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Versus Thread Removal Requests (New forum)

Vizer04 said:
If the battle prolongues for too long he would do that as a last resort... and there's nothing Cavill can do, even if the battle is long
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Does Reeve have a speed advantage? Does Reeve do better using his powers in conjuction with melee? No? Then Cavill can indeed win in-character.
 
Spinoirr said:
This needs to be removed
Because post haven yang (the one I used) got a ap upgrade and the majority of her skillset and abilities were never brought up as well as yang getting Absorption on her profile
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Kazuma_kuwabara said:

The match is a bit outdated, Blake is now High 8-C while Zuko is 8-C, so one of the only advantages Zuko had does not exist anymore and he has to surpass Aura first to start doing any damage to Blake

Asking to remove it myself to not cause any trouble
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Expectro2000xxx said:
Caster (Leonardo da Vinci) vs Mami Tomoe should be removed since it really outdated, now servants are 6-C while Mami is only 6-C in last key Holy Mami which wasn't used, futher more do to several hax upgrades to the servant physiology I think don't have win con.

Archer (Fujino Asagami) vs Mami Tomoe should be removed by the same reasons.

Profiles:
Archer (Fujino Asagami)
Caster (Leonardo da Vinci)
Mami Tomoe
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Removed all, sorry for the wait.

FarerPurple said:

9-A vs a Low 7-C
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This thread is for removing matches, not closing them. I'll close it though.
 
How does the tier change anything?

It was already obviously a stomp on the AP side of things for Yukari, but she lost because of Kumagawa's All Fiction.

Forgive me, as I'm not knowledgeable in either Touhou or Medaka Box, but I'm fairly certain nothing stops Kumagawa's All Fiction from retaining his victory here.
 
FluffyCreatureZ said:
I don't know where to post this but here we go.
So I noticed a critical flaw in this match.
Akainu vs Son Goku
Basically the key used for Goku had a wrong speed rating, instead of 0.75 c it's actually 0.1 C making this a blitz for akainu. Also akainu is getting upgraded to 5c or something so it'd be a blitz regardless.
BUT, the arguments in the thread relied very little on speed and it was basically negligible and we decided that even if speed was equalized the result wouldn't change at all.

So I think it'd be better to just equalize speed instead of removing the match all together.
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Bump, what you guys think?
 
Starter_Pack said:
How does the tier change anything?

It was already obviously a stomp on the AP side of things for Yukari, but she lost because of Kumagawa's All Fiction.

Forgive me, as I'm not knowledgeable in either Touhou or Medaka Box, but I'm fairly certain nothing stops Kumagawa's All Fiction from retaining his victory here.
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Thank you for fast response I'm not Knowledgeble Medaka box too so I guess I'll rematch then
 
A Player vs a Samurai: Scott Pilgrim vs Kenshin Himura (Rurouni Kenshin) | VS Battles Wiki Forum

Alex Russo vs Misogi Kumagawa (Subjective Reality Users) (GRACE) | VS Battles Wiki Forum

Red (pokemon) vs scp-049

Sailor Moon vs Timmy Turner (Sailor Moon vs The Fairly Oddparents!) | VS Battles Wiki Forum

Grass Grows, Birds Fly, and Brother I HATE FORTNITE (Scout vs the Looper) | VS Battles Wiki Forum

an angel vs an alchemist | VS Battles Wiki Forum

Rocky Balboa vs Kamijou Touma (Rocky Series vs A Certain Magical Index) | VS Battles Wiki Forum

Benetash vs Ruphas Mafahl (In-Universe Battle because i can't use them in crossovers) | VS Battles Wiki Forum

Harry Potter vs Rem (1 vote left) | VS Battles Wiki Forum

Conan vs Shion Remake (better neutral) | VS Battles Wiki Forum

somebody once told me an ogre doesn't like a furry. 3 votes left | VS Battles Wiki Forum

Underwater battle: Ryley robinson vs Gomamon (1 vote left) | VS Battles Wiki Forum

Battle of the plot manipulators: Altair (Re:Creators) vs Sonic the Hedgehog (Archie Comics)


sorry about the huge list of matches but it's because of this new speed rule




man i wish i could make a content revision about this but i can't. since i'm terrible at big things like that.

Anyway thanks to this rule. it just cost me a lot of matches because of reaction speed and stuff.
 
Pokemonfan807 said:
A Player vs a Samurai: Scott Pilgrim vs Kenshin Himura (Rurouni Kenshin) | VS Battles Wiki Forum

Alex Russo vs Misogi Kumagawa (Subjective Reality Users) (GRACE) | VS Battles Wiki Forum

Red (pokemon) vs scp-049

Sailor Moon vs Timmy Turner (Sailor Moon vs The Fairly Oddparents!) | VS Battles Wiki Forum

Grass Grows, Birds Fly, and Brother I HATE FORTNITE (Scout vs the Looper) | VS Battles Wiki Forum

an angel vs an alchemist | VS Battles Wiki Forum

Rocky Balboa vs Kamijou Touma (Rocky Series vs A Certain Magical Index) | VS Battles Wiki Forum

Benetash vs Ruphas Mafahl (In-Universe Battle because i can't use them in crossovers) | VS Battles Wiki Forum

Harry Potter vs Rem (1 vote left) | VS Battles Wiki Forum

Conan vs Shion Remake (better neutral) | VS Battles Wiki Forum

somebody once told me an ogre doesn't like a furry. 3 votes left | VS Battles Wiki Forum

Underwater battle: Ryley robinson vs Gomamon (1 vote left) | VS Battles Wiki Forum

Battle of the plot manipulators: Altair (Re:Creators) vs Sonic the Hedgehog (Archie Comics)


sorry about the huge list of matches but it's because of this new speed rule




man i wish i could make a content revision about this but i can't. since i'm terrible at big things like that.

Anyway thanks to this rule. it just cost me a lot of matches because of reaction speed and stuff.
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That speed rule means you just don't scale reaction and combat speed to flight speed... the matches you posted have speed equalized no? So what did that rule change?
 
LordGriffin1000 said:
That speed rule means you just don't scale reaction and combat speed to flight speed... the matches you posted have speed equalized no? So what did that rule change?
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He means the versus thread rule that was put in place several months ago that changed how speed equal works
 
DaReaperMan said:
He means the versus thread rule that was put in place several months ago that changed how speed equal works
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But he didn’t explain what changed in said matches because of said rule.

The rule is: "The combat speed of that faster character is assumed to be equalized to the combat speed of the slower character. Every other speed the faster character has is reduced by the same multiplier. This includes the speed of any attacks, projectiles, reactions, perception, flight etc."

Example the first linked match: Scott Pilgrim has Subsonic combat and reaction speed while Kenshin is Subsonic+ with Supersonic+ combat and reaction speed. This means Kenshin's combat and reaction speed will be reduced to Subsonic to match that of Scott's... so what makes this match invalid?
 
i'll just give the speeds of all the characters here if that will help with anything.


Alex: Average Human with Superhuman reactions (Is able to keep up with Justin who was able to play ping pong with a dozen balls at once), Subsonic flight speed with magic carpet, far higher attack speed with various spells

Misogi: Relativistic (Comparable to Pre-End God Mode Medaka), He can also make his time zero so that his movements become virtually instantaneous, granting him Pseudo-Teleportation and Pseudo-Time Stop


even with the equalize speed. since superhuman is greater than average human. there's still a reaction speed advantage for alex.

SCP-049: Average Human, Subsonic Reactions and Combat Speed

Red: Peak Human with FTL reactions (Should be comparable to his Adventures counterpart who can dodge and react to attacks from fully evolved Pokémon). Higher with Running Shoes


Again Red still has reaction advantage even with the speed equalized

Sailor Moon: Massively FTL+

Timmy: Massively FTL (Kept up with Eliminators in base, who repeatedly fought ancient Fairy warriors together with the Darkness. Bestowed with the powers of Turbo Thunder, who outpaced the Darkness by briefly moving interplanetary distances; The Darkness briefly navigated interstellar distances), Varies attack speed with Fairly Magic

Attack speed varies for timmy. if his attack speed is greater than his travel speed thing. then he has a advantage. (the battle is speed equalized) (Someone ask @Eficiente about this)

Scout: Peak Human movement (Among the mercenaries, Scout is known for his speed and being the fastest, having spent his entire life running. Crossed a gap before being hit by a slowing down train within a short timeframe) with Subsonic to Subsonic+ reaction speed (Comparable to the Pyro who utilizes compression blasts to deflect projectiles such as arrows and rockets), higher with the Baby Face's Blaster at 100% boost. Supersonic attack speed with Standard Equipment, Massively Hypersonic reactions/combat speed on BONK!.


The Looper: Average Human travel Speed, higher with the Infinity Blade, Supersonic+ attack and reaction speed (The Looper has access and can react to various firearms, and can build walls in the time it takes bullets from Sniper Rifles to reach them)


That bonk reaction speed is problematic even with equalized speed.

Kanade: Hypersonic+ (Able to easily outspeed sniper rifle rounds, Was able to activate Distortion fast enough to block a grenade exploding at point-blank range), Higher with Delay (Was able to disappear from Yuri's sight)


Edward Elric: Supersonic+ (Can dodge a bullet at point blank range), Hypersonic with a lighter automail (Solf J. Kimblee realized that he is too fast, likely able to keep up with Greedling, who can keep up with Wrath)


maybe since he starts out with the lighter automail. (i'm a little unsure of this one)

Rocky: Peak Human (Can keep up with slow-moving vehicles for sustained periods of time) with Superhuman attack speed (Boxers can generate punch speeds exceeding 15 m/s)

Touma: Peak Human (Fast enough to fight and dodge attacks from multiple people at the same time), though he can defend himself from much faster supernatural ranged attacks via Precognition (His Precognition works by unconsciously reacting to the opponent's involuntary movements prior to an attack, so it doesn't work against people like Saints who move too fast for him to react to)


even with speed equalized, attack speed is higher

Benetash: Relativistic+ (Moves at almost the speed of light[5]. Can move at over mach 400,000[10])

Ruphas: Relativistic+ (Moves at over Mach 100,000[32]. Comparable to Benetnash who can move at almost the speed of light), FTL attack speed and reaction speed with Shine Blow and Flash (Shine Blow is an absolute accuracy skill, which as its name suggests makes the user attack at lightspeed, however the speed of light is relative, it moves at the speed Ruphas perceives it which means when she normally moves fast compressing time, it's actually far faster than the speed of light[21]. Flash is an absolute evasion skill that lets the user evade at faster than light speed)

Ruphas still has higher attack/reaction speed even when equalized


Harry Potter: Athletic Human with Subsonic reactions (Capable of maneuvering with his broomstick in the seeker position of Quidditch, which requires to dodge the Bludgers while trying to catch the Snitch. Both of them moving as fast as broomsticks like a Firebolt. Dodged multiple curses by Voldemort and Death Eaters)

Rem: Supersonic (Kept up with Rai, comparable to Crusch and Ram)


Harry has reaction speed advantage when equalized

Shion: Superhuman with Subsonic reactions (Comparable to her sister), up to Supersonic attack speed with guns (Has an AK-47 and a Dragonov sniper)

Conan: Below Average Human (Is physically a 6-7-year-old child), Athletic Human reactions speeds (Reacted to criminals on various occasions and can defeat them), Superhuman with his Turbo Engine Skateboard (Can easily catch up to a speeding car), Supersonic with his Power-Enhancing Kick Shoes (Saved a kid from a criminal that was going to stab him with a knife)


i equalized this match so they both have same attack speeds but the reaction speeds might be a problem. (Shion: Subsonic reaction) and (conan: Athletic Human)

Shrek: Superhuman (Successfully outran Dragon. Kept up with Donkey and eventually caught him; motivated adult donkeys can run up to 40 mph (64.4 kph) at short distances), with Subsonic reactions (Dodged the arrows of an expert archer with ease)

Beast: Superhuman (Outran wolves, so his peak should be around 35 miles per hour)

Reaction speed will still be higher than beast even equalized

Ryley: Athletic Human with Peak Human Combat Speed and Reactions (Can react to Tiger Plant spines, which move at 10 m/s, Can react to and grab fauna while piloting the Seaglide, which moves at 10 m/s), Superhuman movement speed with the Seamoth (Can attain a maximum of 13 m/s), High Hypersonic with the Neptune Escape Rocket (Capable of attaining escape velocity from an earth-like planet) with Massively FTL+ Flight Speed (Capable of flying to another star system in seconds)

Gomamon: Massively Hypersonic+ (Comparable to Tentomon)


Equalize things but the other speeds ryley has will be higher

Final one

Altair: Unknown, at least Hypersonic movement speed with Relativistic+ combat speed and reactions (While it is not known if her speed was also increased, she should be no slower than before)

Sonic: Massively FTL+ (Can form and throw a ball of water in a tenth of a femtosecond. Able to cross the multiverse in a short timespan. Stated to be capable of visiting all the planets within the universe in a short amount of time, placing him at 324.68 Octillion x FTL), faster with the Super Peel Out (The Super Peel Out vastly increases his speed)


Equalized but altair still has that combat speed problem


Lordgriffin you said this


"Example the first linked match: Scott Pilgrim has Subsonic combat and reaction speed while Kenshin is Subsonic+ with Supersonic+ combat and reaction speed. This means Kenshin's combat and reaction speed will be reduced to Subsonic to match that of Scott's... so what makes this match invalid?"


Problem is what if one character has reaction speed but the other does not.

same goes with someone having attack speed but the other one does not.



Anyway because of this new speed rule. many of my matches got invalidated which sucks.
 
Monika’s match against Archie Sonic needs to be removed, This has been bothering me for quite some time seeing as Archie Sonic has been obtaining all this crazy hax, Monika can no longer counter his Fate Hax (it’s Low 1-C iirc) plus Sonic could just incap, and Sonic has his own Plot Hax as well( even though it’s more like breaking the fourth wall) the argument was “Sonic can’t kill Monika even with Fate Hax” which doesn’t work, Like I mentioned, Fate Hax is Low 1-C I’m pretty sure, and Sonic has things to incap her

this match is invalid and Monika can’t counter any of his abilities.
 
FoxySonicMaster108 said:
Monika’s match against Archie Sonic needs to be removed, This has been bothering me for quite some time seeing as Archie Sonic has been obtaining all this crazy hax, Monika can no longer counter his Fate Hax (it’s Low 1-C iirc) plus Sonic could just incap, and Sonic has his own Plot Hax as well( even though it’s more like breaking the fourth wall) the argument was “Sonic can’t kill Monika even with Fate Hax” which doesn’t work, Like I mentioned, Fate Hax is Low 1-C I’m pretty sure, and Sonic has things to incap her

this match is invalid and Monika can’t counter any of his abilities.
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bump
 
Four VS Chowder

The reasoning for the inconclusive match is pretty much outdated since things have changed greatly overtime once BFB ended, especially where the match claimed it was out of character for Four to use his mutilation to transmute and therefore incapacitate Chowder. However, it is in-character since he has been shown to use it around an equal amount of times as his other abilities, especially when accounting to this scene where he shifts between his different abilities.
 
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Psychomaster35 said:
Four VS Chowder

The reasoning for the inconclusive match is pretty much outdated since things have changed greatly overtime once BFB ended, especially where the match claimed it was out of character for Four to use his mutilation to transmute and therefore incapacitate Chowder. However, it is not in-character since he has been shown to use it around an equal amount of times as his other abilities, especially when accounting to this scene where he shifts between his different abilities.
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Removed.

FoxySonicMaster108 said:
Monika’s match against Archie Sonic needs to be removed, This has been bothering me for quite some time seeing as Archie Sonic has been obtaining all this crazy hax, Monika can no longer counter his Fate Hax (it’s Low 1-C iirc) plus Sonic could just incap, and Sonic has his own Plot Hax as well( even though it’s more like breaking the fourth wall) the argument was “Sonic can’t kill Monika even with Fate Hax” which doesn’t work, Like I mentioned, Fate Hax is Low 1-C I’m pretty sure, and Sonic has things to incap her

this match is invalid and Monika can’t counter any of his abilities.
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FoxySonicMaster108 said:
bump
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My apologies. I was waiting to see if someone had any issues with removing this match which is why I didn't remove it quickly. When my phone charges back up, I'll remove it from the profiles.
 
FoxySonicMaster108 said:
Monika’s match against Archie Sonic needs to be removed, This has been bothering me for quite some time seeing as Archie Sonic has been obtaining all this crazy hax, Monika can no longer counter his Fate Hax (it’s Low 1-C iirc) plus Sonic could just incap, and Sonic has his own Plot Hax as well( even though it’s more like breaking the fourth wall) the argument was “Sonic can’t kill Monika even with Fate Hax” which doesn’t work, Like I mentioned, Fate Hax is Low 1-C I’m pretty sure, and Sonic has things to incap her

this match is invalid and Monika can’t counter any of his abilities.
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