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DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (2024–2025) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

Well Asura probably has some crazy melting feats or something through his energy or whatever
I'm not sure as to what temperature Asura's body can reach but the frozen lightning is quite ridiculous. It's not a lightning shaped chunk of ice instead there's actual lightning from Thor's hammer encased within it which does not seem to have disappeared. Even natural lightning has a temperature of 30,000 K (this is the reason we can see the "bolt" it's just really hot air) so imagine that being encased in ice for a century without it even getting close to melting.
 
Ah, I see. I took a peek at the G1 blog and holy shit, Kratos has such a massive strength advantage over Asura.

So I can see what you mean: The gap in power, alongside Kratos' own ability to grow, just makes the possibility of Asura catching up incredibly unlikely.
Those G1 stats are vomit inducing even tho I believe Kratos has better AP. Surtur calc makes my eyes bleed

Regardless, point still stands for the most part. Asura needs a massive speed advantage for his AD to have enough time to surpass Kratos and avoid his haxes, but Kratos' own AD could probably buy him enough time to throw some random bullshit hax at Asura and kill him

As I said, stars have to align for Asura here because I don't think you can get Asura that much higher in speed
 
Ah, I see. I took a peek at the G1 blog and holy shit, Kratos has such a massive strength advantage over Asura.

So I can see what you mean: The gap in power, alongside Kratos' own ability to grow, just makes the possibility of Asura catching up incredibly unlikely.
That assumes DB will use a similar calc, in the Kratos preview they gave him 2.4 quadrillion FTL due to uni shockwaves while in the old G1Blog, they put the same feat at 733 quadrillion to 1.4 quintillion FTL. So he may be a lot lower.
 
I’m just saying a lot of you guys were saying Joker would lose to Giorno. I was one of the few who believed and I’ll put as much faith in Asura as I did Joker. He will clutch up, just you watch.
Tbf Death Battle could have bought into Joker not having counters to GER even if physically wasnt contending
 
Those G1 stats are vomit inducing even tho I believe Kratos has better AP. Surtur calc makes my eyes bleed

Regardless, point still stands for the most part. Asura needs a massive speed advantage for his AD to have enough time to surpass Kratos and avoid his haxes, but Kratos' own AD could probably buy him enough time to throw some random bullshit hax at Asura and kill him

As I said, stars have to align for Asura here because I don't think you can get Asura that much higher in speed
I may be a giant bratwurst eater for Asura, but we saw last time what an insane speed advantage couldn't do....
 
I'm not sure as to what temperature Asura's body can reach but the frozen lightning is quite ridiculous. It's not a lightning shaped chunk of ice instead there's actual lightning from Thor's hammer encased within it which does not seem to have disappeared. Even natural lightning has a temperature of 30,000 K (this is the reason we can see the "bolt" it's just really hot air) so imagine that being encased in ice for a century without it even getting close to melting.
Something out of whatever the hell this is could maybe be gotten tbh
 
That assumes DB will use a similar calc, in the Kratos preview they gave him 2.4 quadrillion FTL due to uni shockwaves while in the old G1Blog, they put the same feat at 733 quadrillion to 1.4 quintillion FTL. So he may be a lot lower.
True, but we'll have to see where DB scales Asura in speed when that time comes.

And to be fair, if you want to go the extra mile: you could scale Kratos to Thor's shockwaves, which encompassed all of Yggdrasil.
 
So, what’s the consensus here? I want Asura to win, but… Oof, is there any feasible way? Like, even theoretically?
 
So, what’s the consensus here? I want Asura to win, but… Oof, is there any feasible way? Like, even theoretically?
Kratos has it. Better AP, arsenal, hax. He has tertiary factors like skill but that rarely matters.

Asura has range, potent AD, endurance, mobility, experience, a few resistances to a few hax, but nothing as huge as Kratos' advantages.

Speed is up in the air, and depending which way it goes and how far is sort of what determines whether this is a easy Kratos W or he has to work for it.

Asura W is about as realistic as Omni-Man accurately winning against Bardock. Except Asura is sun disk-less
 
What I'm hoping for more than anything is for this to be as good as BowsEgg.

A tall order I know, but please be generational
9 whole minutes of fight? You can put a whole story into it, it's like GvS1 and Snake vs Sam
Hoping it won't stuff won't be cut because it's been a decade since we had a fight that had 9min of animated content since Goku vs Superman 1 ya gotta pull out all the stop here let it happened in the episode or at worst have a unreleased cut of it later for everyone
 
What I'm hoping for more than anything is for this to be as good as BowsEgg.

A tall order I know, but please be generational
This could also be DevilArtemis' redemption fight after the release of OmniDock. And I don't mean any disrespect towards DA, he's a genuinely great animator, but OmniDock was just ass all around.
 
Well it was written this way, he animated it like that as per the sketches had it
It's less to do with the writing, though that certainly didn't help, but more with the animation to be honest. It just didn't hit as hard as other fights he's done like Popeye vs Saitama and Frieza vs Megatron.

Of course you could say that story boards were a part of that as well, but still, something about Omni Man vs Bardock felt so weird.
 
The only way I see Asura winning is that DB concludes that Kratos can't permanently kill Asura and eventually Asura will outgrow Kratos and kill him.
 
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