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DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (2024–2025) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

Since its sorta relevant, I did hear that Alduin might not have been at full power to scale Dragonborn fully. Or maybe thats some nitpick on lore someone had.
 
I feel like DB would say they're both universal and equal in strength, Asura is faster, but Kratos is more tactical, has better haxes, and has more control of his anger.
Well Asura not being in control of his anger has never really been a problem in AW (or, only in the middle of the game I guess when Olga fired down on innocents). In fact it's what allows him to go from being fodder against Chakravartin to bullying his bitch ass.
 
Jack vs Kuma (Tekken vs One Piece): They like the matchup. They think the connections are now a bit rougher given Kuma had his backstory revealed. As for who wins, they think Jack should take the edge because of Tekken 8.

How powerful is one piece Kuma and what haxes he got?
His power can vary a fair bit but his best feat would put him at moon level by our standards, his main hax is his Paw Paw fruit which allows him to push anything he touches. This can be used to reflect and redirect attacks, BFR opponents, pseudo-teleport himself, create air blasts as attacks, with Kuma even being able to do more complex things like pushing all of the pain out of a target and then pushing it into another.

He also has his cyborg body, which gives him a few things like pain immunity, completely steel body, and most impressively his lasers which are exact copies of Kizaru's Glint Glint Fruit which create massive explosions and emit 28000ºC heat by our standards

Edit: OH YEAH, he also has armament haki which can negate A BUNCH of stuff and observation haki which gives him extra precognitive and sensory abilities
 
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His power can vary a fair bit but his best feat would put him at moon level by our standards
His profile puts him at island level only and an unknown rating, unless its outdated
his main hax is his Paw Paw fruit which allows him to push anything he touches. This can be used to reflect and redirect attacks
So attack reflection?
BFR opponents, pseudo-teleport himself, create air blasts as attacks, with Kuma even being able to do more complex things like pushing all of the pain out of a target and then pushing it into another.
First two seem good, air one is eh, the pain thing is irrelevant to a robot
He also has his cyborg body, which gives him a few things like pain immunity, completely steel body, and most impressively his lasers which are exact copies of Kizaru's Glint Glint Fruit which create massive explosions and emit 28000ºC heat by our standards
How hot is re-entry, when meteors basically catch fire
Edit: OH YEAH, he also has armament haki which can negate A BUNCH of stuff and observation haki which gives him extra precognitive and sensory abilities
Like?
 
His profile puts him at island level only and an unknown rating, unless its outdated
Heavily outdated, most recent completed arc has him absolutely decking a top tier in the face who's so durable even G5 Luffy struggles

So attack reflection?
Part of it, yeah.

First two seem good, air one is eh, the pain thing is irrelevant to a robot
Should be noted, the air blasts explode, can act as shockwaves, can absolutely be spammed, and have a statement for being lightspeed (we don't use that)

How hot is re-entry, when meteors basically catch fire
up to 7,000°F to my knowledge

In terms of resistances, armament haki can resist....... well basically any ability in One Piece! It's the effectively the devil fruit counter due to how hax resistant it is. Kuma has shown to be skilled enough on a Intermediate Level by our standards.

We don't know his skill in observation haki, however even at the most basic levels it would allow him to sense life energy, read minds, predict future actions, amplify reactions, and enhance the senses with better awareness, hearing, and vision for kilometers in distance with them seeing auras, souls, through walls, emotions, all in a omnidirectional manner
 
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Heavily outdated, most recent completed arc has him absolutely decking a top tier in the face who's so durable even G5 Luffy struggles
Jack 8 should still scale above him, given he is a high tier and needed two other high tiers to put him down, let alone Jack 7 was already a high tier himself
Part of it, yeah.
Can he do the same to non physical stuff? Cuz "reflects anything" is nlf
Should be noted, the air blasts explode, can act as shockwaves, can be absolutely be spammed, and have a statement for being lightspeed (we don't use that)
could prove useful then
up to 7,000°F to my knowledge
ok so it was higher, could be problematic
In terms of resistances, armament haki can resist....... well basically any ability in One Piece! It's the effectively the devil fruit counter due to how hax resistant it is. Kuma has shown to be skilled enough on a Intermediate Level by our standards.
sounds nlf a bit
We don't know his skill in observation haki, however even at the most basic levels it would allow him to sense life energy, read minds, predict future actions, amplify reactions, and enhance the senses with better awareness, hearing, and vision for kilometers in distance with them seeing auras, souls, through walls, emotions, all in a omnidirectional manner
Aha
 
The real reason they rejected it.

Although I know nothing about Slay the Princess, so can I ask for an elaboration if that's alright?
Princess is change itself. She's probably getting upgraded to 1-A in the future too. She's also whatever she's perceived to be if not fully awaken, tho sense it's deathbattle she'd eventually fully awaken
 
Undertale character unironically losses.

But also I kinda see the connection
Princess is change itself. She's probably getting upgraded to 1-A in the future too. She's also whatever she's perceived to be if not fully awaken, tho sense it's deathbattle she'd eventually fully awaken
Yeah the Princess would fit in quite well in SCP tbh (theme wise). An initially simple, unassuming premise but eventually gets lovecraftian crazy at the end with a side of madness.
 
Jack 8 should still scale above him, given he is a high tier and needed two other high tiers to put him down, let alone Jack 7 was already a high tier himself
How is he a higher tier? Even with current profiles Kuma is out scaling him and with updated stuff I don't think Tekken has anything on the moon level stuff, and even with multi-conti stuff One Piece from what I can tell is still vastly above it

Can he do the same to non physical stuff? Cuz "reflects anything" is nlf
I mean anything, people, attacks, objects, ghosts, abstract concepts like pain/fatigue/illness, even memories! More intangible or unusual things like air or abstract concepts are put into bubbles

sounds nlf a bit
Not really, it doesn't resist everything in fiction but in One Piece it's outright considered the god-tier ability. The King of Pirates, Gol Roger, conquered the seas with nothing but his haki and it's shown time and time again that it can resist devil fruits. Some fruits require more force and energy to resist based on context, EX: Blocking magma with comparable heat to the light attacks? Not much of an issue! Reverting a biological virus that swaps your gender? Gonna take some effort...

But regardless, it's an absurdly long list of resistances and the wiki also considered Haki an ability with multiple layers
 
How is he a higher tier? Even with current profiles Kuma is out scaling him and with updated stuff I don't think Tekken has anything on the moon level stuff, and even with multi-conti stuff One Piece from what I can tell is still vastly above it
King struggled with a Jack 7, a character that fought the likes of Paul, Jin and Steve, latter matching Hwoarang, Jin rival and one of the few characters roughly equal to him

Jack 8 is well above that generation, also profiles are outdated in stats and scaling in regards to many of the cast, as for the "I dont think Tekken has anything on the moon level stuff" is outright dumb especially with Tekken 8, they have tier 5 lore and Devil Jin feat unlike the site claims has at minimum a moon level feat in his ending, let alone higher stuff thats gonna take a going over, so no
I mean anything, people, attacks, objects, ghosts, abstract concepts like pain/fatigue/illness, even memories! More intangible or unusual things like air or abstract concepts are put into bubbles
Ok, i seriously doubt they actually consider these abstract or concepts, let alone anyone excepts this
Not really, it doesn't resist everything in fiction but in One Piece it's outright considered the god-tier ability. The King of Pirates, Gol Roger, conquered the seas with nothing but his haki and it's shown time and time again that it can resist devil fruits. Some fruits require more force and energy to resist based on context, EX: Blocking magma with comparable heat to the light attacks? Not much of an issue! Reverting a biological virus that swaps your gender? Gonna take some effort...
Then you know any ability not in one piece will not be resisted so we are clear on that
 
"I dont think Tekken has anything on the moon level stuff" is outright dumb especially with Tekken 8, they have tier 5 lore and Devil Jin feat unlike the site claims has at minimum a moon level feat in his ending, let alone higher stuff thats gonna take a going over, so no
Hey mate, I don't know Tekken like that. Ain't saying anything on your end is stupid just because you aren't aware of everything in One Piece

Ok, i seriously doubt they actually consider these abstract or concepts, let alone anyone excepts this
Why wouldn't it? Things like pain, illness, fatigue, or memories aren't physical things that exist (not in the way Kuma repels them), he doesn't heal people in order to remove pain and fatigue he just literally pushes it out of them into a bubble which stores it. Hell we even have thoughts listed as an abstract type of existence since those aren't physical things.

I'm not saying he's going to be clashing with Arceus or something lol

Then you know any ability not in one piece will not be resisted so we are clear on that
Ok............ and? There are over 100 different paramecias and logias, that's still a very long list with many of them having multiple ability types that work as hax
 
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