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I mean Death Battle treats multiversal as still 3D AP, so AD can reasonably still be a factor even if it's not winning Asura the episode
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DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)
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No, people say it's so high because Asura goes from getting quite literally one tapped (as in Chakravartin uses only one finger and blasts Asura from his strongest to his absolute weakest), to having Chakravartin self destruct by just hitting him without flinching, in just the span of like, what, 3 minutes? Asura could already be argued to having already gotten to Universal by this point from how he shattered Naraka with a single punch.
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Frankly as far as I'm considered it's the only advantage he has. If it can't win him the day alone he looses
and unironically his power to fly Kratos only jumps good
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Which is impressive, but Kratos did something very similar in God of War 2. Dude went from being a powerless mortal after his godly power was absorbed by the Blade of Olympus to defeating the Sisters of Fate and squaring up to Zeus by the end of the game, so I just don't see how that gives Asura a leg up when Kratos has the same ability to grow
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Then Kratos wins easy
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Time frame + unquantifiability was what the reddit post had to say about that iirc.
I forgot which subreddit I even saw it on lol
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Ah, I see. I took a peek at the G1 blog and holy shit, Kratos has such a massive strength advantage over Asura.
So I can see what you mean: The gap in power, alongside Kratos' own ability to grow, just makes the possibility of Asura catching up incredibly unlikely.
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Is this matchup predicated completely on how much high up your willing to let AD go then was shown in the orignal media?
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I'm not sure as to what temperature Asura's body can reach but the frozen lightning is quite ridiculous. It's not a lightning shaped chunk of ice instead there's actual lightning from Thor's hammer encased within it which does not seem to have disappeared. Even natural lightning has a temperature of 30,000 K (this is the reason we can see the "bolt" it's just really hot air) so imagine that being encased in ice for a century without it even getting close to melting.
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Those G1 stats are vomit inducing even tho I believe Kratos has better AP. Surtur calc makes my eyes bleed
Regardless, point still stands for the most part. Asura needs a massive speed advantage for his AD to have enough time to surpass Kratos and avoid his haxes, but Kratos' own AD could probably buy him enough time to throw some random bullshit hax at Asura and kill him
As I said, stars have to align for Asura here because I don't think you can get Asura that much higher in speed
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That assumes DB will use a similar calc, in the Kratos preview they gave him 2.4 quadrillion FTL due to uni shockwaves while in the old G1Blog, they put the same feat at 733 quadrillion to 1.4 quintillion FTL. So he may be a lot lower.
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Asura is actually cooked dang
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Tbf Death Battle could have bought into Joker not having counters to GER even if physically wasnt contending
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I may be a giant bratwurst eater for Asura, but we saw last time what an insane speed advantage couldn't do....
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Asura needs to file a claim with the its over department
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After Kratos killed Zeus, he came as Fear Zeus who basically one shot Kratos. Then Kratos gained power of Hope and basically stomped Fear Zeus. So uhh kinda feels like Kraros might have better strength growth in a way, no?
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If they do 9 minutes i feel like they wanna do many references and use more of Kratos arsenal
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Nah, he still has this in the bag! It's just that making fun of OmniDock is always funny.
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Lol no.
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True, but we'll have to see where DB scales Asura in speed when that time comes.
And to be fair, if you want to go the extra mile: you could scale Kratos to Thor's shockwaves, which encompassed all of Yggdrasil.
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By believing
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Kratos has it. Better AP, arsenal, hax. He has tertiary factors like skill but that rarely matters.
Asura has range, potent AD, endurance, mobility, experience, a few resistances to a few hax, but nothing as huge as Kratos' advantages.
Speed is up in the air, and depending which way it goes and how far is sort of what determines whether this is a easy Kratos W or he has to work for it.
Asura W is about as realistic as Omni-Man accurately winning against Bardock. Except Asura is sun disk-less
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I fw both Kratos and Asura, I like Asura more because his game is stupid badass, but not to the point I'm bummed he's losing.
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What I'm hoping for more than anything is for this to be as good as BowsEgg.
A tall order I know, but please be generational
A tall order I know, but please be generational
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9 whole minutes of fight? You can put a whole story into it, it's like GvS1 and Snake vs Sam
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Hoping it won't stuff won't be cut because it's been a decade since we had a fight that had 9min of animated content since Goku vs Superman 1 ya gotta pull out all the stop here let it happened in the episode or at worst have a unreleased cut of it later for everyone
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They use street fighter crossover when it has no reason to, plus say raging demon is soup destruction, when its actually death manipulation actually lol
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I hope it's sad.
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This could also be DevilArtemis' redemption fight after the release of OmniDock. And I don't mean any disrespect towards DA, he's a genuinely great animator, but OmniDock was just ass all around.
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Well it was written this way, he animated it like that as per the sketches had it
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Which again brings up my point about bland cookie cutter story boards. I genuinely think I'm onto something with that.
No ill will to the story board artist but the fight choreography can be just so bland and short even if the set pieces are cool.
No ill will to the story board artist but the fight choreography can be just so bland and short even if the set pieces are cool.
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Pretty much it's not DA fault if the storyboard ain't hitting
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It's less to do with the writing, though that certainly didn't help, but more with the animation to be honest. It just didn't hit as hard as other fights he's done like Popeye vs Saitama and Frieza vs Megatron.
Of course you could say that story boards were a part of that as well, but still, something about Omni Man vs Bardock felt so weird.
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