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Also, King made a good reason as to why 6-B would be better than "likely, 6-B" if you scroll above. But yeah, atm this thread is for scaling admirals/commanders to 6-B.Okay.
We aren't scaling them to Whitebeard, were scaling to pre-timeskip Blackbeard.I am very uneasy with scaling virtually ever high-tiered character from Whitebeard's earthquake fruit. How far above the lower bound of the 6-B tier are Whitebeard's feats anyway?
How comfortable are you with the admirals scaling there?Okay, and how far above the 6-B limit is his earthquake feat?
Blackbeard's is 14.3 TeratonsOkay, and how far above the 6-B limit is his earthquake feat?
Blackbeard is 2x. Baseline is 7 TT, BB is 14TT, so not that farOkay, and how far above the 6-B limit is his earthquake feat?
I'm fine with the yonko commanders being there, but I think the admirals should be ATLEAST Low 6-B. Mainly 6-B.Hmm. Maybe we should place the admirals and the most powerful Yonko commanders at 6-C+ in lack of better options then? I still find the Big Mom and Kaido sky split more reliable than the earthquakes though.
Also I doubt the split would be more reliable since it's performed by 2 yonko's who weren't even trying to their full extent.Hmm. Maybe we should place the admirals and the most powerful Yonko commanders at 6-C+ in lack of better options then? I still find the Big Mom and Kaido sky split more reliable than the earthquakes though.
What makes you think they weren't trying? True, they weren't at their most powerful (no Zoan form for Kaido for that feat), but I doubt they'd hold back against each other.Also I doubt the split would be more reliable since it's performed by 2 yonko's who weren't even trying to their full extent.
Big mom was only using one homie, not nearly to her full extent. So that also shows that. Also, if they were trying, why wouldn't kaido go in his hybrid form? It doesn't make sense because it shows that he was not going to his full extent, let alone he wasn't in his dragon form. You yourself admitted that they weren't at their most powerful form. You answered it for me bro, they weren't trying, since kaido could've tapped into it if he felt like it.What makes you think they weren't trying? True, they weren't at their most powerful (no Zoan form for Kaido for that feat), but I doubt they'd hold back against each other.
Sorry. Head glitch. I mixed up the tier order. "At least Low 6-B" for the admirals and most powerful Yonko commanders is probably fine with our current scaling structure.I'm fine with the yonko commanders being there, but I think the admirals should be ATLEAST Low 6-B. Mainly 6-B.
There isn't a 6-C+ (or Low 6-B) rating for the admirals and others to scale too, there's reliable reasoning to scale them to the version of Blackbeard who performed the featHmm. Maybe we should place the admirals and the most powerful Yonko commanders at 6-C+ in lack of better options then? I still find the Big Mom and Kaido sky split more reliable than the earthquakes though.
Agreed.There isn't a 6-C+ (or Low 6-B) rating for the admirals and others to scale too, there's reliable reasoning to scale them above the version of Blackbeard who performed the feat
Having the other Homies present doesn't multiply her AP significantly. It's still mostly her own physical strength she's using to clash against him.Big mom was only using one homie, not nearly to her full extent. So that also shows that. Also, if they were trying, why wouldn't kaido go in his hybrid form? It doesn't make sense because it shows that he was not going to his full extent, let alone he wasn't in his dragon form.
why wouldn't kaido go in his hybrid form
I'm just curious Ant. Is it because the Admirals are too close to the Yonko? Because an "at least" rating could potentially suffice.Sorry. Head glitch. I mixed up the tier order. "At least Low 6-B" for the admirals and most powerful Yonko commanders is probably fine with our current scaling structure.
That first part is fair, but it's not about trump cards. Kaido's zoan form itself isn't a "trump card" if they were TRYING, that means they would be going at their BEST, not at their minimum, which compromises their abilities fam. Kaido would've gone for the dub regardless, none of them were at their best/full strength, it's so obvious they weren't trying simply based off that.Having the other Homies present doesn't multiply her AP significantly. It's still mostly her own physical strength she's using to clash against him.
Which characters use their trump card immediately in fights?
The magnitude isn't confirmed I believeCould they potentially be scaled to this other Low 6-B Blackbeard calc as well? Like Low 6-B, possibly 6-B
This feat was temporarily declined until we find/found a different magnitude for the feat.Could they potentially be scaled to this other Low 6-B Blackbeard calc as well? Like Low 6-B, possibly 6-B
That one currently isn't valid. It was removed from the OP of the previous thread.Could they potentially be scaled to this other Low 6-B Blackbeard calc as well? Like Low 6-B, possibly 6-B
Yonko: At Least Country level (Scaling off of the 26 Teratons)
That was a casual feat from someone showing off their power and laughing after.26 Teratons is the absolute peak of what the Yonkou have been shown to do (from the strongest one of them too). That is not good grounds for them all being "At least 26 Teratons".
You can definitely argue that. Whitebeard pulled off that Kaishin in the beginning of marineford casually. However, I will agree that not all of them should be atleast 26, and only the OGS like Sengoku,Garp,WB, and Roger, but at the same time I don't mind it.26 Teratons is the absolute peak of what the Yonkou have been shown to do (from the strongest one of them too). That is not good grounds for them all being "At least 26 Teratons".
Agreed. Just 6-B is enough.26 Teratons is the absolute peak of what the Yonkou have been shown to do (from the strongest one of them too). That is not good grounds for them all being "At least 26 Teratons".
PreachOk hold on what... I disappear for a few hours and suddenly this all goes to shit
I 100% agree with 6-B for all of the Yonko
I am willing to agree with 6-B for all the Admirals as well, with at the absolute worse them being “Likely 6-B”
I am also fine with 6-B Marco and Jozu to some extent via scaling to the Admirals
The only thing I took issue with was 6-B Ace because I do not believe he should scale to BB or Akainu at all
But what’s with all this no 6-B Yonko stuff, The perpetuated idea that making them 6-C would be safer is ridiculous, these are the God Tiers and the Yonko and Admirals are the best of the best, it’s when we branch out of that where I start taking issues
Well first damage tried arguing "at least 6-C, likely 6-B" for BM, and Kaido but King already kinda shattered that argument atm, and back to admirals, they feel like it's too weird scaling them that high, and inconsistent.Ok hold on what... I disappear for a few hours and suddenly this all goes to shit
I 100% agree with 6-B for all of the Yonko
I am willing to agree with 6-B for all the Admirals as well, with at the absolute worse them being “Likely 6-B”
I am also fine with 6-B Marco and Jozu to some extent via scaling to the Admirals
The only thing I took issue with was 6-B Ace because I do not believe he should scale to BB or Akainu at all
But what’s with all this no 6-B Yonko stuff, The perpetuated idea that making them 6-C would be safer is ridiculous, these are the God Tiers and the Yonko and Admirals are the best of the best, it’s when we branch out of that where I start taking issues
Not transforming =/= holding back, Luffy can punch someone with all his strength with G2 and 3, G4 existing does not mean he was holding back, same thing goes to Zoans.Big mom was only using one homie, not nearly to her full extent. So that also shows that. Also, if they were trying, why wouldn't kaido go in his hybrid form? It doesn't make sense because it shows that he was not going to his full extent, let alone he wasn't in his dragon form. You yourself admitted that they weren't at their most powerful form. You answered it for me bro, they weren't trying, since kaido could've tapped into it if he felt like it.
But it means they werent using their full power either.Not transforming =/= holding back, Luffy can punch someone with all his strength with G2 and 3, G4 existing does not mean he was holding back, same thing goes to Zoans.
It still means they weren't using their full power, which is my point. Nothing changes that fam, and that doesn't mean Kaido and BM should be "at least 6-C, likely 6-B" horrid downgrade to me.Not transforming =/= holding back, Luffy can punch someone with all his strength with G2 and 3, G4 existing does not mean he was holding back, same thing goes to Zoans.
Where i said they should? I don't agree with 6C Yonkou, and i think this thread wasn't supposed to talk about yonkou anyway.It still means they weren't using their full power, which is my point. Nothing changes that fam, and that doesn't mean Kaido and BM should be "at least 6-C, likely 6-B" horrid downgrade to me.
Mb, I just said that to add on to what I'm trying to supportWhere i said they should? I don't agree with 6C Yonkou, and i think this thread wasn't supposed to talk about yonkou anyway.
So, just to go back to Ace, do you think that Ace is roughly over half as strong as Whitebeard is?@Antvasima I don't think any of us besides damage agree with anything below 6-B atm.