The Elder Scrolls Revisions II: Daggerfall

[Keeweed]

The oxymoron part was actually said in the thread ironically.

 

[Wokistan]

Being susceptible to having souls implanted on to you still means you are susceptible to some form of soul manip, even if you wouldn't have one by default.

 

[DivineTedrius]

What protagonist is the strongest has long been a subject of debate, I'll be interested to see Matt's take on it

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

Being susceptible to having souls implanted on to you still means you are susceptible to some form of soul manip, even if you wouldn't have one by default.

No, it means you're susceptible to being made susceptible of being soulhaxed. In the 'soulless' state you would be immune to it, and if something is made to change that state you would no longer be souless, and no longer have the immunity.

 

[CryoTheMayo]

I'm referring only to characters in Low 2-C but that Lavos key certainly seems like it would trash Vestige.

 

[Wokistan]

Having a soul forcibly imposed on to you is a form of soul manipulation. As such, not having a soul doesn't make you immune to all forms of soul manipulation. There's also characters like The Warpriest who have it via being able to mess with their own soul which lets them do things to one shot the PCs, and a profile that says "immune to soul manip" may result in characters like that being considered unable to damage soulless dude with their attack by confused users.

 

[Keeweed]

I believe there are a few characters that don't care about the oxymoron and just soul hax soulless beings anyways (even if there aren't someone eventually is going to make one).

 

[Wokistan]

I believe there are a few characters that don't care about the oxymoron and just soul hax soulless beings anyways (even if there aren't someone eventually is going to make one).

I know a digimon is like this but that should honestly just be considered something else. Same for the dude who can "atomize" concepts having matter manip.

 

[Keeweed]

But I mean what if the writer makes it very clear that it's soul manipulation and just doesn't care about the oxymoron?

 

[Wokistan]

Idk what kind of writer would do that, but we should just disregard that or call into question how soulless the soulless dude is imo.

 

[Keeweed]

Real quick how do you cross out things you write I want to make a joke

 

[Wokistan]

<s>Text you want to cross out</s>

 

[Keeweed]

I would be that type of writer

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Strongest protagonist is Jubal from C0DA.

 

[Keeweed]

Also watch as despite being called the soulless one and not having a soul Matthew find a way for him to not have soul resistance making the last 10 post pointless

 

[StarSlayer666]

The strongest character in TES is M'aiq The Liar.

 

[DivineTedrius]

The strongest character in TES is M'aiq The Liar.

Me, an intellectual:

 

[KongKing23]

What protagonist is the strongest has long been a subject of debate, I'll be interested to see Matt's take on it

That would be Cyrus the HoonDing for all playable protagonists. Vestige is the strongest main installment hero.

>Strongest protagonist is Jubal from C0DA.

I think you forgot Cyrus for kicking both Talos and Vehk in the balls.

 

[Ultima_Reality]

Lel. Vivec kicked Cyrus' ass

Then Talos kicked it even harder.

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

who is the strongest 1A in TES?

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Arkay.

...wait.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Probably Lorkhan if we're not including the Amaranth.

 

[Ultima_Reality]

Strongest 1-A is the Dreamsleeve obviously.

 

[Keeweed]

Is the Vestige getting this or no?

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

We just gonna ignore OG Sithis and give Lorkhan all the credit? That's cold, bruh.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Holy shit I totally forgot about Anu and Padomay lmao.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

There goes Matt again, bringing up characters who clearly don't exist and are just conspiracy theories.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

You actually meet Sithis in person in ESO, Azzy, fun fact.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Yeah, why do you think I mentioned him and not those other even stronger guys who clearly don't exist?

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

aAAah, I see.

 

[VitaminC23]

So glad to see these things finally being fixed

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

So glad to see these things finally being fixed

I can't wait for a couple of months later, for us to start going, "Remember when Daedric Princes were Low 2-C at best?"

 

[Ultima_Reality]

Akatosh was considered the weakest 2-A back then, and a guy argued that his power was inapplicable for combat.

Those were dark days.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Yeah, why do you think I mentioned him and not those other even stronger guys who clearly don't exist?

We should add Nonexistent Physiology, how did you guys miss that?

 

[Dust_Collector]

Akatosh was considered the weakest 2-A back then, and a guy argued that his power was inapplicable for combat.
Those were dark days.

I remember a Alduin vs Zeno thread where Shazam argued Zeno could beat any of the Deadric Princes and the Nine Divines and that you don't even need to be FTL to beat them as they "lack speed feats". Dark days indeed...

 

[Ultima_Reality]

Shazam was tearing TES apart.

 

[Hl3_or_bust]

Anyone have a link to that thread?

 

[Keeweed]

I can't wait for a couple of months later, for us to start going, "Remember when Daedric Princes were Low 2-C at best?"

Remember when Akatosh was county level (yes he was country level at one point (baseline at that))

 

[Keeweed]

Akatosh was considered the weakest 2-A back then, and a guy argued that his power was inapplicable for combat.

Those were dark days.

Oh god don't remind me, I was completely dumbfounded by that back in the day and wish I would have said something about it (probably would have got shot down)

 

[DivineTedrius]

Normal Human Dovahkiin speed.