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Death Battle Season Eight Discussion Thread (2) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)
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Yeah, unless they go back on scaling Thawne to Wally’s teleportation feat that’d be pretty much impossible to justify. They’ve already established a gargantuan speed gap in Thawne’s favor
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Its not impossible, given they walked back Hulk thunder-clapping The One Below All in the post analysis against Broly, but its EXTREMELY unlikely.
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Wow that looks kinda awesome, where’s that from?
Vegeta vs Thor could be draw some inspiration from this
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The What If series on Disney+. Believe it or not, this is from "What If Thor Was an Only Child?".
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Late response probably, but kinda sounds like Masako X
Plus the fact Masako commented on the Black reveal
Plus the fact Masako commented on the Black reveal
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DB Worthwhile Mu left
Thor vs Vegeta-DB L
Frieza vs Megatron-DB W
Bardock vs Omni-Man-DB W
Gogeta vs Omnimon-DB L
Android 17 vs Cyborg-DB L
Gohan vs Invincible/Superboy-DB W with Invincible possible L with Superboy
Hit vs Sakuya-DB W
Silver the Hedgehog VS Future Trunks-DB W
Cell VS Dark Samus-DB L
Piccolo VS Martian Manhunter-DB L
so 4-5 for the rest possibly 4-6 in the way down
edit: 5-5 actually
Thor vs Vegeta-DB L
Frieza vs Megatron-DB W
Bardock vs Omni-Man-DB W
Gogeta vs Omnimon-DB L
Android 17 vs Cyborg-DB L
Gohan vs Invincible/Superboy-DB W with Invincible possible L with Superboy
Hit vs Sakuya-DB W
Silver the Hedgehog VS Future Trunks-DB W
Cell VS Dark Samus-DB L
Piccolo VS Martian Manhunter-DB L
so 4-5 for the rest possibly 4-6 in the way down
edit: 5-5 actually
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See it sucks because that's true based on how DB scales DB and Sonic
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I know we all want Omnimon vs Gogeta
But also keep in mind that there’s also a possibility they might do fusion vs fusion with Vegito and Gogeta
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Nah pretty pointless to do one as a official DB plus it would be lame
where you can actually have a unique Fusion Mu instead of doing a in Series DB
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Debatably. 17 has dem multipliers, while Cyborg isn't even consistently Herald tier.
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Cyborg does have Hax
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17 has multipliers?
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He's around SSJB tier
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He scales to Blue Goku during the TOP, so he'd get them multipliers.
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Fighting SSB level characters like Goku gives you a leg in that area
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Yeah somehow with no obvious signs of training 17 managed to become equal to SSB Goku.
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Bruh, we all know Super's writing is ass, lol.
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17 did implied he trained over the years
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implied? its out right stated iirc
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It really is bonkers tbh, even if tbf Android 17 by himself already had a lot of potential to tap into considering he was even stronger then Mecha Frieza and post timeskip Super Saiyans so him having absurd amounts of potential in that regard ain't that hard to swallow
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I mean it is arguably just as dumb, but if Frieza could surpass SSB Goku after just a few months of training then I'd imagine a fighter like 17 could do the same since by default he was already stronger and had untapped potential
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I mean, Android 18 straight up embarrassed SSJ Vegeta. The Androids are just naturally really strong I guess.
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I want Chaos vs Kyogre and the Ost to be close to this:
A Sonic vs Pokemon match would be awesome!
A Sonic vs Pokemon match would be awesome!
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How high can Kyogre be put at? Chaos should easily be above planetery based on DB standards due to Chaos Emerald scaling
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They're both examples of bad writing, but to be honest, DB was never known for having fantastic writing or anything, unless you count its early years. The series is just mostly dumb fun that you're not supposed to think too much about.
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This is oddly undetermined, cause DB has yet to dable in Pokémon High tiers
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True, so then what about statements or feats from Gen 3 and beyond?
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Cyborg's not even consistently Herald Tier speed versus 17's multipliers means he probably won't be able to get that off. IIRC 17 isn't a conventional machine, so hacking won't really work (Espesially since it's not something Cyborg would lead with, since it's not obvious that 17 is part machine)
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At the very least (peak):
Gen 3: DB will buy Planet level Mega Ray and those who scale to him (the primals and Deoxys) thanks to Grand Meteor Delta.
Gen 4: DB will buy Universe+ level CT, LT and Llama (likely low multiversal with volume scaling and that cosmology structure from the jewel of PiS movie) with Darkrai/Cressilia scaling to them.
Gen 5: Planet level Tao trio via scaling to Genesect (who harmed Mewtwo) plus world ending statements as supporting evidence. Keldeo/Victini will likely scale too.
Gen 6: At least planet level (defeated two mascot legendaries) possibly universe+ level Unbound Hoopa (or just universe+ level ED, summons, RW, etc) with the mortality trio scaling to planet level with Zygarde Complete scaling to Ultra Necrozma.
Gen 7: Ultra Nercozma will be star to MSS level (with it's own feats/statements), the cosmic duo will down-scale from the light eater and the Tapus, UBs and Diet Arceus will down-scale from the lion/bat.
Gen 8: Eternamax Eternatus will likely be Multi-Continental to Planet level or higher (depending on which legendaries DB scales it too) naturally the doggos will scale it but that's about it (they may scale prime Calyrex to them tho).
Tl;dr version:
Fully evolved mons/exceptional NFE mons: High 7-C to High 7-A via Machamp/seismic toss scaling.
Standard legendaries: low 6-B or higher via legendary bird scaling and downscaling from cover legendaries.
Mascot legendaries: High 6-A to 5-B via Groudon/Mega Ray scaling as well as multiple world ending statements.
Gen 7 legendaries: 4-C to 4-A via scaling to Ultra Necrozma and pretty much downscaling from it.
Gen 4 legendaries: Low 2-C to 2-C via Dialga/Palkia scaling and Arceus scaling above them as well as causing multiple dimensions to shake.
And that's how (I think) DB will scale Pokémon on future episodes.
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More important question: Can Android 17 even hack?
Meanwhile, how many fictional cyborgs are notable of hacking into computers?
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Blame Marvel and DC. They're the ones that got that shit semi-popular.
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Marvel and (Espesially) DC are the root of all problems in versus debating. Change my mind.
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I literally got done arguing over with morons using shit like 1-A and shit
Literally i said Kratos was Universal-Low Multiversal and those chumps wanna jump on me for not accepting him to be outerversal and shit
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Outerversal Kratos? I struggle accepting him as PLANET level, let alone universal. I thought the latter was wank. I stand corrected. Outerversal Kratos is some of the worst wank I've heard in a while. What were they using to argue that shit?
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