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This thread will deal with the topic of god tiers of Crisis Cosmology, starting off with Monitor-Mind The Overvoid.
The above name was used more exclusively in Grant Morrison's Final Crisis and Multiversity and in some of Grant's interviews, but was not mentioned elsewhere, but the...
Hello! Following this thread and with the new tiering system of @Ultima_Reality, it is now time to revise our current tiers for the DC Comics Cosmology. Since, from what i understood, there are threads about revising the DeMatteis and the Vertigo cosmologies that are still ongoing, this thread...
The Presence, the Source, and Monitor-Mind The Overvoid are currently considered to be the same entity in DC's Crisis Cosmology, but this was applied rather sloppily after the cosmology split was accepted: only the tiers were changed for the longest time, and the Presence, which was supposed to...
A couple months ago, a thread was made that removed the Overvoids non-duality, which is obviously weird considering the general attribute that described the Overvoid was that it is a non-dual void. This thread is not to say that the other thread was wrong, partially at least, it's clearing up a...
As the name of this thread suggests, Transduality should be removed from the Monitor-Mind The Overvoid page. Currently, Monitor-Mind The Overvoid has types 2 of transduality in its profile, but there are some issues with that. This is taken directly from the Transduality page of the wiki...
This thread will primarily focus on what Mandrakk has in his current profile that needs fixing due to inconsistencies, contradictions, and the actual powers that Mandrakk should have.
Abstract Existence(Type 1) > Abstract Existence(Type 2):
The reason due to this change would have to come from...
In Lucifer (2006) #75
There is a statement that has troubled me because of people in the true form of hell (tiktok) use as evidence that Lucifer is a “Overvoid level entity”
As many would guess what i am talking about, i am referring to this scan
Is this really anything to scale Lucifer or...
So in the latest issue of Justice League Incarnate #4, It is revealed that In the beginning before creation and The Light existing was The Great Darkness/The Great Evil Beast.
The Light was depicted in being the same as The Overvoid with it being called “Immaculate Perfection” as well as The...
Justice League Incarnate came with information about the origins of creation and the Overvoid.
It clarified that the Overvoid/Monitor-Mind is in reality, only the light of the Presence being all there is, without darkness.
Here is the story:
In the beginning before creation and the light...
Since SCP get upgrade, so let do it (before CD get downgrade to 1C or WTF is it)
The Overvoid Lurk (SCP) vs Monitor Mind Overvoid (DC)
Both High-1A
Speed is equalized
SBA is applied
So, the high 1-As (and 0) in DC are their tier due to having the dc multiverse as a drawing on the over-monitor. This is the wrong tier for multiple reasons:
Being infinitely superior to a 1-A or viewing them as fiction only equates to a higher level of 1-A, not high 1-A
In order to get a high...
Not a CRT or anything, just wanted to know why it is actually H1A.
Is there like an infinite 1-A or 1-A+ hierarchy in DC that Monitor Mind transcends? Because I'm pretty sure that's what you need in order to be H1A, but I'm not seeing anything close to that. So, if someone could give me the...
Let me get this straight, the Overmonitor has been established over and over as the litteral page where writers in DC use to draw comics, which are made of paper
The Writer rappresents every writer that has written for DC, aka it's a bunch of people, which you know, aren't infinite infinities...
Grant Morrison directly says that The Source/God/Overvoid are one in the same, and each are just different interpretations and views of the same being
During Countdown, The Monitors directly use The Source and The Primal Monitor (Overmonitor) Interchangeably
Cronus describes The Godwave, Or...
Just listing all the things which suggest the title of this thread, to help the other thread
Grant Morrison directly says that The Source/God/Overvoid are one in the same, and each are just different interpretations and views of the same being
During Countdown, The Monitors directly use The...
Time to get the big revisions of the god tiers:
Endless: Stays at 1-A, pretty much expected especially since they are very baseline and don't transcend and exceed the scale. Stays at 1-A
Mother Night/Father Time:
Stays at 1-A. Sure they may be stronger than the endless, but they don't exceed...
the eonymous are very strange when it comes to DC comics as the entire story about them is a meta joke and yet i dont think they are given enough credit from my point of view after reading about them and seeing just how powerful i suggest a really terrible comment
the eonymous shouldnt be tier...
Just to make certain of the tier for other viewers, I think some links should be provided next to his High Hyperverse Level rating like other characters in the wiki.
About time someone made a discussion thread about that
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Introductio
So, to give you all a brief primer about...
As the title says, it's assumed on here that characters like The Presence and such are aspects of The Monitor Mind.
So shouldn't hax from those characters be scaled to it?
A shitty revision for a shitty series made by a shitty author. Anyway, as per usual, I'll be adding abilities and providing scans for stuff on profile.
Note: For anyone who doesn't know, the Morphigenic Field/The Red is the animal version of Swamp Thing (Classic)'s Green. Certain parts of this...
I would request to have the "Overmonitor" regarded as a false fanon name for the Overvoid.
Too many people across many forums have confused the Overmonitor (brother of the Anti-Monitor) with the Overvoid. And using that scan of BWL torturing the Overmonitor and etc. as an anti-Feat.
I don't...
The Above All Others is really the same entity as the One Above All? It has been stated that [https://m.imgur.com/a/zeIeIAP TOAA is a gestalt entity made up of every Marvel Creator/Editor/Reader and TOAA is outside and above Marvel. And the Above All Others is a marvel character. So, should we...
I just want clarification. It was never stated that the Writer is the manifestation of all the Writers in DC verse right? So why did you put it in his character profile. And the Writer died. And it wasn't stated that the Overvoid is the avatar of Grant Morrison's/Writer's tool
-I'm saying this...
So, this is real information/source for The Over Monitor?
"Grant Morrison explained it like this in terms of what he's supposed to be. Imagine the Overmonitor is a huge, blank piece of paper. There's nothing on him. Nothing. It's clean, white and pure. Until one day it discovers this crazy...
What Exactly is The Bleed?
is a Higher Dimension? part os the OverMonitor, another existence, an entitie, a place outside of everiting?
if someone can stay in The Bleed are and Higher Dimension being?
By having other writings like The Writer quotes, He it may fall to tier 1-A High? Or does it have an Entity that represents the whole committee of writers?
Hi all,
There is something that has been bugging me for a little while, namely this image on the Monitor-Mind's page:
http://i.imgur.com/rf8DXHn.png
Although it is a generally good description of Monitor-Mind, there are two flaws in using the page to describe Monitor-Mind. First is that the...
Hi guys,
I have noticed that the Overvoid is characterized by an infinite, white void. However, one of the scans on the Overvoid's page that depicts it as a black expanse of nothingness. However, there were references to "the Unmanifest Void", as opposed to the Overvoid directly. This is not...
Given that the Writer is the Creator of the DC Multiverse, I thought that the Hand from Green Lantern/New Gods:Godhead would be worth discussing.
Although the Hand is shown to be many contradictory things in DC Comics, this is the only version that I know of that is said to be responsible for...
If the Primal Monitor is considered the blank page and everything in DC exists within it, what about characters who can break the fourth wall? Doesn't that mean that they can exist outside of the primal monitor? And wouldn't they also be able to have power over it?
Matthew Schroeder and I have been discussing this for awhile now at the same time I had another revision in mind (which I'll get into later).
Matt and I believe that "The Writer" is the true supreme being of DC Comics and thus is possibly its Tier 0. We both combined our reasonings and came to...
In "A Dream of a Thousand Cats", it is shown that the thoughts and dreams of mankind are capable of altering reality. Even the Presence is shaped (possibly even made) by the power of thought.
There is one memorable occasion when we actually see the power at work (and the explanation behind it)...