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Continuation of this thread, which became like super long and hard to follow:
8-B and Class M
This new calc came out, with Flowey having both 8-B stats and Class M LS as a side effect.
Now... how would this affect scaling?
Attack Potency
As already said in Asgore's profile, he's far...
Just decided to give a minor fix for this fella.
Asriel's Intelligence
For some reason the profile doesn't include sections for his child self, so I fixed that and did this. References will be added in the profile if accepted.
Also updated from Above Average to Genius, due to him being...
Human... It was nice to meet you.: StrymULTRA Catbowtie Adem_Warlock69 AThe1412 V999 ShockingPsychic IamMadeOutOfStone
You have fans, I have soldiers.:
Reimu comes and invites them both for some tea:
Speed is equal
Both are 9-A
both start 4 meters away from each other
both in character...
So, Deltarune was downgraded to 9-A, which means we can do Deltarune vs Undertale matches. So, to celebrate, let’s make Asgore fight someone that looks like his dead son!
Asgore, scales above 0.044 Tons of TNT:
Ralsei, scales to 0.075 Tons of TNT: 4 (StrymULTRA, CBslayeR, Blunt_Claw, AThe1412)...
Because I notices some characters are lacking some important stuff which I think it's more a oversight than anything else.
Chara's Pre-Death key
I'm not really fond of the existence of this key, as almost all of it comes from just assumptions and scaling from other characters, but I disgress...
Rules:
Speed is equalized
Phobos is in his first key
Starting distance is 10 meters
Asgore is aware of who Phobos is
"STEP ASIDE GENTLEMEN, A GOD STANDS BEFORE YOU NOW!"
(Upscales from 0.06 tons)
7 votes
"Human... It was nice to meet you. Goodbye."
(Upscales from 0.04 tons)
Rules
Mid Game Cuphead is used
Speed is equalized
Location is the Barrier
Starting distance is 10 meters
SBA for anything else
Voting
"I ain't too worried about it.": 7
(0.132 tons of TNT)
"Why not settle this... Over a nice cup of tea?":
(0.044 tons of TNT)
Inconclusive:
Yes, we are making this.
ASGORE VS DUMMY
Battle takes place in front of Queen's mansion.
Speed is equalized.
Asgore is 0.25 tons scaling above a 9-A+ feat.
Dummy is 0.30 tons and at least 0.30 tons in durability.
Asgore: 7 (Fezzih_007, JustANormalLemon, LeoEpicGamer8910, QrowBarr...
ASGORE VS SPAMTON NEO
Sinse they are in the same tier again, let's do this again
here is the original Thread
here is the second try
Spamton is NEO
Asgore is King
Speed equalized
Battle takes place in the Barrier Turned in a dark world
Battle theme
Spamton... It was nice to meet you...
ASGORE VS SPAMTON NEO
Sinse they are in the same tier again, let's do this again
here is the original Thread
Spamton is NEO
Asgore is King
Speed equalized
Battle takes place in the Barrier Turned in a dark world
Battle theme
Spamton... It was nice to meet you. Goodbye.: 7 (ShionAH...
Finding himself in the hall of the mountian king, Reed Richards stands his ground.
Both 8-C, any equipment higher than this tier is not allowed
Asgore upscales from 0.89 Tons
Reed scales to 0.31 tons
Battle takes place at the Barrier (Undertale)
Speed equal, no prep time
THE MOUNTAIN KING...
Original Thread here. Making this as the Staff didn't remotely read my arguments, so I'll make this CRT so they'll be forced to read them this time.
The thing is that Frisk has now resistance to Soul Absorption due to them apparentely not being affected from Photoshop Flowey trying to absorb...
Kris vs King Asgore
Battle takes place inside the barrier.
Chapter 2 Kris is being used, and they have access to all their ACTs and Yellow Mode.
Speed is equalized.
Kris is scaling above 0.075 tons.
Asgore is immensely stronger than 0.024 tons.
Kris: 7 (StrymULTRA, Psychomaster35...
So this is a rather simple one.
Currently, every single character in the Undertale verse has Durability Negation on their profiles. This comes from the fact that they use soul magic, and all of their attacks target the soul, which probably means it gets past conventional durability. Which seems...
King of Monsters vs King of Spades
This fight was unscrewed by a CRT. were back baby!!!!!!
Both are 9-A
Speed Equalized
Battle takes place on top of the card castle
Chaos:
Goat:
This time is Asgore.
So, I won't tell or say about anything that is 8 tier, no, I just came up with "likely" or "possibly" higher.
Do we know that Humans could SAVE&LOAD in their adventures? Yes, we sure know.
Toriel in the game said that she feel like she already know them when she saw...
Asgore Dreemurr vs. Heavy
Fighting Location: The Barrier
Starting Distance: 8 meters
Both in-character, and are willing-to-kill
Speed Equalized
Asgore scales to 0.024 tons, Heavy scales to 0.007 tons
First Key Heavy (9-A) Key is used
Heavy has the Stock Minigun, Family Business, and Gloves of...
ASGORE VS SPAMTON NEO
Spamton is NEO
Asgore is King
Speed equalized
Battle takes place in the Barrier Turned in a dark world
Battle theme
Spamton... It was nice to meet you. Goodbye.: 7 (Psychomaster35,
DaReaperMan, FantaRin_The_First, Mariogoods, The_Almighty_Wholesome, Sans2345...
Both are 9-B
Speed is equalized
Battle takes place in Radiator Springs
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Lightning_McQueen_(Canon)
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Asgore_Dreemurr
Lightning McQueen: 0
Asgore: 0
Ok, this is a minor question, but how come Mettaton Neo is listed as "vastly superior to Toriel and Asgore." The gap is only by 10, which is very minor considering how we scale the other monsters. Undyne remarks Papyrus as physically strong (As listed on his profile) and the gap is 30ATK. The...
Due to recent downgrades to Sans physically. Many of his match ups should likely be removed or redone. I making this thread to discuss which ones I believe need removal with his downgrades and why, due to the very large amount of fights he has. Most all of these are straight forward with the...
It's stated on Asgore's profile that Flowey couldn't have defeated Asgore without LOVE, using his OF fight intro monologue as proof of it as he says "Without you, I never could have gotten past him". However, what he means is much more likely to be that he literally couldn't go past Asgore as...
I was reading through this thread, and saw a comment about where Undertale's Soul Manipulation Potency and Resistance is coming from: The ATK and DEF stats.
Then I realized: in-game, you raise your DEF stats by wearing completely regular clothes.
...Where exactly did we get durability...
Both 9-A
both are in-character but willing to kill
speed equalized
win via by death, incap, or KO
SBA
King Fluffybuns: 2 (Rinneltachi) (Walker21232123)
Lazybones: 15 (Super Ascended Sean Pazdera) (Gojiboyforever) (Maruishimaryishi) (Mortizva) (Jackythejack) (Kriskirby) (TheQuirkyBoy)...
Both 9-A. End Game Cuphead is used.
Due to some huge misunderstandings, Cuphead finds himself in the throne room of King Asgore Dreemurr. Cuphead instantly rushes into battle, and Asgore defends himself.
Speed is equalized and both are in-character.
Cup:
Goat:
Before I begin, I will be referring to Frisk as "she" where applicable, for simplicity's sake. Also, when mentioning items I will link the wiki page to the item instead of a screenshot to confirm they are not from a fangame, nor an AU… also because I couldn't find a screenshot for all of them...
This happened and now Asgore has had it with humans.
Same rules as the last one. Speed is equalised, James is in the Vanquish, 20m starting difference. Cue hilarity in the comments
Goat Dad: 0
Mr steal your goat: 0
Inconclusive: 0
The Snatcher (A Hat in Time) VS Asgore (Undertale)
Speed is =
Both are Bloodlusted
Fight to the Death
Battle in Subcone Forest
Contracts:0
Souls:7 (Apies, Paul, Arsenal, Jim, EMagolor, Planck69,Superray06)
Inconclusive:0
Time you saw what I'm really capable of, kid. Say goodbye to that...
both 7-C tier
Battle is not to the death to see which one would win
Battle takes place in the judgement hall
Speed is equal
Undyne: 0
Asgore Dreemurr: 0
Inconclusive: 0
Music
Asgore Dreemurr, King of Monsters
Undyne, leader of the royal guard
VS
There's a ton of old stuff lying around the basement of Asgore's castle, so for the annual spring cleaning drive, he decides to go there and incinerate all the trash. He goes to the basement and sees a weird black painting of a human woman and decides to make it the first thing to incinerate...
Basically no UT char should be regular 7-C, since everyone who is 7-C scales from Undyne who is 7-C for being unquantifyably stronger than Tsunderplane.
Round 3!
Speed is equal and all contestants are in-character. (Betrayal is not allowed btw)
Victory via incap, ko, or death.
Who wins?
Grand King Ghidorah and Asgore Dreemurr: 0
Corrin (Fire Emblem) and Anubis (Z.O.E.): 0
Well, I tought about making this for a bit, so let's, eh?
Asgore Dreemurr
Kwon Shi-Yu
Speed unequal (Asgore should have a 1.5 speed advantage).
Kwon fell down into ebott while hunting for demons, and found herself in the underground. Exept she entered from the wrong side.
Kwon views Asgore...