Top 10 Strongest Non-Smurfs for every tier continued (again)

[azontr]

Power Mimicry is one of the powers most subject to NLFs, you'll need feats to back up it'd matter on those cases to begin with, namely on it previously covering the same kind of powers, but at that point they'd probably have those powers anyways, so...

There already are feats. Barely anyone on the 4-A list has a power Mujin and Satan logically would be unable to copy.

 

[Georredannea15]

Anyway but Makima needs to move to second place on the low1c list with 6D haxs, AP and existence .

 

[Bobsican]

There already are feats. Barely anyone on the 4-A list has a power Mujin and Satan logically would be unable to copy.

Define "logically"

For example, a character copying type 1 CM doesn't mean they'd have the capability to copy "lesser" powers like, say, soul manip, we've already gone on that for a similar power on that regard.

 

[azontr]

Define "logically"

For example, a character copying type 1 CM doesn't mean they'd have the capability to copy "lesser" powers like, say, soul manip, we've already gone on that for a similar power on that regard.

That's Reactive Evolution, this is Power Mimicry.

And no, I mean like literally. I've read through the profiles for characters 9-5, and they have powers that Mujin and or Satan already have, or have replicated in story. This isn't me no limiting, there literally are feats.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Here is the thread, just look at the posts involving Kama.

https://vsbattles.com/threads/nonexistent-physiology-updating-characters-to-the-new-types.130338/post-4442291

DT never agreed with NEP type 2 honestly he suggested NEP type 1 or 3 with Aspect 2. I guess Kama Profile didn't got updated later onwards. Check the link. He specifically states nature type 1 and possibly type 3.

 

[Reiner04]

Fodder X Alien X for low 1-C position 10

 

[Bobsican]

That's Reactive Evolution, this is Power Mimicry.

And no, I mean like literally. I've read through the profiles for characters 9-5, and they have powers that Mujin and or Satan already have, or have replicated in story. This isn't me no limiting, there literally are feats.

Define "logically"

For example, a character copying type 1 CM doesn't mean they'd have the capability to copy "lesser" powers like, say, soul manip, we've already gone on that for a similar power on that regard.

Reading comprehension smh, note how the comments even compare the situation to Power Mimicry's with no objections on that aspect.

That said, if what you say is true, then I guess it can apply here, but I'd still recommend doing vs threads.

 

[azontr]

Reading comprehension smh, note how the comments even compare the situation to Power Mimicry's with no objections on that aspect.

That said, if what you say is true, then I guess it can apply here, but I'd still recommend doing vs threads.

Your thread doesn't inherently limit the ability you dork, it's just discouraging NLFs. There can still be reasonable, case-by-case discussion as to what can and cannot be copied without falling into NLF territory.

 

[azontr]

Anyways, if I need VS Threads, I'll start making some.

 

[TheGreatJedi13]

yeah like a power mimicry that is capable of mimicking fundamental aspect of reality powers shouldn't have a problem copying a regular fire ability
else that'll just be dumb downplay for its capability

copying other fundamental aspect of reality other than those it has feats of on the otherhand can be questioned

 

[azontr]

yeah like a power mimicry that is capable of mimicking fundamental aspect of reality powers shouldn't have a problem copying a regular fire ability
else that'll just be dumb downplay for its capability

Funny thing is Satan and Mujin can pretty much do both of those things lol.

 

[Expectro2000xxx]

https://vsbattles.com/threads/nonexistent-physiology-updating-characters-to-the-new-types.130338/post-4442291

DT never agreed with NEP type 2 honestly he suggested NEP type 1 or 3 with Aspect 2. I guess Kama Profile didn't got updates later onwards. Check the link. He specifically states nature type 1 and possibly type 3.

And then next page when the discussion was continued he wasn't against Regi proposal of Nature Type 2 and he even said that Aspect Type 5 should be fine for Maxwell as well, but at this point this is derailment of the thread so let's stop.

 

[Georredannea15]

Can I see the Post. Because definitely going by profile don't see why it's NEP type 2. It hardly Qualifies for type 1. Even I spoke with @Dereck03 who is listed as knowledgeable members on NEP. She even said it's not qualified to be type 2 by current standard

Uhh I think you should don't talk about it at all because you're already scaling Anos more than necessary and giving false information and saying you have 6D hax layers.

Kama's NEP2 complies with wiki Standards.

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

Nah #1 and #2 are Anima and Dungeons & Dragons bullshit. I ain't touching those *******.

These types of "games" go hardmode on the hax department for no reason.

 

[Reiner04]

She

I see, then it seems fine.

 

[Deceived3596]

Anima profiles have ass quality, them mfs dogshit

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

And then next page when the discussion was continued he wasn't against Regi proposal of Nature Type 2 and he even said that Aspect Type 5 should be fine for Maxwell as well, but at this point this is derailment of the thread so let's stop.

Sorry bruh look at the comment he quoted and comment @Regidian edited . Clearly @DontTalkDT never agreed with NEP type 2. Yeah aspects 5 sure but Nature type 2. I guess i need to create a new thread but definitely don't want to involve in fate CRTs though.

Also why I feel like it's being manipulated. Don't talk comments was on Jan 19. Quoted @Regidian message then on Jan 24 it got edited and NEP type 2 nature was added in that comment. ?

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

I see, then it seems fine.

Asking best girl is always fine.

 

[azontr]

https://vsbattles.com/threads/satan-vs-garou-battle-for-9th-strongest-non-smurf-4-a.150544/#post-5548525

Made Goofy ahhh match.

 

[TheUnshakableOne]

For example Anos, He has possibly 6D ap and dura but he's NEP2 and TD3 are 5D. The Nasuverse 6D Low1-C characters don't have anything to do for haxes like TD3 and NEP2, but they are superior to Anos and many other characters because they have 6D/ap and hax layers. Of course, this is just an example. Most characters here are either not 6D, or they are not 6D entirely. Only Nasuverse and Makima are fully 6D.

https://vsbattles.com/threads/nasuverse-transduality-part-1-transduality-type-3-for.142657/#post-5158912

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

https://vsbattles.com/threads/nasuverse-transduality-part-1-transduality-type-3-for.142657/#post-5158912

That's smurf though

 

[Bobsican]

Your thread doesn't inherently limit the ability you dork, it's just discouraging NLFs. There can still be reasonable, case-by-case discussion as to what can and cannot be copied without falling into NLF territory.

Yeah, but I did hear that many characters were apparently indirectly nerfed from that revision, but that's besides the point.

yeah like a power mimicry that is capable of mimicking fundamental aspect of reality powers shouldn't have a problem copying a regular fire ability
else that'll just be dumb downplay for its capability

copying other fundamental aspect of reality other than those it has feats of on the otherhand can be questioned

As for this, no, those two powers are too unrelated, that kind of stuff was also discussed and declined, but an argument could still be made if there's more stuff to push that way than matter not existing without the fundamental aspect thing.

 

[azontr]

Yeah, but I did hear that many characters were apparently indirectly nerfed from that revision, but that's besides the point.

They weren't really. People were just extrapolating their capabilities beyond what is logical and as such the characters are no longer perceived as powerful as they previously were.

 

[Bobsican]

Whatever, it doesn't change much.

 

[azontr]

Whatever, it doesn't change much.

Your mom.

 

[TheGreatJedi13]

Your mom is a great person

corrected.

 

[Georredannea15]

https://vsbattles.com/threads/nasuverse-transduality-part-1-transduality-type-3-for.142657/#post-5158912

Do they apply to the low1c key? I mean, Nasuverse already has more hax than that. however it is not found in low1c keys.

But thank you for throwing it anyway

 

[Reiner04]

our mom.

Hmmm

 

[azontr]

We all have the same mom, it seems.

 

[azontr]

https://vsbattles.com/threads/satan-vs-garou-battle-for-9th-strongest-non-smurf-4-a.150544/

Satan just obliterated Garou.

 

[Dereck03]

Kama's NEP2 complies with wiki Standards.

No.

 

[Georredannea15]

No.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

 

[Dereck03]

 

[Georredannea15]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

 

[Dereck03]

 

[Georredannea15]

NOOOOOOOOOO

 

[azontr]

https://vsbattles.com/threads/satan-vs-garou-battle-for-9th-strongest-non-smurf-4-a.150544/

Satan just obliterated Garou.

Whenever possible, Satan should be changed to the 9th strongest.

I'll make more matches for higher spots later.

 

[TheGatememer]

I think Hel (Fire Emblem) should tie with DBH on Spot 8 for 2-A. None of the DBH characters can interact with Type 2 Concepts to my knowledge, and Hel can't permanently put some of the characters down. Unless killing them over and over passively counts as incap.

 

[Noneless21]

Anyway but Makima needs to move to second place on the low1c list with 6D haxs, AP and existence .

For the last time, Makina didn't have plot manip, i would know and donwgrade her if that thing exist because Makina never demonstrate any kind of narrative manipulation

 

[Georredannea15]

For the last time, Makina didn't have plot manip, i would know and donwgrade her if that thing exist because Makina never demonstrate any kind of narrative manipulation

That's not what you want to say. I mean, there are 6D hax layers. (in low1c key)