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DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (2024–2025) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

Does Asura actually have any arguments for resisting time stop? I thought he constantly gets affected by Chakravartins own time stop during the final boss fight.
 
Therewolf is on the track for the fight
he said this is his longest score for a Death Battle
"Yeah for sure. I think I have said it here before, but I have always wanted for DBs to longer (for some episodes at least). So I was extremely excited when I found out I was going to make my longest score for Death Battle. Devilartemis has gone above and beyond so I made it a point to do the same. The whole thing is absolutely insane."
 
I’m just saying a lot of you guys were saying Joker would lose to Giorno. I was one of the few who believed and I’ll put as much faith in Asura as I did Joker. He will clutch up, just you watch.
 
Ngl

I see a lot of copium from the Asursa crowd here. I get it feats man’s go brrrrr, but yall are giving him too much credit for his resistance to Kratos haxs and abilities. Like some of the arguments don’t really hold up to scrutiny.
I've seen arguements for resistance to like three haxes lol
 
Ngl

I see a lot of copium from the Asursa crowd here. I get it feats man’s go brrrrr, but yall are giving him too much credit for his resistance to Kratos haxs and abilities. Like some of the arguments don’t really hold up to scrutiny.
I'm not saying he resist all of Kratos hax at best he resist like 2-3 maybe 4 being real
 
Just read to get some context on his absorption resistance, but it required extreme amounts of rage and yet another "I will stop my daughter's tears" line so unless we have Kratos talking shit or harming Asura's daughter his rage shouldn't be that much which should affect how powerful his resists are.
 
He already survives deep space travel though?
Not even remotely equivalent. Deep space can't freeze you instantly because there's no real medium around you for heat transfer to occur so you'll lose very small amounts of heat due to radiation.

The axe on the other hand can produce ice so cold that it can keep actual lightning bolts frozen for over a century under constant exposure to sunlight.
 
Just read to get some context on his absorption resistance, but it required extreme amounts of rage and yet another "I will stop my daughter's tears" line so unless we have Kratos talking shit or harming Asura's daughter his rage shouldn't be that much which should affect how powerful his resists are.
Don't we take characters at their reasonable peak/maximum?

That rage boost isn't an external thing, it's all Asura's power, no external amp, so I don't understand this arguement.
 
That dosen't make sense to me, it implies he dies when petrified instead of his soul being trapped in his body. Which is almost surly what actually happens given Kratos breaks out of it without needing to revive
Uhhhh? I'm not sure what you're trying to say, but he doesn't die when petrified, but instead his body naturally does so when he does die, for some reason. And then he can come back from it. Unless im misreading this, which is likely since I only woke up just a couple of minutes ago.
Not even remotely equivalent. Deep space can't freeze you instantly because there's no real medium around you for heat transfer to occur so you'll lose very small amounts of heat due to radiation.

The axe on the other hand can produce ice so cold that it can keep actual lightning bolts frozen for over a century under constant exposure to sunlight.
Well Asura probably has some crazy melting feats or something through his energy or whatever
 
Don't we take characters at their reasonable peak/maximum?

That rage boost isn't an external thing, it's all Asura's power, no external amp, so I don't understand this arguement.
You're giving him power he can't logically have in the scenario presented.

This is like saying the Hulk should always be World Buster because the only difference is how mad he is and if an opponent would make him that mad shouldn't need to be a factor
 
You're giving him power he can't logically have in the scenario presented.

This is like saying the Hulk should always be World Buster because the only difference is how mad he is and if an opponent would make him that mad shouldn't need to be a factor
Except we've given Hulk World Buster twice lol

I feel like you have to split hairs to justify not giving Asura his own full arsenal when it's literally just him getting angry
 
And death battle acknowledged each time it would take some time for him to get mad and he could be put down before that. Hulk is an individual that will get made the longer he fights. Azure is an individual who is mad about a very specific thing. They are not the same
They never made a 'oh before World breaker' arguement in either episode. In the first episode all they said he would tire out and his anger would diminish, and in the second one it said he would get overwhelmed before catching up.

So we are just back to hair splitting
 
Honestly, is Asura's AD that much of a significant advantage for him? Kratos' got AD arguments as well, and from what I can tell it works just as fast.

Add onto Kratos scaling to the likes of Thor, who can affect the nine universe sized Yggdrasil, I don't think AD and growing in power is going to help out much when Kratos is already much stronger and grows in battle as well.
 
Honestly, is Asura's AD that much of a significant advantage for him? Kratos' got AD arguments as well, and from what I can tell it works just as fast.

Add onto Kratos scaling to the likes of Thor, who can affect the nine universe sized Yggdrasil, I don't think AD and growing in power is going to help out much when Kratos is already much stronger and grows in battle as well.
Apparently he grew from planet level to universesal.and that's why people say it's so high
 
Apparently he grew from planet level to universesal.and that's why people say it's so high
I feel like this leads to another conversation about how high AD is allowed to go. Presumably all AD has a limit can it really be expected to let him to grow with power beyond multiple universes?
 
Honestly, is Asura's AD that much of a significant advantage for him? Kratos' got AD arguments as well, and from what I can tell it works just as fast.

Add onto Kratos scaling to the likes of Thor, who can affect the nine universe sized Yggdrasil, I don't think AD and growing in power is going to help out much when Kratos is already much stronger and grows in battle as well.
I saw a reddit post that breaks it down

TLDR: is Asura's AD is objectively faster but given it used the G1 blog for stats, Kratos' inferior AD is just icing on the cake because it would never let Asura catch up to begin with

Asura's AD is blatantly faster, but if they have remotely similar speeds or AP Kratos' own AD can give him more than enough time to out hax Asura.

So it's a undeniable boon and Asura's biggest win con, but the stars have to align for it to do anything
 
I feel like this leads to another conversation about how high AD is allowed to go. Presumably all AD has a limit can it really be expected to let him to grow with power beyond multiple universes?
I mean Death Battle treats multiversal as still 3D AP, so AD can reasonably still be a factor even if it's not winning Asura the episode
 
Apparently he grew from planet level to universesal.and that's why people say it's so high
No, people say it's so high because Asura goes from getting quite literally one tapped (as in Chakravartin uses only one finger and blasts Asura from his strongest to his absolute weakest), to having Chakravartin self destruct by just hitting him without flinching, in just the span of like, what, 3 minutes? Asura could already be argued to having already gotten to Universal by this point from how he shattered Naraka with a single punch.
 
Apparently he grew from planet level to universesal.and that's why people say it's so high
Which is impressive, but Kratos did something very similar in God of War 2. Dude went from being a powerless mortal after his godly power was absorbed by the Blade of Olympus to defeating the Sisters of Fate and squaring up to Zeus by the end of the game, so I just don't see how that gives Asura a leg up when Kratos has the same ability to grow
 
Which is impressive, but Kratos did something very similar in God of War 2. Dude went from being a powerless mortal after his godly power was absorbed by the Blade of Olympus to defeating the Sisters of Fate and squaring up to Zeus by the end of the game, so I just don't see how that gives Asura a leg up when Kratos has the same ability to grow
Then Kratos wins easy
 
Which is impressive, but Kratos did something very similar in God of War 2. Dude went from being a powerless mortal after his godly power was absorbed by the Blade of Olympus to defeating the Sisters of Fate and squaring up to Zeus by the end of the game, so I just don't see how that gives Asura a leg up when Kratos has the same ability to grow
Time frame + unquantifiability was what the reddit post had to say about that iirc.

I forgot which subreddit I even saw it on lol
 
I saw a reddit post that breaks it down

TLDR: is Asura's AD is objectively faster but given it used the G1 blog for stats, Kratos' inferior AD is just icing on the cake because it would never let Asura catch up to begin with

Asura's AD is blatantly faster, but if they have remotely similar speeds or AP Kratos' own AD can give him more than enough time to out hax Asura.

So it's a undeniable boon and Asura's biggest win con, but the stars have to align for it to do anything
Ah, I see. I took a peek at the G1 blog and holy shit, Kratos has such a massive strength advantage over Asura.

So I can see what you mean: The gap in power, alongside Kratos' own ability to grow, just makes the possibility of Asura catching up incredibly unlikely.
 
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