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[Fixxed]

@Fixxed So you're telling me that you're completely fine with using a blog that had little to no explanation for all of the stuff you claimed in the end just because it was accepted, despite the fact the Admins who did accept it barely knew what was the actual intent of the upgrade. You do realize this is a violation of one of the rules in content revision right? More specifically this.

• The opening post of a content revision thread has to include a clear summary in the opening post what major changes are being made so that everyone involved in the discussion will be on the same page. For example, if an updated profile has been created in a sandbox with a new Power & Abilities section, then you should summarize or bullet point in the opening post the major changes that are being proposed so that people don't overlook them.

Not only was the staff not on the same page since they had no idea what you were trying to push but you never once explained the infinite 6-D layers that would be applied to Anos, plus again the arguments you provided in said blog did not prove layered hax or resistance negation layers or anything like that, so you're being dishonest as **** right now.

First of all i made that explanation page for explain further about deepened. I already write in the conclusion of the blog what ability that the deepened will get

Two, my explanation page is just to explain that deepened mean layered, the major change is deepened=layered, i already say the infinitely layer is come from the scan that say infinitely deepened, it not come from that explanation blog

But because deepened mean layered it clearly mean infinitely layered

Again and again that blog for explain deepened=layered
The infinitely layered is result of there are scan that clearly proof about infinitely deepened

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Yeah, I agree with Dread and the others here. Making an Argumentum Ad Verbose argument with no summary and writing it in a way where staff may nod their heads without thinking too doesn't really sit right around here and could potentially make various other upgrades get out of control.

 

[Fixxed]

Yeah, I agree with Dread and the others here. Making an Argumentum Ad Verbose argument with no summary and writing it in a way where staff may nod their heads without thinking too doesn't really sit right around here and could potentially make various other upgrades get out of control.

Can you read my explaination about that?
The thread is only for one change, the other change it come from result because it accepted

Ahh this

Again and again,
First i already say that arnos already have infinitely deepened's statement that already accepted in this thread. But that thread is not explain further about deepened work in the verse, about deepened can be layered,so the one that just accepted is just
INFINITELY DEEPENED STATEMENT OF ARNOS' ROOT

And then i make explanation page, for explain further about deepened, and it accepted in this thread, i already stated claerly that deepened will have higher resistence and resistence negation or layered to all the previous power

The premises:

• Arnos' root is can deepened infinitely
• Deepened means layered

The conclusion is
● ARNOS IS CAN LAYERED INFINITELY

Bruh this is simple logic

That thread is just for explain further about deepened. So why i must brought the infinitely layer thing in that???

And then someone is ask for the where the 6D hax come from??
That already accepted in this thread , that every ability from arnos' chaos root it will scale to the venuzdonoa and arnos' root it self can destroy the silver sea that is 6D

Now we have 3 premise

• Arnos' root is can deepened infinitely
• Deepened means layered
• Arnos root' ability it scale to the 6D level

The conclusion is
Arnos is can infinitely layered 6D ability

 

[Robo432343]

You are still talking about infinitely layered Anos upgrade in a RVR thread. This isn't the point here.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

That's another issue, it's problematic when the RVR thread gets dragged out for too long over the same topic. @Fixxed I know you were being reported over some tactics on the verse specific topic, and that you were trying to explain your side of the story, but if it's getting repeated and circular instead of letting more staff members take a look and weighing in, then it can get more annoying if anything.

 

[Fixxed]

That's another issue, it's problematic when the RVR thread gets dragged out for too long over the same topic. @Fixxed I know you were being reported over some tactics on the verse specific topic, and that you were trying to explain your side of the story, but if it's getting repeated and circular instead of letting more staff members take a look and weighing in, then it can get more annoying if anything.

I just explain the problem in here

They report me because they say the thread i made is for upgrade for infinitely layer but i not write that in the thread. That false bacause when i claim the infinitely layer, the scan i brought is other scan that is already accepted even before that blog, and there are no in that blog even brough that scan, so is not need for me to write the infinitely layer

 

[Fixxed]

You are still talking about infinitely layered Anos upgrade in a RVR thread. This isn't the point here.

Yeah but i not say my thread (explanation thread) is for up the infinitely layer, that is the main problem in here about that thread

I brought other scan for the infinitely layer, as i say i brought that blog for prove deepened=layered not for prove infinitely layered

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

Yeah but i not say my thread (explanation thread) is for up the infinitely layer, that is the main problem in here about that thread

I brought other scan for the infinitely layer, as i say i brought that blog for prove deepened=layered not for prove infinitely layered

From what I see you insert an already accepted scan but then add an expanded interpretation onto it acting as if that interpretation was already accepted. Which doesn't seem to be cool at all and against the Wiki's rules. You could've just done it without realizing what's wrong with it as well so IMO I suggest just accepting the criticism and proposing your interpretation in a new thread. So basically just don't die on this hill or it might make things worse.

 

[Fixxed]

From what I see you insert an already accepted scan but then add an expanded interpretation onto it acting as if that interpretation was already accepted. Which doesn't seem to be cool at all and against the Wiki's rules. You could've just done it without realizing what's wrong with it as well so IMO I suggest just accepting the criticism and proposing your interpretation in a new thread. So basically just don't die on this hill or it might make things worse.

The problem in here is not because i make interpretation about "infinitely layer". But because they say the thread i made (explanation page) is for upgrade the infinitely layer but not included or write some explanation about that, so they said i manipulated the staff for accept that without aware what the thread is made for. That is false i already explain that above

 

[Firestorm808]

I'm trying to understand the chain of events.

To clarify, a VS thread used a thread about a blog to justify upgrading a character's profile?

 

[Theglassman12]

@Firestorm808 it used a blog that has little to no explanation for the supposed upgrade that they’re talking about to make the character far stronger than they appear. Plus the staff who agreed with the CRT that had a blog had little to no idea that it was the intention of the OP as it was never said in the OP or the blog itself.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

This new user made this edit without a CRT

Sounds like a troll

 

[ImmortalDread]

Reverted the changes, but I can't delete the page.

 

[ElajRuengies]

Ah, that also goes in Profile Deletion- I thought the page was the original SCP-055 page

 

[ImmortalDread]

I am filing a complaint against @Fixxed for misusing the system and deliberately attempting to harm the community in the verse.
I will provide additional details to clarify my point.

@Fixxed started a thread without clearly discussing a crucial aspect of a well-known light novel character, Anos. The original intention was not related to the infinite layers argument, but rather focused on exploring the works within the verse.

In a versus thread, @Fixxed's arguments were not accepted, and the decision was in Anos's favor (victory – for having 6D infinite layers/AP)

Nowhere is this an accepted argument in VSBW and has never been addressed properly​

To be clear, the only accepted thread that comprehensively covers everything is the one I created, which ranges from 2-A to 6D baseline. It was accepted that Anos has 99 · countless layers of hax, but not infinite layers.

• Explanation Page(which is accepted by two admins vaguely)
  • vague, poorly made, and contained grammatical errors.
• The intentionally vague thread was the last accepted submission.
• The last accepted proper thread

It is crucial to note that threads of this nature require extensive and thoughtful discussion.
However, the thread in question was concluded within a mere two days without adequate input or addressing the matter at hand.

Certain staff members tentatively supported the thread without realizing the implications. Notably, no member with substantial knowledge in the MG area, such as @Dereck03 or @Oblivion_Of_The_Endless, was involved in the discussion.

In conclusion

• A hastily conducted and highly controversial CRT that failed to address the main point appropriately
• Manipulation of arguments
• A manipulation of standards
• An unjust match conclusion with dishonest intentions.
• The admins who agreed themselves were never aware of the main premise behind the blog
  • The fact that he implied the existence of infinite layers in his previous thread indicates that he either never reviewed or failed to establish the thread's premise.

Anyone? The case is still open.

 

[Tatsumi504]

Anyone? The case is still open.

Please give it a rest already. For one, this is being built entirely around a misunderstanding. There was absolutely zero vote manipulation or any of the other offenses being listed.

The only issue here is that he is using a CRT for a blog that was accepted to claim that an upgrade for a character has been officially accepted.
The blog only exists to explain the mechanism behind his argument. It wasn't a hidden agenda to manipulate votes or get what wasn't in the premise accepted.

Now before I'm hit with the "You're not staff" argument from anyone, the point is, if you're gonna judge him, do it based on the actual offense that was committed. Don't confound a simple case of misconceptions and lack of communication to increase the amount of offenses committed.

The offense is simply using a separate accepted CRT to claim a completely separate argument has been accepted. As such, i see nothing deserving of strict punishment here. A warning should more than suffice

 

[Deceived3596]

This user completely vandalized Jugram Haschwalth's profile, doing such things as completely blanking it and adding 1-A/0 categories, I've undid the vandalism as well.

Clear troll, send them to the vortex.

 

[Deceived3596]

He also vandalized the Sanji and Raven Branwen profiles, I've undid the edits on the Sanji profile but it seems like he undid the edits on the Raven Branwen profile, which is kinda strange given his previous actions tbh.

 

[Dereck03]

Blocked the vandal.

 

[Antvasima]

Please give it a rest already. For one, this is being built entirely around a misunderstanding. There was absolutely zero vote manipulation or any of the other offenses being listed.

The only issue here is that he is using a CRT for a blog that was accepted to claim that an upgrade for a character has been officially accepted.
The blog only exists to explain the mechanism behind his argument. It wasn't a hidden agenda to manipulate votes or get what wasn't in the premise accepted.

Now before I'm hit with the "You're not staff" argument from anyone, the point is, if you're gonna judge him, do it based on the actual offense that was committed. Don't confound a simple case of misconceptions and lack of communication to increase the amount of offenses committed.

The offense is simply using a separate accepted CRT to claim a completely separate argument has been accepted. As such, i see nothing deserving of strict punishment here. A warning should more than suffice

What do the rest of our staff here think about this? It seems to make sense to me.

Also, big thanks to all of our members who are helping out here.

 

[1st_Virtue_of_Pure_Void]

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someone repair this.

 

[Antvasima]

Veldora Tempest (Web Novel)

Veldora Tempest is the youngest of the four strongest dragons, the True Dragons. He was the one who gave Rimuru Tempest his name, and Rimuru, in turn, gave him his last name. Tier: 3-A | Low 2-C Key: Web Novel story | Afterstories Name: Veldora Tempest Origin: Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken...

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someone repair this.

I handled it.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

What do the rest of our staff here think about this? It seems to make sense to me.

Also, big thanks to all of our members who are helping out here.

I shouldn't be commenting here. But as a verse supporters and who reviewed Fixxed Blog I should say Tatsumi is correct Fixxed Didn't Manipulated staff in accepting that Blog this is big misunderstanding. He created a Blog to explain how mechanism of Deepening works.

If other arguments of Infinite layers should be accepted before Arguing. People should advice him to create a seperate thread for that. Just advice him that without misunderstanding his intention. Fixxed is one of the non-aggressive member in our wiki. I hope we don't treat him badly for small misunderstanding in his arguments.

@LordGriffin1000 & @DarkDragonMedeus
These two agreed for Blog with correct information I hope they don't misunderstand what's being presented in that Blog.

Anyway if my comment feels like unnecessary feel free to delete it..

 

[Reiner04]

I agree, I know @Fixxed personally and he is not good in expressing himself properly and not good with english but I don't think he can try to harm anyone or even attempt to manipulate anyone (sorry I just wanted to comment on this matter which I don't usually on RVR)

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

So.

This is bad, right?

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

In this thread Reporting Condensing attitude from @Georredannea15

https://vsbattles.com/threads/top-10-strongest-non-smurfs-for-every-tier-continued-again.147562/post-5553999

He has done this many times. I finally adviced him to make a Downgrade CRT if he Disagrees otherwise I will report him in RVR for derailing the thread with his condensing attitude.

https://vsbattles.com/threads/top-10-strongest-non-smurfs-for-every-tier-continued-again.147562/post-5554153

Anos Profile already has Proof for accepted 6D NEP and TD3 for lacking all order where we previously even had to deal with people here regarding Silver Sea being made up of Order which is already accepted as 6D here by @Ultima_Reality . But @Georredannea15 is not listening what others are saying keep insisting on its only limited to 5D. I hope some staff gives him a warning on how our wiki standards works.

Here are profile description which already exists

Spoiler

Transduality (Type 3) for his source (Anos' source is the essence of destruction and is hypothesized to be "chaos" itself, which is the lack of and opposite of "all order" without exception.[19]which includes the Order of Causality that governs the world's system of causality[20][21]. Order in specific follows a system of duality, and Order in general is a nonduality state of oneness[22][23] that exists throughout all of reality on a conceptual level. In logic given an attribute "A" and "Not A" which will be called "B", order will be both A and B and neither A nor B simultaneously. Anos' source is far exceeds Graham's nothingness[24][25], and is unbound by the Great order and Order of Absurdity. Anos' source will not be A, B, simultaneously A and B, neither A nor B, or even higher logic beyond that)

Spoiler

Nonexistent Physiology (Nature Types 2, 3 & Aspect Type 1, 2, 3 and 4 for his source; Anos' source is fused with [103] Graham's nothingness and he is capable of using the latter's nothingness as a "shield" which converts whatever it interacts with into nothingness, to protect himself or to attack[104]. Anos' source is stated to be even emptier than graham's nothingness. The source remembers the body's outline, and memories are stored in the source. In other words, the source also stores information necessary for one's existence[105])

Spoiler

Nonexistent Physiology (Nature Types 2, 3 & Aspect Type 1, 2, 3 and 4 for his source; Anos' source is fused with [103] Graham's nothingness and he is capable of using the latter's nothingness as a "shield" which converts whatever it interacts with into nothingness, to protect himself or to attack[104]. Anos' source is stated to be even emptier than graham's nothingness. The source remembers the body's outline, and memories are stored in the source. In other words, the source also stores information necessary for one's existence[105])

Not to mention there is an Big Explanation Page exists for Order works. Anyway I hope someone gives a warning regarding his Condensing attitude even though topic has been already discussed many times and accepted in other threads.

Maou Gakuin no Futekigousha Explanation Page

This page will cover Maou Gakuin no Futekigousha's Terminology and Cosmology. This page will use statements from the Maou Gakuin Web Novel and the Maou Gakuin Light Novel. This page should not be considered a complete explanation of the verse's cosmology, since the novel has not yet provided a...

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[Theglassman12]

This is not condescending attitude, he’s literally just arguing against your claims for Anos’ source. Also telling someone to “stop crying” isn’t making you look better than this person, so I advice toning down the behavior.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

This is not condescending attitude, he’s literally just arguing against your claims for Anos’ source. Also telling someone to “stop crying” isn’t making you look better than this person, so I advice toning down the behavior.

You need me to point out how many people adviced him to stop arguing on the same topic which he doens't understand? Also I said that because I got irritated on his constant Downplaying behaviour without making an CRT. So you gonna ignore all of his other things?

 

[Theglassman12]

That’s not the report, you’re reporting him for being condescending, nothing about the comment you linked for him or the following comments afterward was condescending, he’s just arguing about Anos’ hax potency. Unless you just want him banned because the mere idea of people having questions about your franchises is bad which is just stupid on so many levels.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

That’s not the report, you’re reporting him for being condescending, nothing about the comment you linked for him or the following comments afterward was condescending, he’s just arguing about Anos’ hax potency. Unless you just want him banned because the mere idea of people having questions about your franchises is bad which is just stupid on so many levels.

I hope some staff gives him a warning on how our wiki standards works.

Anyway I hope someone gives a warning regarding his Condensing attitude even though topic has been already discussed many times and accepted in other threads.

Glass atleast read what I said

 

[Theglassman12]

And read what I said, nothing about what he said is condescending, which is what your report is based off of, either give the evidence he was being condescending towards others or leave, because you’re just bloating the RVR for no reason.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

And read what I said, nothing about what he said is condescending, which is what your report is based off of, either give the evidence he was being condescending towards others or leave, because you’re just bloating the RVR for no reason.

You can read his and @Noneless21 & others conversation. Where he kept on saying same things.

https://vsbattles.com/threads/top-10-strongest-non-smurfs-for-every-tier-continued-again.147562/post-5549969

 

[ImmortalDread]

Elde, the crux of the matter is that he is getting off topic. I believe you may have misused the term "condescending".

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

So.

This is bad, right?

I just feel I need to emphasize this, if the other report isn’t going anywhere.

 

[Theglassman12]

@Milly_Rocking_Bandit it might be bad, not sure, I’ll let the other staff decide

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Elde, the crux of the matter is that he is getting off topic. I believe you may have misused the term "condescending".

I see my bad. Anyway I should say he is not listing to whoever participating in that thread.

You can read his and @Noneless21 & others conversation. Where he kept on saying same things.

https://vsbattles.com/threads/top-10-strongest-non-smurfs-for-every-tier-continued-again.147562/post-5549969

Even from previous page he keeps on insisting his POV is better than whatever wiki standard accepts. I mean atleast he should make a Downgrade CRT if he Disagrees instead of downplaying things which are already accepted.

 

[Fixxed]

My internet is down for a day, so i just can comment now

So.. how is going to my case?

 

[Theglassman12]

Still in discussion

 

[Antvasima]

It seems like the report about Fixxed was due to some kind of misunderstanding.

 

[Theglassman12]

@Antvasima it's from miscommunication from the staff who agreed to a thread that had nothing to do with Fixxed's arguments, something he was spreading into other versus threads like it was accepted when it's not the case.