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Eeeeeerm, Eggbros?
As much as I love Ian Flynn as a writer, he REALLY has bad takes regarding the internal scaling of Sonic. Besides thinking that Archie Sonic would lose to Kid Goku and Archie Super Silver getting dunked on by Base Trunks, he also believes that Sonic isn’t lightspeed and that only Super Forms are consistently planet-level. He takes a lot from shonen writing but hates the large powerscaling dick measuring contests people constantly ask him about.
lmao what
They celebrated SCP's deletion?
Check this:
Isn't Kirkman more of a troll though? From what I've heard at least, I don't keep up with that stuff.
Yeah, a lot of SCP writers have a distaste for powerscaling because they see it as boiling down their emotional horror stories/weird fiction that they pour in their emotions and soul into cheap action figures and a constant flood of “can they beat Goku” type of questions. A lot of writers in the SCP Wiki server shared their experience of this feeling, especially one who I forgot the name of who created a reality warping character meant to explore grief, mortality, and the nature of what it means to love inspired by the tragic death of the writer’s father only for most of the guy’s DMs to be flooded with powerscaling questions and “what is his hax?” and “can he beat Goku?”
Yeah, the powerscaling community unfortunately has those sort of people. Doesn't VSBW explicitly forbid contacting the author over powerscaling quetsions?
Honestly? Valid, I totally get that. Powerscaling and VS MUs can be fun, but sometimes people forget that knowing who can punch harder isn't the end goal of fiction.
TL;DR: Goku Solos your favorite Verse
It is a somewhat... shallow way of engaging with fiction, but that's kind of the point. It's simple, easy-going fun. It might be that a lot of the SCP writers
Then you have the Instant Death Author who takes the opposite approach. Speaking of which, how is that verse still on this site? Doesn't that author just write the story for powerscaling.
Yeah, I agree with you. Powerscaling should be left to the fans.
Uggh. How many times do we have to learn this lesson? There is no point making a fictional character powerful for the sake of being powerful. You're more likely to just break suspension of disbelief that way. Power needs to serve a purpose, establishing scope, stakes, enabling cool visuals, creating a specific feel, etc., etc. I can make a totally busted character in just a few sentences, but it doesn't mean anyone will care.
Yup:
I think he already made statements like this in a serious and non-serious way, i remember he seriously saying in a youtube video that Invincible could beat Hulk because "he can fly"
It's quite sad how many great (or generally considered good) stories were corrupted by powerscaling bullshit (Lucifer, Umineko, The Unwritten and etc.).
The guy who created SCP-682 (I think it was this one) said on his twitter, when he made a Q&A about 682, that most of the questions were of people asking about VSDebating stuff.
I mean, the whole point of that stupid thing is that nothing can kill it because it's so adaptable. Anyone with a modicum of common sense could see where that would lead a mile away. Heck, just look at Doomsday if you want the precedent.
There was quite some debate about it in The Death of SCP thread, but it was decided to left this to another thread due to being considered some type of derailing
Not every author is aware of the popularity of VSDebating stuff, it is very probable that the author of the SCP also originally wasn't
Yeah, but a good author should be aware of human nature, and a speculative fiction author would probably be aware of at least the tendencies of nerdy thinking, particularly how nerds tend to a) make comparisons between things from different fictional works and b) become very protective of "their" characters and properties. Combining that with something as inherently provocative and vague as "thing that adapts to anything" should've at least given some anticipation of the inevitable result.
This is like saying that every "good author" that creates a character who is an anthropomorfic animal knows that this character will "inevitably" have furry r34 of it
Ki exists in marvel, you think martial artists there dont have it?
No because this is bullshit, lol. Dude is even stalking the Sonic general threads because he directly quoted what I said, lol. Dude is a notorious Sonic downplayer, Bowser wanker who has Sonic stats in this wiki living rent free in his head. So don't take what he says seriously. Time Eater destroys "dimensional energy" with his moves, so he wouldn't be "universal level overtime with hax". This is just downplayer agenda disguised as something important.
Powerscaling really is subjective because of of my friends thinks Ian buffed the characters lol.
Blame the site standards for that one tbf. Not our fault that Sonic fits whatever new thing this site makes up.
Oh I 100% blame the sites bizarre standards lmao, Sonic fitting it and you guys making use of it is A-OK. Same deal with characters with infinite speed, I don't think 90% of the peeps who have that rating deserve it but hey site standards allow the infinite speed titans and olympians from God of War to take 100 years to finish a war.
Where did you get that number from? There are only like 2 or 3 if I'm not forgetting one lol. one is where Iizuka contradictedd himself in the same sentence, and another is something the translator made up (which is fine since it's on an official Sega channel)but in cases like this, the game itself should take priority, since it's written and superrvised by the creators and reflects their intent. Plus the whole "one timeline" idea has always been there, even in the original dialogue of both languages. Another key point is the kanji used. In Japanese, there's a word "滅茶苦茶" (mechakucha), which doesn't exactly mean "destroy" in the literal sense(Well, maybe it can idk, Japanese is a heavily context dependent language) machine or incomplete translations might show it as "destroy," but a more accurate translation is "mess with" or "bring chaos." (It implies disorder or chaos, which I guess it's the same one used in the interview, but can't affirm it so it's just theorizing) and this is actually the same kanji used in the official SxSG website's description of Time Eater (and in the japanese video of tailstube), which lines up with what Tails says about "messing with all of space-time" Spoilers ahead, Both parts of the game and website focus on time anomalies rather than the complete destruction of time.
From the references in the new Time Eater page that we have a CRT on. Ignoring the rest because it's honestly just cope on how the WoG doesn't actually mean what it was translated from but instead our headcanon (This is what Sonic scalers have to deal with, people wanting their headcanons to be above official sources)
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What you're saying is right, but the person who I was talking about seems to weirdly take what we say as some sort of WoG, making either several posts to spite on us (the above Reddit post) or even using us as some sort of WoG but ONLY when we want to downgrade something (he used us revealing we MIGHT downgrade infinite speed as some counter-argument for someone who believed in it, which is weird because why should our plans even matter to someone off-site?).
