Ok, Let's Talk Kashin Koji (Boruto CRT)

[Fastestthingalive50]

I mean, 5-c Koji still stands anyways. @sageof8paths csn you please talk about the majestic attire stuff that multiple stuff agreed on iirc?

 

[sageof8paths]

Isshiki literally had a limited lifespan
Why would he give them more time to get Kawaki away or lose some of his time

Like I said in character, Isshiki would rather die than see humans as equals

 

[sageof8paths]

I mean, 5-c Koji still stands anyways. @sageof8paths csn you please talk about the majestic attire stuff that multiple stuff agreed on iirc?

Aiit imma summarize it. 3-5 staff members agreed on it iirc. Fused Momoshiki should be a direct addition because it’s stated that kinshiki’snpower had been directly passed on to momoshiki, base momoshiki and kinshiki individually should scale to toneris throwing the moon at earth feat with 199.3 Exatons making fused momoshiki 398.6 Exatons which is 1.09 times weaker than the baseline for small planet level. Naruto would scale to this individually and sasuke would atleast scale to kinshiki individually since there is controversy in whether he scales to fused momoshiki. Doing the math, they surpass the baseline for small planet level with the mejjestic attire susano. Jigen should be above this because it’s stated numerous times that no matter what they do, they will still lose and the only way to beat him is to wait till his life force runs out. Code without his limiters and eida should scale to this as well as isshiki and baryon mode naruto

 

[Fastestthingalive50]

Don’t forget the boy Koji.

 

[sageof8paths]

Don’t forget the boy Koji.

That’s what this thread is for lmao

 

[RanaProGamer]

https://vsbattles.com/threads/curse-mark-and-sage-mode-multiplier-removal-crt.119609/

Why must you do this Tempest!?
Jk, if that gets accepted, I guess we can still discuss 5-C Kashin Koji

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

So we just need to:

Write the "Justifications" for "Base Koji" and "Sage Mode Koji's" statistics (AP/S/SS/LS/D).

Remove the "At Least" from "True Form Isshiki", "Baryon Mode Naruto", and "Code Without Limiters" statistics.

Change the "5-C Ratings" of "True Form Isshiki", "Baryon Mode Naruto", and "Code Without Limiters"

Basically, if the SM Multiplier CRT is finished we would just have to:

Remove the "Low 5-B Ratings" for "Sage Mode Koji's" Statistics.

Keep the "At Least" for "True Form Isshiki", "Baryon Mode Naruto", and "Code Without Limiters" Statistics.

Keep the "5-C Ratings" of "True Form Isshiki", "Baryon Mode Naruto", and "Code Without Limiters".

 

[theultimate5105]

Like I said in character, Isshiki would rather die than see humans as equals

Why would he rather die then try at all. It doesn't make any sense

 

[KingTempest]

Basically, if the SM Multiplier CRT is finished we would just have to:

Remove the "Low 5-B Ratings" for "Sage Mode Koji's" Statistics.

Keep the "At Least" for "True Form Isshiki", "Baryon Mode Naruto", and "Code Without Limiters" Statistics.

Keep the "5-C Ratings" of "True Form Isshiki", "Baryon Mode Naruto", and "Code Without Limiters".

You can still get Low 5-B off of the upscale thread

 

[RanaProGamer]

You can still get Low 5-B off of the upscale thread

Well, at least we can still discuss Kashin Koji’s ratings in this thread.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

I still think base Koji should be Unknown.

5-C or whatever for his Sage Mode.

 

[Avengershows]

I think the context of the situation matters

Even though Amado stated that Koji was made for the purpose of killing Jigen it seems that Koji is only capable of killing Jigen when certain conditions are met.

Idk if this was answered but that's because Jigen ordered all cyborgs stronger than him to be eliminated

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

Idk if this was answered but that's because Jigen ordered all cyborgs stronger than him to be eliminated

I'm well aware. What I'm saying is that certain conditions need to be met in order for Koji to kill Jigen.

In simpler terms, Koji can fight Jigen but can't beat him in a prolonged fight, but when certain conditions, such as Jigen being drained of Chakra, are met then Koji can kill Jigen.

 

[Avengershows]

I'm well aware. What I'm saying is that certain conditions need to be met in order for Koji to kill Jigen.

In simpler terms, Koji can fight Jigen but can't beat him in a prolonged fight, but when certain conditions, such as Jigen being drained of Chakra, are met then Koji can kill Jigen.

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[sageof8paths]

I still think base Koji should be Unknown.

5-C or whatever for his Sage Mode.

Please could u check my crt to see the changes?

 

[ΚΟΜΙΞ]

I still think base Koji should be Unknown.

5-C or whatever for his Sage Mode.

He should be Unknown,higher with Sage Mode.

 

[Fastestthingalive50]

We already went through hell explaining why he is 5-c in base though.

 

[joshpiece]

I still think base Koji should be Unknown.

5-C or whatever for his Sage Mode.

No his base is 5-C I’ve already summarized why that is.

Koji is 5-C in base I’ll argue that for another 5 pages if I have too. None of the arguments make sense.

 

[StrawHatArslan]

Since a different thread already got accepted, with I think 797 exatons, would this be closed?

 

[Fastestthingalive50]

Yep.

 

[RanaProGamer]

Wait, why would this be closed, we haven't decided on Kashin Koji's rating which was the whole purpose of this thread?

 

[StrawHatArslan]

Wait, why would this be closed, we haven't decided on Kashin Koji's rating which was the whole purpose of this thread?

Isn't he already Low 5-B with sage mode?

 

[sageof8paths]

Isn't he already Low 5-B with sage mode?

Yes but it’s not universally agreed on

 

[RanaProGamer]

Isn't he already Low 5-B with sage mode?

Hasn't been accepted yet

 

[StrawHatArslan]

Hasn't been accepted yet

Why was it applied?

 

[RanaProGamer]

Why was it applied?

Oh wait, it got applied, I didn't check, my bad, this can be closed then.

 

[sageof8paths]

If I’m being honest, I think he should be he should be Moon Level+ and say possibly Small Planet Level because we really don’t know if he was gonna use sage mode against delta or not

 

[Fastestthingalive50]

We already explained Jigen though.

 

[sageof8paths]

We already explained Jigen though.

Could u repeat it, I might have missed the arguements, my bad.

 

[Fastestthingalive50]

Him clashing with Jigen in base and shit, Joshpiece can explain it better.

 

[sageof8paths]

Him clashing with Jigen in base and shit, Joshpiece can explain it better.

Ok but jigen wa stated less than 10%

 

[PrinceofPein]

Ok but jigen wa stated less than 10%

still fondled both naruto and sasuke like kids

 

[RanaProGamer]

Ok but jigen wa stated less than 10%

I'll explain, basically, the whole assumption was that 10% Jigen was at 10% power, but the only thing that was ever mentioned was that he's at 10% chakra capacity, chakra =/= AP so which means it doesn't reduce the overall strength. Kashin Koji fought 10% Jigen in hopes of making him use up the last of his chakra and finally dealing the killing blow. Other hints are the cracks he got on his body after fighting Naruto and Sasuke, which wasn't there during his fight with Kashin Koji.

 

[sageof8paths]

still fondled both naruto and sasuke like kids

Jigen beat them at 100% wtf are u talkin about

 

[sageof8paths]

I'll explain, basically, the whole assumption was that 10% Jigen was at 10% power, but the only thing that was ever mentioned was that he's at 10% chakra capacity, chakra =/= AP so which means it doesn't reduce the overall strength. Kashin Koji fought 10% Jigen in hopes of making him use up the last of his chakra and finally dealing the killing blow. Other hints are the cracks he got on his body after fighting Naruto and Sasuke, which wasn't there during his fight with Kashin Koji.

But we know chakra directly powers up karma so the more chakra the karma has absorbed the stronger it is. Which is why he took some ten tails chakra before he fought naruto and sasuke

 

[PrinceofPein]

Jigen beat them at 100% wtf are u talkin about

yes chakra capacity, ur amount of chakra does not reduce AP

 

[RanaProGamer]

To summarize

Koji is 5-C in base for swapping hands with Jigen and taking his strikes.

His SM is a 10x multiplier so ishiki baryon mode Naruto and code w/white karma scale to Koji in SM

To summarize debunking the arguments.

People are making the claim that Jigen was at 10% overall power while fighting Base Koji so he shouldn’t scale.

This is just false the 10% statement is referring to overall chakra capacity. As Jigen states multiple times he is weary of using to much chakra as well as Kurama stated Jigen doesn’t want to waste chakra. And we all know chakra reserves doesn’t = overall strength. Also Amado’s plan was to have koji fight Jigen when he was at low chakra reserves to have him reincarnate as Ishiki

also it’s debunked with Jigens crystal on his body that shows when his body is deteriorating. It was fine starting out in both of the fights against Koji and Naruto/Sasuke with it only cracking after majority of the fight was over. Showing Jigen was fine physically at the beginning of both fights and can still have 5-C attacks/durability.

Edit: also supporting 5-C base Koji is that he was more than willing to fight Delta another 5-C character before he was planning on fighting Jigen. Although it could be speculated he would go into sage mode for the fight but that claim has no relevant evidence to prove so. Especially since Koji was making hand signs to use a jutsu and not enter sage mode (one where he doesn’t need to use hand signs to enter)

The summary of this thread in case you were wondering

 

[sageof8paths]

yes chakra capacity, ur amount of chakra does not reduce AP

It does in terms of Karma

 

[sageof8paths]

The summary of this thread in case you were wondering

Yes and I am saying Karma’s power is reactive to how much chakra it has absorbed

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

Then if that's the case, Borushiki nor Sasuke without his Rinnegan and Low on Chakra would be 5-C