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DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (2024–2025) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

Peter_Quicksilver_Maximoff said:
Predicting an Eggman win (knock on wood), here is the strength listing so far this season: 1. Joker, 2. Eggman, and 3. Omni-Man (😒)
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I appreciate your optimism. But when one of the head researchers of Death Battle argued months ago that Bowser beats Eggman? You're essentially fighting an uphill battle from there.

Still, I can potentially see a Eggman W through hax and comparable stats. But the general consensus is that Bowser's going to take the W here, it's just meant to be.
 
The_Unknown_Warrior1 said:
I appreciate your optimism. But when one of the head researchers of Death Battle argued months ago that Bowser beats Eggman? You're essentially fighting an uphill battle from there.

Still, I can potentially see a Eggman W through hax and comparable stats. But the general consensus is that Bowser's going to take the W here, it's just meant to be.
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The only way Eggman will win is if this ends up like Gioker. Where someone else wins despite researcher comments.
 
ShrekAnakin said:
The only way Eggman will win is if this ends up like Gioker. Where someone else wins despite researcher comments.
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I mean, I guess I can acknowledge that Ultraguy's arguments were his own take in the Cast and that having multiple other researchers might lead to a potential Eggman W. But I'm not going to hold my breath on that, I just can't see Eggman winning when you have one of the head researchers arguing that Bowser wins.
 
Bigdongus said:
A lot of it feels like just shoving two things that are popular at the time together. Remember when zoomers discovered Blood Miridian and just became obsessed with Judge Holden? DBM was flooded by Judge Holden matchups. Almost entirely by kids who haven’t even read blood miridian
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It's nothing new folks love to push for characters/franchises they never consume before
Look at Kamen Rider as an example
 
Tipper17 said:
Eggmans not winning
Just hope he's done justice,given proper stats and his loss can be reasonably explained
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Eggman fighting against the community consensus being Bowser, the researchers standing on Bowser's side, Bowser being a haxlord, the Time Eater's downgrade attempts just to lose to some Sun Disk-esque reasoning.
 
Bigdongus said:
A lot of it feels like just shoving two things that are popular at the time together. Remember when zoomers discovered Blood Miridian and just became obsessed with Judge Holden? DBM was flooded by Judge Holden matchups. Almost entirely by kids who haven’t even read blood miridian
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We zoomers don't read, only see.
 
The_Unknown_Warrior1 said:
I appreciate your optimism. But when one of the head researchers of Death Battle argued months ago that Bowser beats Eggman? You're essentially fighting an uphill battle from there.

Still, I can potentially see a Eggman W through hax and comparable stats. But the general consensus is that Bowser's going to take the W here, it's just meant to be.
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It's not a given that Bowser wins because there are several researchers, and he or she must persuade Ben and Chad that character A is superior than character B. And we all thought Omni-Man would get stomped to the moon and back and look what happened there?
 
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Tipper17 said:
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I really, really, really want to see Q vs Sheogorath.

Bluey & Bingo vs Calvin & Hobbes: I think they're sort of right. IDK if Bluey & Bingo have any actual feats. Probably good ones in imagination, which makes it thematic. Calvin & Hobbes are at least Tier 9 without Imagination, though, IIRC.
That said, Calvin & Hobbes are a bit more mature than they give 'em credit for. Both are all-ages, & Bluey is made more kiddish, but C&H feels made for older audiences, with its political & philosophical sides showing often. It's also a little grittier with its fantasies of dinosaurs, grotesque aliens, robots, etc. Leans more into sci-fi, I think. Surprising they call it "wrong demographic". Maybe we need another DB-like show/channel to do what they can't?

Hooty vs Zoidberg would be funny. I'm not sure how much Hooty has, though.

For Sonic Forces Rookie vs Lego Supervillains Rookie: What do they mean can't use individual OCs?
DB, bruh. Just make your own OC & use footage of that when needed. What's the problem?

They had better not be thinking Bakugo stomps Squidward.
 
Bowser Jr: Can use the paint he used in Super Mario Sunshine to inflict effects such as Matter and Disease manipulation

Kamek: Can use his transmuation to make Eggman's army useless and has magic powerful enough to create storms and nulify the enemies powers

King Bob-Omb:
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I just realized Death Battle has opened their revival with potentially 3 controversial episodes in a row lol. Bardock vs Omni-Man shouldn’t have been controversial but we all saw what happened there, Joker vs Giorno is a case of whose BS abilities you believe more, and Bowser vs Eggman has been such a debateable match that people will be arguing about it no matter who wins.
 
Accelerated_Evolution said:
Bowser Jr: Can use the paint he used in Super Mario Sunshine to inflict effects such as Matter and Disease manipulation

Kamek: Can use his transmuation to make Eggman's army useless and has magic powerful enough to create storms and nulify the enemies powers

King Bob-Omb:
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Honestly, Bob-ombs are even funnier, considering Paper Mario.

Every Bob-omb variant, including the unaffiliated Bulky Bob-ombs, & Bob-ulks, when hit with ANYTHING Fire, Electricity & Explosions, will themselves, explode.

A curious example is how Bombette in PM64 will get "injured" like other partners if she takes damage (They're normally not directly attackable in PM64.), but she explodes when doing so, at least in some circumstances, IIRC. I forget if that's the case for like, Body Slamming a forward-speared Spear Guy or just Body Slamming a Lava Bubble or such.

But unlike other Bob-ombs (Some friendlies who escaped Koopa Village who could do explosions & survive just fine for celebrations.), other Bob-ombs will straight up die/disappear entirely when they explode.

Where this gets silly is Duplighosts:

If a Duplighost turns into a copy of Bombette & Watt uses Mega Shock, a non-damaging, non-contact move that can MAYBE inflict Paralysis, likely even if you don't do the Action Command, all the Bombette-copy-Duplighosts WILL explode.

& again, they explode to ANYTHING Fire, Electric or Explosive.

So Bombette can survive exploding, but copies of her CAN'T. Are PM64 Duplighosts just really bad, lol?
Admiral Bobbery (& Doopliss, when copying him.) doesn't have this vulnerability strangely.

I can't remember if regular Bob-ombs exploding can cause a chain reaction of others exploding.

It's even sillier with Bulky Bob-ombs/Bob-ulks, which spend like 3 or 4 turns applying buffs to themselves (& 1 just lighting their fuse & starting to run around in a panic.), but who's explosions are AoE enough to affect the whole battlefield.
They'll do this waste of time no matter what, even if they have the burn status, which will deal 1 Fire damage to the Bulky Bob-omb/Bob-ulk at the end of its turn, causing it to explode early.
Which they means set each other off. Luckily, their base attack is 2, but still.

It means if you decide to like, First Strike a Bob-ulk with Bobbery's Field Move, it'll detonate the first Bulky Bob-omb or Bob-ulk... which will make all the others explode, too, all before even the first turn has started, let alone finished!
Again, only 2 base attack, but since they're often in groups of 3 or 4. (Plus, I think Bob-ulks are stronger.) Enjoy the fireworks! (& pain.)

Notably, that reminds me of a fodder feat: Bulky Bob-ombs in the audience can explode (Which has a live seat count & can hold up to 200.), which, IIRC "blows away" all the other audience members, which can include Shy Guys, Toads, Luigi, Punis, Dull Bones, Pirhana Plant, etc.
With the AoE & mass of the audience members sent flying it might be good. Potentially higher if they're destroyed.
 
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Imaginym said:
Honestly, Bob-ombs are even funnier, considering Paper Mario.

Every Bob-omb variant, including the unaffiliated Bulky Bob-ombs, & Bob-ulks, when hit with ANYTHING Fire, Electricity & Explosions, will themselves, explode.

A curious example is how Bombette in PM64 will get "injured" like other partners if she takes damage (They're normally not directly attackable in PM64.), but she explodes when doing so, at least in some circumstances, IIRC. I forget if that's the case for like, Body Slamming a forward-speared Spear Guy or just Body Slamming a Lava Bubble or such.

But unlike other Bob-ombs (Some friendlies who escaped Koopa Village who could do explosions & survive just fine for celebration.), other Bob-ombs will straight up die/disappear entirely when they explode.

Where this gets silly is Duplighosts:

If a Duplighost turns into a copy of Bombette & Watt uses Mega Shock, a non-damaging, non-contact move that can MAYBE inflict Paralysis, likely even if you don't do the Action Command, all the Bombette-copy-Duplighosts WILL explode.

& again, they explode to ANYTHING Fire, Electric or Explosive.

So Bombette can survive exploding, but copies of her CAN'T. Are PM64 Duplighosts just really bad, lol?
Admiral Bobbery (& Doopliss, when copying him.) doesn't have this vulnerability strangely.

I can't remember if regular Bob-ombs exploding can cause a chain reaction of others exploding.

It's even sillier with Bulky Bob-ombs/Bob-ulks, which spend like 3 or 4 turns applying buffs to themselves (& 1 just lighting their fuse & starting to run around in a panic.), but who's explosions are AoE enough to affect the whole battlefield.
They'll do this waste of time no matter what, even if they have the burn status, which will deal 1 Fire damage to the Bulky Bob-omb/Bob-ulk at the end of its turn, causing it to explode early.
Which they means set each other off. Luckily, their base attack is 2, but still.

It means if you decide to like, First Strike a Bob-ulk with Bobbery's Field Move, it'll detonate the first Bulky Bob-omb or Bob-ulk... which will make all the others explode, too, all before even the first turn has finished!
Again, only 2 base attack, but since they're often in groups of 3 or 4. (Plus, I think Bob-ulks are stronger.) Enjoy the fireworks! (& pain.)

Notably, that reminds me of a fodder feat: Bulky Bob-ombs in the audience can explode (Which has a live seat count & can hold up to 200.), which, IIRC "blows away" all the other audience members, which can include Shy Guys, Toads, Luigi, Punis, Dull Bones, Pirhana Plant, etc.
With the AoE & mass of the audience members sent flying it might be good. Potentially higher if they're destroyed.
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Anyway, point is, the moment anyone does any AoE Fire, Electricity or Explosion move, every Bob-omb & variant is probably gonna blow up, lol.

I'd be surprised if this wasn't what takes out a large portion of at least one, if not both sides.
 
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