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I'm doing this again: Fire Dragon vs Dragon of Wrath

He Power Nulled Zero's Erasure Magic, Sting's Paralysis Seal, Zeref's Death Magic, Dimaria's Time Stop, and Zeref's Time Magic, how is that random he has done it several times
 
Then natsu can eat those flame, also natsu already show to use his flame like this

No he cannot. If so he would do it in the chapter when he fought a guy who does the same thing as Meliodas. He tanked the fire instead of eating and the flames are still the same.

Sure, but he doesn't do that a lot. He'll do it tho.

And no. Mel's wins reasons aren't debunked. Mel can still win here with those reasons and more people are convinced of it.
 
I know I keep saying this but what reasons? Natsu's physically comparable, more skilled, and this fight is melee only. There is literally no reason that Mel has that hasn't been debunked. Even Meliodas reflecting Natsu's attacks is debunked by this.
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Dude download the image and insert it. You're breaking my cellphone.

Natsu doesn't always do that. He'll do but not always.
 
Afaik Natsu use Flame of Rebuke to Power Nulled Zero's Erasure Magic

He doesn't have access to the Flame of Rebuke normally.
 
No it was just Natsu's Power in Dragon Force, and this form of Natsu is in Dragon Force, what is this serious downplay of Natsu's ability, Mel's main attacks won't even work here, how does he take it if all he can do to damage Natsu is punches and kicks
 
It's Natsu Power though, he has power nulled in his base form before, in Dragon Force is powerful, it's not just because of the Flame of Rebuke, he just mentioned the color of the flame at that moment, at no point is it stated that it's only because of the Flame of Rebuke that Natsu is nulling power
 
At that time It is his power after he has consume it but he can't have access to Flame of Rebuke normally.

He gain access to Dragon force after consume Flame of Rebuke, at no point is it stated that it's only because of the Dragonforce that Natsu is nulling power too, but we know that his dragonforce use Flame of Rebuke(golden flames) at that time, even Zero mentioned it.
 
Attaching his Power Null only to the Flames of Rebuke is riduculous, for one, he has burned away magic in his base form before, and two, he has power nulled in his Dragon Force on a higher level, to state otherwise is a severe downplay of Natsu's abilities, and it seems like your looking for reasons to disagree
 
Dragonforce will reinforce his existing magical capability

But at that time he use outside flames+Dragonforce when he Nulled Zero's Erasure Magic.
 
DemonGodMitchAubin said:
Attaching his Power Null only to the Flames of Rebuke is riduculous, for one, he has burned away magic in his base form before, and two, he has power nulled in his Dragon Force on a higher level, to state otherwise is a severe downplay of Natsu's abilities, and it seems like your looking for reasons to disagree
It is riduculous when you asume I think Natsu can only Power Null with Flames of Rebuke

What I said is he use Flames of Rebuke when he Power Null Zero's Erasure Magic.

That it.
 
His existing magical capability let him null in base, and in DF he would be able to do it better and he has been shown to do it better.
 
But he can still Power Null naturally, so there is a chnce he could power null full counter
 
A small chance considering it's not somethings can use a lot, and seems situational at best.
 
His natural flames is not gold

We know he use Flame of Rebuke at that time because he achieve Dragonforce after he eat Flame of Rebuke.
 
Its like you ignored the DF in there. DF = Dragon Force, the flames of which were gold when he used it against Mard Geer with no external power source to activate it. Unless you are telling me that the Flame of Rebuke lasted a year.
 
Is there are any statement about Dragon Force flames is gold? there are 2 mention about Flame of Rebuke is gold.

Afaik there are no direct statement who said regular DF is gold.
 
For most of the time, Manga only has 2 colors

White and black, so naturally it's hard to tell the diff between yellow, orange or gold in manga.

But you can assume any flames is orange and yellow in colour unless it stated otherwise

Or it has darker color, in that case then it probably black.
 
But the anime shows that both are Gold, and don't pull the, well that was the Anime, not the Manga argument, because Hiro works on the anime personally
 
Anime is inconsistent with the manga

Calaca Vs said:
In the previous thread it was debunked the part where Natsu can eat his reflected flames. In the manga he tanked it instead of eating it like in the anime.

Vote counted.
 
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