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I am aware this is a contentious issue, but I have several problems with the current 5-C scaling for original Dragon Ball characters. The entire concept of the 5-C scaling is centered around a flawed logic suggested in this thread which justifies the scaling. Now, I'm not suggesting that Master...
Small addition for Kamehameha users ( i don't think i need a big explanation, right? )
Heat Manipulation: The Kamehameha generates a certain amount of heat and is capable of burning, bricks, irons, octopus, and a glass dome.
Currently we have Roshi's kamehameha sitting at Sub-Relativistic+ for the profiles off of this calculation:
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:SSJRyu1/Roshis_Moon_busting_kamehameha_Calculation
My proposal is to replace the speed of it with this one...
This is a re-attempt of this. And a direct refutation of this.
I won't be too long, I'll objectively prove Tien should be 5-C and there is nothing y'all can do about it.
EDIT:
TL;DR: 23rd Budokai Yamcha is 5-C, despite having a power level of 177, so Tien with a power level of 180 should...
Master Roshi VS Whitebeard (Edward Newgate)
Speed is equalized
Both are Moon Level
Both start at 10 meters of distance
"MAX Power Form (Resurrection 'F' Saga)" key for Roshi and "Old" key for Whitebeard are being used
The fight takes place in an empty city
SBA for everything that i don´t...
Goten and Trunks are told to go to Kame house by Goku to train under his old master, Roshi. The kids arrive there and are introduced by the Turtle Hermit. He then tells the kids to battle him in order to to test their strength and skills (OG DB callback yey)
Goten and Trunks are in ssj and are...
Since @Damage3245 decided to close his own thread abruptly, and how no one even managed to address my arguments here during the whole thread, I am making this one to highlight these points and again argue for 5-C 22nd Budokai Tenkaichi characters. This will make it more difficult for anyone to...
The purpose of this revision is to revise the AP, Striking Strength and Durability statistics of Tien Shinhan, Master Roshi, Son Goku, Drum and Yajirobe.
Currently, the characters all scale to Moon level via Tien Shinhan being scaled erroneously to Master Roshi's Max Power Kamehameha feat.
The...
Battle takes place on the USS M'DICK
Start 5 meters away
Roshi has Prior knowledge and 1 second of prep time
Sans has half a second of prep time
Sans has knowledge of the submarine they're fighting in
Speed Equal
Max Power Roshi is used
Master Roshi: 0
Sans: 0
Inconclusive: 0
The likes of Krillin, Tien Shinhan, and Master Roshi during the Universe Survival Saga share a rating of At least High 4-C and Massively FTL+.
This is on the grounds that the three characters were capable of completely destroying chunks of the Tournament of Power arena, which is made up of...
Roshi currently stands at Large Star Level and that just seems like downplay to me so i'm going to make a compelling argument for low multi Roshi.
Roshi has been shown to wrestle with Base Goku while he's holding back
Base Goku by this point should scale nigh infinitely (hyperbole) beyond...
Saitama (41,66Exatons/Post-training) vs Master Roshi (29,6Exatons/MAX Power Form (Dragon Ball))
speed equal
Saitama has prior knowledge
both start ten meters apart
Pevert master:
Egg bald:
King stomp:
i saw how OG dragon ball gokus range for his 22nd Budokai | King Piccolo Saga | 23rd Budokai keys looks like this
Standard melee range. Hundreds of meters with ki blasts and attacks. Planetary with the Power Pole | Standard melee range. Tens of kilometers with ki blasts and attacks. Planetary...
I can created this calc here and found out that Goku pre-training has Class 25+ (418328.29786 N) lifting strength and post training Goku has Class K (5225042.605857 N) lifting strength, therefore I propose for Goku's lifitng strength:
Lifting Strength: at least Class 5 (Lifted and throwed...
boku no hero academia
dragon ball
dragon ball (verse)
izuku midoriya
izuku midoriya (deku)
izuku midoriya (my hero academia)
masterroshi
my hero academia
dragon ball
dragon ball (toei)
dragon ball (verse)
dragon ball super
dragon ball z
kaguya
kaguya ōtsutsuki
masterroshi
naruto (the universe)
naruto (verse)
Mr. Satan has been time warped back to the 21st Budokai, and surprisingly qualifies for it over Krillin. After a comedic bout against Bacterian, Mr. Satan faces Jackie Chun in the second round... Can he pull it off?
Obviously tournament rules apply. Mr. Satan doesn't have his gun, any bombs or...
Some years after his match with Goku (this doesn't affect the battle, it's just plot) Ryu wanted to pay a visit to the old man that gave up his match that day, and that Ryu suspected being Goku's master.
Used to travel long distances alone, reaching Roshi's island after gathering information...
[Post-ToP Humans]
All the "human" Z Fighters should be upgraded to 3-B (Multi-Galaxy level) under this reasoning:
As you can see, Goten and Trunks can fight the seven Cell Jr. evenly.
The Cell Jr. has been training with 17 all this time and therefore, they should have increased their...
In chapter 3 of Dragon Ball, Goku one shots a bear theif!
I did a calculation for the bear theif's AP: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Hagane_no_Saiyajin/Goku_kills_a_bear
The results speak for themselves of the speed being subsonic and AP being 9-A
With that being said, it may be...
I know, i know. I made a similar post not so long ago, but this time it's with a different reasoning:
Currently, the reason for Tien (22°TB key) to be listed as possibly 5-C is because "Master Roshi stated that Tenshinhan might have won if their fight continued". This implies that, although...
Currently, Chi-Chi is listed as High 8-C, but i think she should be 5-C.
In her battle against Goku, she forced him to move and even jump high into the air in order to dodge her attacks.
On the other hand, Tien didn't even move to dodge Tao's attacks, and Goku was far stronger than Tien at...
Kisaragi Ryuko vs Max Power Roshi from Dragon Ball
Speed Equalised
VS
(These pics aren't the keys I'm using, just thought they looked funny together)
Ryuko:
Roshi:
Incon:
This is an attempt to achieve the edition of the profiles of three characters of the verse.
KAMI-SAMA'S SHENLONG
Magic/Reality Warping Power: At least Moon level via Wish Granting in its Restoration form (Regardless of whether he or Kami-sama restores the moon, both are the same level as he...
Master Roshi (RoF, Buff) vs Skeletron Prime (Rage Mode)
Both At least 5-C
Bloodlusted, speed equalized, SBA (Anywhere in Daylight for Skeletron Prime)
Skeletron Prime:
Master Roshi:
Inconclusive:
In Dragon Ball Super Episode 76, Master Roshi sends Goku and Krillin to find and bring back the Paradise Herb to him. This herb is what grants a millennia life span to Roshi.
Master Roshi has Immortality (Type 1) and Self-Sustenance (type 2), which makes no sense. Because if he did not consume...
Requested by others to be staff only- but will be listening to arguments if you send it through PM. Unfortunately, I'm actually rather busy this week but people are getting impatient, I'll have to be mostly hands-off on the thread.
We had a recent thread on the topic, but the rule regarding...
Welp, the time is here. This CRT will be divided into three parts. DB, DBS and DBS Chou.
DBS Chou
The first one is the shortest section of the CRT Base Goku should be 3-B. Here, not only is Goku able to knock some hair off a suppressed Whis but it's shown (or at least implied) that Base Goku...
Roshi destroyed the moon, Kid Goku became stronger than him
Kid Goku dodge a laser, laser are made of light
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/543781510264782849/706485076069974016/3071736-8326905675-27435.gif?width=303&height=492
Goku turn invisible, and cannot be ssen by Krilin which...
(Hub)
The current standings
Now it's the last round before we start the Quarterfinals. On 1 side we got Master Roshi from Dragon Ball nominated by me. On the other side we got Melissa from the Puella Magi Verse nominated by EdwardTroung2006. Who will win?? Let us find out!!
Rules:
1. Speed...
Firstly in the master roshi destroying Fire Mountain calculation it uses both scense from the anime and manga, since the dragon ball anime and manga are diffrent verses isn't that a problem
Next in King Piccolo's Young Self stats come from a calculation with an image that seamingly no longer...
The Low-Tiers of the Universal Survival Saga such as Ten Shin Han and Muten Roshi are rated as High 4-C because they can destroy Katchi Katchin while Base Gohan from the Majin Boo Saga was unable to destroy normal Katchin. However, Base Gohan is only 4-C on that key. Quoting his profile...
I have noticed that Master Roshi's placed City Block Level for "At least City Block level (Almost in the same level as Tien Shinha in the 22nd Budokai)", which I feel is wrong. Master Roshi has shown a greater feat than that should put him up higher. Master Roshi was able to destroy the Moon as...
master of the turtle school, Master roshi
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Master_Roshi#Jiangshi%20Roshi
vs
the destroyer of heaven, Akuma
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Akuma_(Asura%27s_Wrath)
who would win in a one on one fight to the death?
(speed equalized, both high 4-C.)
old...
My Power is Max!
Futo hears about a "Turtle Hermit" through the grapevine. After flying over to Kame House to meet the esteemed master, her pyromaniac urges act up and she starts a small fire on the island. Master Roshi comes out to fight the arsonist.
Both in character
Both 4-C
Speed...