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The Elder Scrolls Revision IV: Oblivion

The Eternal Champion is independent of scaling from later games as Arena's lore and the greater ES lore contradict eachother so much it isn't even funny. The same sort of goes for Jagar.
 
i already post it for Matthew, but i am new in this and want to go safe, so


I want to discuss the tier of the daedric princes , because in some books they are cleary et'Ada bound by the aurbis and this way High 1-B (https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Monomyth) and even Kong write this in a match

KongKing23

Even Daedric Princes predate concepts and high complex dimensions/infinite dimensions, (https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/2577662),

so i think they would need to be High 1-B or to put as likely High 1-B

Thanks for the atention.
 
Reposting my answer here:

Contrary to popular belief, the Daedric Princes are clearly not as powerful as the original Et'Ada, and did subgradiate themselves, albeit differently from the Aedra who bound themselves to Mundus.

The fact that the Aedra manage to keep the Daedric Princes from entering Mundus makes no sense if the later are High 1-B while the former aren't. There is also a small portion of the power of the Divines contained within the Amulet of King being enough to defeat Molag Bal inside his own Realm of Coldharbour.

Meanwhile, we have multiple examples of Daedra who are weaker than their Et'Ada state, notably Meridia, who used to be the Magne-Ge Merid-Nunda before falling from Aetherius, and Malacath, who used to be the Et'Ada Trinimac before being corrupted. Hermaeus Mora himself was never an Et'Ada, and was born from cast away ideas thrown by Magnus during the creation of Mundus.

So yes, the Daedric Princes aren't Et'Ada.
 
The event happened in the Merethic Era so Trinimac would have been an Aedra by then, and the story is highly symbolical and doesn't reflect an actual fight much less strict power levels.
 
Matthew Schroeder said:
The blog definitely shows that High 8-C dragons are a ludicrous lowball. Look at the sheer amount of Tier 7 feats for random mages.
Are the dragons staying high 8-C?
 
I think that fodder dragons should stay High 8-C for now, but there are stronger types of dragons like Frost Dragons, Blood Dragons, Elder Dragons, Ancient Dragons, Serpentine Dragons, and finaly Legendary Dragons. I don't know what tier all those dragons are. I only know that Legendary Dragons are potentially High 6-A.
 
Not.a.chance.

Dragons are far above any other creature or common being in Skyrim, and likely all of Tamriel. Them being 7-B scaling from common mages is still probably a ridiculous lowball.
 
A lot of works still need to be done. I believe the parts about Daedric Princes remained unfinished. It will take a while before getting into the mortal world. At the very least, I will scout and make character profiles of lesser known mortals if I have the time.
 
Just out of curiousity how are we treating Muatra tier wise? Does is scale with Vivec's tier, Low 1-C for biting Molag Bal or something else?
 
Is there any information on what The Dreamsleeve actually is?

I remember it being mentioned to be the "deepest part of the Godhead's dream", but that's about it
 
That's a very shit explanation which I will kindly wait for either Ultima or Matt to destroy.
 
Dreamsleeve is one of the reasons that I personally have a headcanon that anyone from any fictional universe can reincarnate as The Prisoner (Isekai). The cosmological background of Dreamsleeve purposefully allows any fictional crossovers like Fallout or Dishonored meet Elder Scrolls.

I remembered that the boat operated by Old Samuel in Dishonored is called "Amaranth"
 
i assume The Vestige is going to get a lot of tasty hax added to their profile? What with The Necromancer class having been revealed and coming out in several months. Although I imagine that any additions would happen after the class is actually released and observation of the skills are discussed.
 
6-C is too high, I think. Aldumeri mages are naturally better than most mages, and that 6-C feat seems to be done by a bunch of them working together.
 
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