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TM...you see what they are focusing on atm, dont get any hopes they will suddenly remember Asura Wrath, they didnt even do guest appearances with him in all these 10 years, not even in vs series despite being a good opportunity
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DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (2024–2025) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)
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About this, I've always seen it claimed that Asura destroyed Naraka here, but... are we sure that he didn't simply just shatter an illusion? I've never been able to find any extra context to that scene which suggests he shattered the actual realm, not even in the Complete Official Works. If that evidence does exist though, I'd be mad interested in seeing it.
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You are probably right.
Technically, they have done releases on not big ones like SF, RE & MH, such as Dead Rising & GhostnsGoblins getting new stuff, but iirc, Asura's Wrath didnt really sell well. So while possible, even a port might be very unlikely.
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Wait a minute... enhance...
ITS BEEN THERE THE WHOLE TIME
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The fact dubious datamined leaks that claimed Asura was gonna be DLC for MvCi (we all know how that game turned out), was considered the most Capcom have done for Asura's Wrath in years says it all tbh.
And sometimes waiting a long time doesn't even pay off, just ask Dragon's Dogma fans who waited over a decade for a sequel only to get a glorified reimagining of the first game (minus the DLC) that for every QoL improvement/new addition there's a catch or content that was removed from the first game (still sold well tho despite the mixed fan feedback and the head dev leaving Capcom).
Also next year Capcom is locked in on MH (Monster Hunter), which nearly single handily kept the company alive during the "Crapcom" days.
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Looks fake. Kratos's head is blurred, and it doesn't look close enough to Asura's model
Spinoirr
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ZeNoviceArtist
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Two beans killing for the crown.
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yeah, but this shit hasn't appeared in ages & the norse patheon games are really water the **** down with the terms of kraatos doing ANYTHING impressive out side of the greek saga, let alone do anything agaisnt a primodial sized entity. (basically, we want HIM to fight agaisnt huge foes like the titans, and even bigger.)It's crazy to me that there are people who continue to insist that the GoW series has never shown any cosmic feats on-screen before.. as if Ceto didn't chin check Uranus so hard in the beginning of Ascension that the Greek universe literally got flung out of his body, or like Morpheus engulfing all of Greek creation in his darkness with the goal of merging it into his world of dreams wasn't one of the main plot points of Chains of Olympus, or that Thor & Jormungandr didn't shake the Nine Realms in their battle and ended up splintering the Yggdrasil, which transcends & holds all of them on its boughs... shit is truly beyond me.
eventually people will get sick & tired of tier 1 kratos and downgrade him to hell & back out of spite because of the lore statements. (& specially the scattered wogs)
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Kinda late here, but, honestly found the Among Us vs Fall Guys match pretty enjoyable and funny all in all, despite not being familiar with any of the two outside the memes (and playing fallguys a couple of times with a friend). I was legit invested when it started as an Among Us match and then turned into a Fall Guys Race, to the point I felt a bit disapointed when it became a straight up fight between the Impostor and the Champion Fall Guy in a "Aww... I wanted to see the obstacle race, forgot this was a death battle" way.
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The Norse saga has Kratos directly scaling to or above beings:
- whose battles can be felt across all Nine Realms and even violently shake the Yggdrasil to the point of it splintering
- that can literally chew through the fabric of the Nine Realms or devour them entirely
- that can create Realm Tears, which are literal tears in the fabric of reality itself that can threaten the existence of Realms, with their own power. (Kratos can also close these Realm Tears with his strength)
- who have fought against and defeated Ymir, a Primordial-sized entity whose lifeblood was threatening to flood all of Norse creation, and fashioned entire Realms out of his flesh
- who can detonate an entire Realm, shaking the Yggdrasil to its very roots as a result
If anything, it seemed apparent to me that the ante was being upped even more in the Norse games, what with the introduction of constructs like the Yggdrasil, and frequently introducing world-ending threats like Garm and the like as they progressed.Someone could be as sick & tired of it as they want, but it won't make what happened on-screen & what was explained directly to us about the event several times any less true. It be what it be is all I can say to that.
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God I want it to be true, but Kratos reacting Atreus's arrows already puts him in MFTL+
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we never saw anything on screen with those things mentioned
again back to what i mentioned
we never saw those on screen nor shown in away that would have folks never questioned the idea of kratos fighting on a cosmic level
"show don't tell" exist for a reason
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In fairness to cosmic level Kratos: even if the lack of visual fears hampers people's acceptance of it, I am of the opinion that the intent of these statements and pieces of lore which put GOW at that level is that they're meant to be taken seriously. Like when they say things like Thor and Jormungandr fighting with enough intensity to splinter Yggdrasil and be felt across the 9 realms, Garm having the ability to chew the fabric of and destroy realms, or Ymir's blood flooding all of creation, the developers want us to look at those things and conclude they're actually apart of the game itself.
Don't get me wrong, I acknowledge that having visual feats to back them up would cause people to be more accepting to cosmic level Kratos. But at the same time, it's pretty unfair to dismiss those statements and pieces of lore as flavor text when the intent seems to be that they're meant to be taken seriously.
Don't get me wrong, I acknowledge that having visual feats to back them up would cause people to be more accepting to cosmic level Kratos. But at the same time, it's pretty unfair to dismiss those statements and pieces of lore as flavor text when the intent seems to be that they're meant to be taken seriously.
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Some mfs you can shoot a pokemon like charizard dead with a handgun
I don't really think lore yap matters to 99% of goons, half the time actual onscreen feats don't even matter even. You gotta spoonfeed that shit directly.
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Well hey, it's not as though it's said to be an illusion of any kind, yeah? That alone leaves the possibility that he indeed shattered that shit like glass.
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It's possible for sure, but scenes like this are why, to me, having actual explanations on top of the showings is so important in these kinds of games. While somebody can easily interpret this scene as him shattering a dimension, it's just as easy to say that he shattered an illusion instead because of just how vague it is. (And I personally think it'd be weird for Naraka to be destroyed considering the important it plays in the cosmology as the place where souls go after death.. but that's me.)
Even here on the site, this event is explained as Chakravartin "breaking through the Event Horizon, sending Asura's real self to Naraka and then making him come back through a warp in reality". And yet, from what I can find, this is never actually said anywhere in-game and is instead someone's interpretation of what was being depicted. That's why I appreciate it when there exists actual concrete explanations for supposed cosmic-level feats like these so we can remove that sense of vagueness.
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Oh yeah, definitely. Some indicators to give context on what's going on is important in cases like these. I just think that with Death Battle being more lenient, this would probably be a valid feat.
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ZeNoviceArtist
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I was just exploring other possibilities about what went down in that scene. I'm not against the idea of it being a dimensional shatter type deal, I've just always wondered if there was ever anything provided in the game's lore/secondary sources that would make it more ironclad since that's what's generally accepted to have happened.
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Like everything else, only if you ignore the capeshit
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I genuinly dont know a comic book character that can reach Rick and Doctor
Excluding omniscience since thats hard to debate with
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Dr Doom.Reed richards and whos above them
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Pretty sure neither have feats that put them above these two. Reed is a good contender for sure but I need to see some of his higher feats to decide
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It’s kind of an arbitrary trait so I don’t think there’s a point in measuring
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Also like, Rick ain’t that smart
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He easily is. He is just underrated
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Didn't he have to do some fuckery just to prevent anyone else from being smarter than him?
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I mean you could just say visual flair
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Yes evil Morty find out he and other Ricks built the finite curve or whatever so they can stay being the smartest beings in the multiverse
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Actual episode added a lot of fun details
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