Asgore fights a little small dragon

[Dragonite007]

Little small dragon vs Big goat

• SBA

Assgore:

World Gobbler:

Incon:

Asgore is >>> 17.75 tons
World Gobbler is >>>>> 11.93 tons

 

[StrymULTRA]

What does the dragon start with?

Asgore's 1st move is spamming fireball Danmaku, whose flames are >>4982.22 °C, while Orange Fire (the one the dragon showcased in the clips) is 1200 °C max.

 

[Dragonite007]

What does the dragon start with?

Asgore's 1st move is spamming fireball Danmaku, whose flames are >>4982.22 °C, while Orange Fire (the one the dragon showcased in the clips) is 1200 °C max.

WG most characteristic attack and what it usually starts is shock waves.

It also can use its absorption to suck the fire that Asgore create, which would force Asgore to anchor to the ground so he doesn't get sucked in

 

[StrymULTRA]

From what I saw, AP-wise they're basically equal, maybe Asgore still being a tiny bit stronger.

LS-wise the dragon is superior, yes, but not too much, meaning that Asgore than hold on his trident to avoid being sucked.

But regardless, what stops Asgore from still spamming fireballs, each strong like himself, and only leaving enough space for a small kid to dodge? Them going inside the dragon would still be fatal, as they'd be dozens, if not hundreds of fireballs each way over 4 times the amount of heat the dragon showcased to tank.

 

[Dragonite007]

From what I saw, AP-wise they're basically equal, maybe Asgore still being a tiny bit stronger.

LS-wise the dragon is superior, yes, but not too much, meaning that Asgore than hold on his trident to avoid being sucked.

But regardless, what stops Asgore from still spamming fireballs, each strong like himself, and only leaving enough space for a small kid to dodge? Them going inside the dragon would still be fatal, as they'd be dozens, if not hundreds of fireballs each way over 4 times the amount of heat the dragon showcased to tank.

Asgore couldn't spam his attacks when the dragon is with its mounth open, because he'll be busy trying not to get sucked in.

WG is too big to dodge any danmaku, not that it matters since when he starts absorbing things, the fire will start to accumulate in a single point

They going inside the dragon will cause damage, but not be fatal since he don't have muscles or organs and he is too big to get melted at fatal point easily

 

[Dragonite007]

Why most of my threads suddenly die


World Gobbler can probably exploit monsters weakness, since he goes straight to kill

Asgore can't exploit WG weakness, since he just has one trident

 

[StrymULTRA]

World Gobbler can probably exploit monsters weakness, since he goes straight to kill

You missed the whole point of it.

Monsters' weakness happen when both the monster is not willing to fight and especially when the opponent has bloodlust.

However in order to be exploitable to the degree that even monsters like Undyne get one-shotted, the opponent has to be on genocidal degrees of insanity like Chara.

It's not like monsters become super frail at the mere presence of intent to kill, the no mercy run aren't Genocide runs for a reason.

 

[Dragonite007]

You missed the whole point of it.

Monsters' weakness happen when both the monster is willing to fight and especially when the opponent has bloodlust.

However in order to be exploitableto the degree that even monsters like Undyne get one-shotted, the opponent has to be on genocidal degrees of insanity like Chara.

It's not like monsters become super frail at the mere presence of intent to kill, the no mercy run aren't Genocide runs for a reason.

What exactly would fit in genocidal degrees of insanity?

Because WG first scene was him destroying a village, and he was slowly destroying the whole world just via existing

 

[StrymULTRA]

What exactly would fit in genocidal degrees of insanity?

Chara's desire to purposely wipe out everything in existence for the sake of power.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

What exactly would fit in genocidal degrees of insanity?

Because WG first scene was him destroying a village, and he was slowly destroying the whole world just via existing

Y’know, on Genocide, you have to literally purposefully wait for somebody to come so you can kill them until there is nobody left. Like a maniac.
It’s not just “killing everyone on your way”. As Strym said, no mercy is not Genocide Route for a reason.

 

[Dragonite007]

I will make a little check in WG haxs:

- Shockwaves: Won't be very usefull, since they are more for AoE than for againt single targets, but can probaly be used to disperse some fire that Asgore throw on him

- Wather manipulation: Not very usefull

- Biological Manipulation: Asgore is Inorganic

- Absorption: If Asgore get sucked, he's dead, but he can oppose with his LS

- Transmutation: I don't know, probably is a wincon

- Chaos Manipulation: Mehh, unless Asgore is hide in a building, will be useless

-Madness: Is a wincon, and the only hax that Asgore can't find a way to evict, but its overtime, so will no be a factor too soon

-Flight: WG can be smar to an animal, but he is not that smart to spam attacks from kilometers away

 

[Dragonite007]

B.U.M.P

 

[Dragonite007]

And them the thread die again

Just notice now that asgore can't hit WG's head since Asgore just have Tens of Meters range, and World Gobbler is 140 meters tall, so even If he had two trident, he couldn't exploit WG weakness

 

[Dragonite007]

bump

 

[Peppersalt43]

Bumping for interest

 

[StrymULTRA]

Ah so this was for Top 15?

Well... I suppose I should keep arguing.

I'd remember that SOUL Magic takes less hits than normal to kill, btw.

 

[Dragonite007]

Ah so this was for Top 15?

Well... I suppose I should keep arguing.

I'd remember that SOUL Magic takes less hits than normal to kill, btw.

So, the entire match is If Asgore can get near WG, without being sucked to inside WG mouth

 

[StrymULTRA]

So, the entire match is If Asgore can get near WG, without being sucked to inside WG mouth

Plus depends if WG can survive sucking these.

Asgore's 1st move is spamming fireball Danmaku, whose flames are >>4982.22 °C, while Orange Fire (the one the dragon showcased in the clips) is 1200 °C max.

 

[Dragonite007]

Plus depends if WG can survive sucking these.

This is beyond WG resistance, but WG is so big, that will take time to fully melt WG month and teeths

He is like 130 meters tall a + the fact that his only vital point is his eyes

 

[Bernkastelll]

This is beyond WG resistance, but WG is so big, that will take time to fully melt WG month and teeths

Well, I don't really thinks so, Asgore spams a lot, nothing stops him from doing this

Also, I really need to thank you, I remember watching this movie as a kid but I didnt remember the name and wasnt even sure if the movie was I real, my only memory was the girl and a dragon skeleton, oh God, finally i found this, thank you so much

 

[StrymULTRA]

I forgot also this, where Asgore can shoot the bullets which will keep traveling as well.

 

[Dragonite007]

Well, I don't really thinks so, Asgore spams a lot, nothing stops him from doing this

I forgot also this, where Asgore can shoot the bullets which will keep traveling as well.

Yeah, I don't think WG can beat Asgore before getting killed, the only possible wincon is his Madness Manipulation, but the fact that is overtime, make this wincon very unlikely

I will move Undertale character to above World Gobbler later

Also, I really need to thank you, I remember watching this movie as a kid but I didnt remember the name and wasnt even sure if the movie was I real, my only memory was the girl and a dragon skeleton, oh God, finally i found this, thank you so much

You're welcome