondorf's might and overall imposing presence.
 
What do you think Ganondorf's character is going to be? Are they gonna flesh him out like they did in WW or is he just going to be the generic evil again?
 
I doubt they'd go with anything besides pure evil for him, it's what they've always done for his character outside of Wind Waker (And even then the only fleshing out he got there was a single sentence that a lot of people call bullshit on anyway) so I doubt they'd flesh him out to any noticeable degree. Especially since they were leaning into him being the rawest form of evil and hatred in BOTW more then they ever did before.
 
It doesn't qualify for the sites pocket dimension feats criteria, for stuff like two characters suddenly ending up in another dimension the default assumption is that it's just dimensional travel/teleportation unless there's concrete proof that the dimension was actually created by one of those characters.

Since we don't have any statements or anything saying that Vaati made the dimension (All we have to work with is him showing up and threatening to kill Link with the power of the Light Force before suddenly they're in another realm) we had to remove it as a feat and treat it as just him warping Link to another dimension that already existed.
 
Hey all, I'm new here but I read this neat document made by someone else
It's about Universal Zelda (or higher)

It's very detailed with counter arguments near the end but I hope you guys read this in detail, it's well written:
here
 
And yeah
Dust_Collector said:
It doesn't qualify for the sites pocket dimension feats criteria, for stuff like two characters suddenly ending up in another dimension the default assumption is that it's just dimensional travel/teleportation unless there's concrete proof that the dimension was actually created by one of those characters.

Since we don't have any statements or anything saying that Vaati made the dimension (All we have to work with is him showing up and threatening to kill Link with the power of the Light Force before suddenly they're in another realm) we had to remove it as a feat and treat it as just him warping Link to another dimension that already existed.
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This actually is in the document, I hope you read it as well!
 
The_Fastest_Savior said:
Hey all, I'm new here but I read this neat document made by someone else
It's about Universal Zelda (or higher)

It's very detailed with counter arguments near the end but I hope you guys read this in detail, it's well written:
here
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One paragraph in and we already have issues, it's using english mistranslations that aren't in the original text.
 
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