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Outerversal Kratos? I struggle accepting him as PLANET level, let alone universal. I thought the latter was wank. I stand corrected. Outerversal Kratos is some of the worst wank I've heard in a while. What were they using to argue that shit?
That meme picture?
That Kratos that can slay Featherine (but still loses to Spawn)?


Blame Marvel and DC. They're the ones that got that shit semi-popular.
Wait. Ichiban Ushiro no Dai Maou also has dimension tiering. Arguably Tengen Toppa has dimension tiering.
But you could say Marvel and DC make the concept of dimensional tiering easily understandable even to normies.
 
These ******* idiots are really using Cory as their evidence? The same guy who flip-flops on how the cosmology is structured, and once stated that they all exist on one bloody PLANET? Jesus Christ, I thought they were gonna pull some BS with the world tree, but that's ten times worse.
The world tree as well
Problem is no one scales to it all we know that Thor just splintered it but not the whole thing
 
Marvel and (Espesially) DC are the root of all problems in versus debating. Change my mind.
"It was me, Smashor. I convinced the writers at Marvel and DC to create so many absurd feats for their characters, thus causing versus debates to become needlessly complicated, all because you use me as a literal punching bag."
 
"It was me, Smashor. I convinced the writers at Marvel and DC to create so many absurd feats for their characters, thus causing versus debates to become needlessly complicated, all because you use me as a literal punching bag."
And what do you think that's gonna get you?!

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Also wtf I just noticed why is Zoom only 5-A on here?

Goku Black actually stomps? 👀
Well this is VSBW, where people downplay Marvel and DC. (And characters are still very strong - just incomparable to many other forgotten and/or niche verses)
 
Cyborg's not even consistently Herald Tier speed versus 17's multipliers means he probably won't be able to get that off. IIRC 17 isn't a conventional machine, so hacking won't really work (Espesially since it's not something Cyborg would lead with, since it's not obvious that 17 is part machine)
I’m pretty sure Cyborg has built-in sensors that’d let him instantly notice. Depending on how his Technopathy works it could be a one-sided MU.
 
I mean it looks really good but, why are they fighting exactly? Black’s attack didn’t even seem to hit Thawne, only the civilians around him. You could almost misinterpret that as him acting heroic, attacking the guy killing random civilians. Or is he just such a prick that he’d attack Black despite Black not doing anything to him?
You can't really say that he's acting heroic, because literally in the next scene he uses one of the random civilians as a meat shield literally for no reason, he could've just phaze through ki blasts, but he chose to act like a massive dick
 
You can't really say that he's acting heroic, because literally in the next scene he uses one of the random civilians as a meat shield literally for no reason, he could've just phaze through ki blasts, but he chose to act like a massive dick
I expected nothing less from him
 
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