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One Piece God-High Tiers Revision
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Also, King made a good reason as to why 6-B would be better than "likely, 6-B" if you scroll above. But yeah, atm this thread is for scaling admirals/commanders to 6-B.
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We aren't scaling them to Whitebeard, were scaling to pre-timeskip Blackbeard.
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How comfortable are you with the admirals scaling there?
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Blackbeard's is 14.3 Teratons
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Blackbeard is 2x. Baseline is 7 TT, BB is 14TT, so not that far
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Hmm. Maybe we should place the admirals and the most powerful Yonko commanders at Island level+ in lack of better options then? I still find the Big Mom and Kaido sky split more reliable than the earthquakes though.
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I'm fine with the yonko commanders being there, but I think the admirals should be ATLEAST Low 6-B. Mainly 6-B.
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Also I doubt the split would be more reliable since it's performed by 2 yonko's who weren't even trying to their full extent.
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What makes you think they weren't trying? True, they weren't at their most powerful (no Zoan form for Kaido for that feat), but I doubt they'd hold back against each other.
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Big mom was only using one homie, not nearly to her full extent. So that also shows that. Also, if they were trying, why wouldn't kaido go in his hybrid form? It doesn't make sense because it shows that he was not going to his full extent, let alone he wasn't in his dragon form. You yourself admitted that they weren't at their most powerful form. You answered it for me bro, they weren't trying, since kaido could've tapped into it if he felt like it.
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Sorry. Head glitch. I mixed up the tier order. "At least Low 6-B" for the admirals and most powerful Yonko commanders is probably fine with our current scaling structure.
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There isn't a 6-C+ (or Low 6-B) rating for the admirals and others to scale too, there's reliable reasoning to scale them to the version of Blackbeard who performed the feat
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Agreed.
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Having the other Homies present doesn't multiply her AP significantly. It's still mostly her own physical strength she's using to clash against him.
Which characters use their trump card immediately in fights?
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I'm just curious Ant. Is it because the Admirals are too close to the Yonko? Because an "at least" rating could potentially suffice.
The Admirals are stated to be superior to someone who pulled off a 14 Teraton feat, so they could be country level. The Yonko have a 26 Teraton feat. What about an "At least Country level" for the God tiers then?
Because everyone here agrees that there's too close of a gap, but we have no other feats to scale to.
Yonko: At Least Country level (Scaling off of the 26 Teratons)
Admirals and those comparable: Country level (Scaling off of the 14 Teraton feat)
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That first part is fair, but it's not about trump cards. Kaido's zoan form itself isn't a "trump card" if they were TRYING, that means they would be going at their BEST, not at their minimum, which compromises their abilities fam. Kaido would've gone for the dub regardless, none of them were at their best/full strength, it's so obvious they weren't trying simply based off that.
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The magnitude isn't confirmed I believe
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This feat was temporarily declined until we find/found a different magnitude for the feat.
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That one currently isn't valid. It was removed from the OP of the previous thread.
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26 Teratons is the absolute peak of what the Yonkou have been shown to do (from the strongest one of them too). That is not good grounds for them all being "At least 26 Teratons".
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That was a casual feat from someone showing off their power and laughing after.
I don't say we should drop everybody below because it "looks bad" and it "doesn't make sense", we can just say that they're at least as strong as that specific feat.
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You can definitely argue that. Whitebeard pulled off that Kaishin in the beginning of marineford casually. However, I will agree that not all of them should be atleast 26, and only the OGS like Sengoku,Garp,WB, and Roger, but at the same time I don't mind it.
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Ok hold on what... I disappear for a few hours and suddenly this all goes to shit
I 100% agree with 6-B for all of the Yonko
I am willing to agree with 6-B for all the Admirals as well, with at the absolute worse them being “Likely 6-B”
I am also fine with 6-B Marco and Jozu to some extent via scaling to the Admirals
The only thing I took issue with was 6-B Ace because I do not believe he should scale to BB or Akainu at all
But what’s with all this no 6-B Yonko stuff, The perpetuated idea that making them 6-C would be safer is ridiculous, these are the God Tiers and the Yonko and Admirals are the best of the best, it’s when we branch out of that where I start taking issues
I 100% agree with 6-B for all of the Yonko
I am willing to agree with 6-B for all the Admirals as well, with at the absolute worse them being “Likely 6-B”
I am also fine with 6-B Marco and Jozu to some extent via scaling to the Admirals
The only thing I took issue with was 6-B Ace because I do not believe he should scale to BB or Akainu at all
But what’s with all this no 6-B Yonko stuff, The perpetuated idea that making them 6-C would be safer is ridiculous, these are the God Tiers and the Yonko and Admirals are the best of the best, it’s when we branch out of that where I start taking issues
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Agreed. Just 6-B is enough.
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Preach
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Well first damage tried arguing "at least 6-C, likely 6-B" for BM, and Kaido but King already kinda shattered that argument atm, and back to admirals, they feel like it's too weird scaling them that high, and inconsistent.
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Not transforming =/= holding back, Luffy can punch someone with all his strength with G2 and 3, G4 existing does not mean he was holding back, same thing goes to Zoans.
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But it means they werent using their full power either.
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It still means they weren't using their full power, which is my point. Nothing changes that fam, and that doesn't mean Kaido and BM should be "at least 6-C, likely 6-B" horrid downgrade to me.
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Don't we actually accept those as strength amplifiers though? He may hit them with all the strength he can in G2, but the cap for G4 is higher, no?
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Where i said they should? I don't agree with 6C Yonkou, and i think this thread wasn't supposed to talk about yonkou anyway.
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Mb, I just said that to add on to what I'm trying to support
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@Antvasima I don't think any of us besides damage agree with anything below 6-B atm, if anything 6-C "just to be safe" is inconsistent to the yonkos.
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So, just to go back to Ace, do you think that Ace is roughly over half as strong as Whitebeard is?
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(No disrespect to anybody, but) as it stands, we have no valid reason to scale them any lower than they already scale.
We're gotten the scaling flat and there's nothing that countered it in the story that hasn't already been tackled.
I have/see no reason to put them any lower.
We're gotten the scaling flat and there's nothing that countered it in the story that hasn't already been tackled.
I have/see no reason to put them any lower.
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