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also, the mystic eyes of death are heavily implied to be able to be undone by rizo’s curse of time, which is purely time reversal.
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ah, thanksNormal users can't tag people, so you should just respond to their post or ask on their profile.
We have no idea what his time curse and it CAN easily surpass the second magic.also, the mystic eyes of death are heavily implied to be able to be undone by rizo’s curse of time, which is purely time reversal.
soyou think his curse is above true magic? the highest forms of manipulation in their category? wow, amazing,altrouge must really be strong to keep someone like that under her controlTime reversal can work all the way to the abstract level, so this doesn't mean much. The regeneration of ALL Dead Apostles is indeed basic time reversal already, and it cannot stop MEoDP by any means, even prior to reaching its peak. On top of there being no actual evidence that Vaal's curse is time-reversal to being with. It could be countless of high tier forms of time manipulation.
I already obliterated your arguments and had my fill of entertainment with you clowns, I just addressed this one point since it was finally something new. Granted, completely deranged, but still new.
I'll only reply to other users and clarify their doubts stemmed from your lies now.
Straw man and we don’t even know how superordinate Vale is it’s likely he is a physical fighter with certain abstract abilities that counter full on abstract manipulators like Kishima Nanaya etc also true magic and magecrafts distinctions are illusory at best in Tsukihime worlds due to Unified Language being a thing and it is on the same rank/level as MEODP ie can extend to all of creation at it's best.soyou think his curse is above true magic? the highest forms of manipulation in their category? wow, amazing,altrouge must really be strong to keep someone like that under her control
Straw man and we don’t even know how superordinate Vale is it’s likely he is a physical fighter with certain abstract abilities that counter full on abstract manipulators like Kishima Nanaya etc also true magic and magecrafts distinctions are illusory at best in Tsukihime worlds due to Unified Language being a thing.
Though if you ask Mr Vale probably has some control over True Chaos but that’s a stretch and isn’t confirmed but makes sense from what we know
soyou think his curse is above true magic? the highest forms of manipulation in their category? wow, amazing,altrouge must really be strong to keep someone like that under her control
5 magics, are the last 5 tasks humanity deemed impossible. this means that anything else is reproducible by magecraft or by some other method available to humanity. and as we know from knk, all 5 magics have something to do with time or space manipulation, and are the highest mysteries. you could argue that his time curse is a subset of an existing magic, like the fifth or second.
Literal Fanfiction since Mahoyo implies that the first magic changed everything at the beginning of reality and no before you mention it, Alice or your beloved Yumina have nothing to do with the first magic and secondly, the third magic is the materialization of the abstract soul in to a tangible form and gives you immortality and we have no idea what the fourth can do and the fifth cannot be realted to time as we know that the second's domain is time and the fifth replicated it on a whim likely meaning it has something to do with entropy which is mentioned in the vn and manipulating reality on all aspects not just time etc. Also, there are only five KNOWN magic's and there can be many more true magic's that humanity may have not discovered or known about in present etc.and as we know from knk, all 5 magics have something to do with time or space manipulation,
this is literally said in the series itself.Literal Fanfiction since Mahoyo implies that the first magic changed everything at the beginning of reality and no before you mention it, Alice or your beloved Yumina have nothing to do with the first magic and secondly, the third magic is the materialization of the abstract soul in to a tangible form and gives you immortality and we have no idea what the fourth can do and the fifth cannot be realted to time as we know that the second's domain is time and the fifth replicated it on a whim likely meaning it has something to do with entropy which is mentioned in the vn and manipulating reality on all aspects not just time etc. Also, there are only five KNOWN magic's and there can be many more true magic's that humanity may have not discovered or known about in present etc.
that’s WITH primate murder, and even then, KT says “it could be said”, and “in a way”,not in general,just “in a way”Indeed, that's why she can manipulate Gaia down to an abstract level, turned Wallachia into an abstract phenomena, and is stated to rival Type-Moon himself, who is so powerful that Zelretch needed to permanently weaken himself to beat him while he underestimated him. Ik this is unfathomable to you because you think only Arcueid is allowed to be strong, but this is really just a new case of "you just have to accept other people can fight Arcueid".
Furthermore, there are no details on this curse. For all we know, it could be an ability that can only be used defensively, or only apply under specific circumstances. Regardless, this is nothing to Altrouge.
Carry on.
i think soul manipulation by absorptionWhat abilities would grant absorbing one's soul in Nasuverse? I'm thinking of the ones Servant Physiology has by interacting with soul. Anything else?
fate peak fake > weird KNK agenda that ruins the point of the series.I can see you like to spam posts a lot
fate peak fake > weird KNK agenda that ruins the point of the series.
The point of the series is to enjoy it. Where characters scale to hardly affects the writing that drew us to the series in the first place.
Scaling is fun and all, but there's more to enjoy in a series than just the tiers
The point of the series is to enjoy it. Where characters scale to hardly affects the writing that drew us to the series in the first place.
Scaling is fun and all, but there's more to enjoy in a series than just the tiers
even if this was true (it isn’t) we’ve showed many people in KNK related communities, and even translators on KNK related projects, and ALL of them have went “what the **** is this guy talking about lmao”You know literally nothing about KnK. In fact, literally everything you have said about it break the narrative. Please
Good writing is more then just how well you execute themes and characters. It is about keeping consistent power scaling and having it make sense of how beats who etc and also keeping the same worldview in the stories you write as having many stories with different messages is completely incoherent and nonsensical etc.The point of the series is to enjoy it. Where characters scale to hardly affects the writing that drew us to the series in the first place.
Scaling is fun and all, but there's more to enjoy in a series than just the tiers
Neco has a wierd KNK hate sink agenda and a wierd fate/tsukhime supremacist agenda too. Which doesn't matter since Araya>all of fate and tsukihime and the narrtive of KNK would fall down if this wasn't the caseBtw, to anyone reading. Neco's point about the curse of time being an anti feat for MEoDP is automatically invalid since that's about Tohno, not Ryougi. And Tohno was unable to kill abstract things in MB and KT. Ryougi on the other hand, has both statement and showings about her being able to kill the abstract. That's why she is stated to be several ranks above him as MEoDP user after all.
Btw, to anyone reading. Neco's point about the curse of time being an anti feat for MEoDP is automatically invalid since that's about Tohno, not Ryougi. And Tohno was unable to kill abstract things in MB and KT. Ryougi on the other hand, has both statement and showings about her being able to kill the abstract. That's why she is stated to be several ranks above him as MEoDP user after all.
Yeah, but the average person isn't watching Naruto because he's stronger than Otsutsuki Clan Member#8725, they're gonna watch because of the story. The strength and balancing of characters is important to the story, but it shouldn't be the main focus.Good writing is more then just how well you execute themes and characters. It is about keeping consistent power scaling and having it make sense of how beats who etc and also keeping the same worldview in the stories you write as having many stories with different messages is completely incoherent and nonsensical etc.
toukos box demon, a regular ass demon,not even a true demon, could defeat araya and absorb the ogawa complexNeco has a wierd KNK hate sink agenda and a wierd fate/tsukhime supremacist agenda too. Which doesn't matter since Araya>all of fate and tsukihime and the narrtive of KNK would fall down if this wasn't the case
And? all that means is that the demon may have been able to defeat Araya also it had metaphysical and abstract hax to counter Araya's barriers and reality warping which was localized since it could swallow Araya's complex which had an infinite universe inside it etc. Also KNK Araya is still above Touko massively in physical powertoukos box demon, a regular ass demon,not even a true demon, could defeat araya and absorb the ogawa complex
come on.
The only one coping is you who copy pastes an insane lunatics talking points and same person thinks GAIA>ROOT btw and besides who cares if you aren't him you might as well be since you talk the same have the same grammar etc and MEODP is indeed a reminder that everything is created by and will be ended by the ONE (The Root) and the user not being able to kill things depends on the practice and potency of the eyes and also Tohno could not get rid of the TATARI phenomena and in Maiko Yamse's case he only killed her as a person not the chaos she was becoming and again, he can only kill concreate entities which is why he never pulled off a feat in his tohno self in KT and MB of idk killing the law of gravity by thought which is what Ryougi did to Araya's prison etc. regardless not wasting any more time with silly fate fans who love to wank an nonsensical verse like fate but downplay actually coherent and functional stories like KNK etc.I won’t waste anymore time explaining who I am and not,but cope i guess
regardless,the actual potency of the death is the same, the difference in them is the perception, although this difference thins out.
also,what? tohno kills the concept of maiko, and kills the ultimate point of 666 existences. he also kills information in melty
see this is why I don't even bother arguing with Marshadow or anyone of these two guys here. Gaia>Root/Void Shiki is just something I don't understand how it came to be because what Shiki even said doesn't insinuate her being weaker than the counter force.The only one coping is you who copy pastes an insane lunatics talking points and same person thinks GAIA>ROOT btw
there is no difference in potency, only perception.And? all that means is that the demon may have been able to defeat Araya also it had metaphysical and abstract hax to counter Araya's barriers and reality warping which was localized since it could swallow Araya's complex which had an infinite universe inside it etc. Also KNK Araya is still above Touko massively in physical power
The only one coping is you who copy pastes an insane lunatics talking points and same person thinks GAIA>ROOT btw and besides who cares if you aren't him you might as well be since you talk the same have the same grammar etc and MEODP is indeed a reminder that everything is created by and will be ended by the ONE (The Root) and the user not being able to kill things depends on the practice and potency of the eyes and also Tohno could not get rid of the TATARI phenomena and in Maiko Yamse's case he only killed her as a person not the chaos she was becoming and again, he can only kill concreate entities which is why he never pulled off a feat in his tohno self in KT and MB of idk killing the law of gravity by thought which is what Ryougi did to Araya's prison etc. regardless not wasting any more time with silly fate fans who love to wank an nonsensical verse like fate but downplay actually coherent and functional stories like KNK etc.
what’s that? not sure I’ll be able to help much there, unless you need translation workAnyways, yall should help out when I make the FatexGrand Summoners profiles. I'm cooking up a lot.
not sure how araya > ultimate ones came to be,but it exists.see this is why I don't even bother arguing with Marshadow or anyone of these two guys here. Gaia>Root/Void Shiki is just something I don't understand how it came to be because what Shiki even said doesn't insinuate her being weaker than the counter force.
Grand Summoners is a game that's having another collab with Prisma Illya in a few months.what’s that? not sure I’ll be able to help much there, unless you need translation work
ah,Grand Summoners is a game that's having another collab with Prisma Illya in a few months.
KNK is mainly about interpersonal relations,not funny monks blowing up multiple continents with a single punch and killing ultimate ones.
pretending knk isn’t a lowscale urban centered work
not funny monks
Despite the disdain, she didn't hate the mage. Araya Souren had lived too long, becoming a concept. If she had taken a different path, she could have ended up like him—a being that was no longer human, merely a manifestation of an abstract theory. - Kara no Kyoukai Chapter 5
The mage's discourse continues."As a reference, I do not die. My origin is 'suspension'. Someone who has woken to their origin becomes ruled by that origin itself. Someone who has already stopped - how can you kill him?" Shiki doesn't reply.
Those who awaken to their origin are bound by their origin. I see. My impulse was Stillness" The magus said this, not to anyone, but in irony. - Kara no Kyoukai Chapter 5
No, it wasn't magecraft. A mystery that used a twisted dimension of this level was already no longer on the level of magecraft.
This was --- that was right, a mystery of a province unreachable with today's knowledge. There was no doubt that this was an act of absolute power that human hands could not reach, magic. - Kara no Kyoukai Chapter 5
A temple of Taiji. It could be called the artificial manifestation of the inner landscape of Araya Souren, who did not have a Reality Marble. - Garden of sinners Pamphlet: Kara no Kyoukai Settings Glossary
makes many of the conflicts meaningless.
even if this was true (it isn’t) we’ve showed many people in KNK related communities, and even translators on KNK related projects, and ALL of them have went “what the **** is this guy talking about lmao”
Yeah, but the average person isn't watching Naruto because he's stronger than Otsutsuki Clan Member#8725, they're gonna watch because of the story. The strength and balancing of characters is important to the story, but it shouldn't be the main focus.
—That is Shiki's capability. Much like Asagami Fujino, she perceives a unique channel in which things unseen by others become visible. When she "looks" at them, she is seeing a glimpse of the architect's floor-plan for all reality. That is the "swirl of the Root." - Kara no Kyoukai Epilogue
Would you believe me if I said I’m utterly exhausted from trying to instill common sense in these individuals? It feels like talking to a wall.see this is why I don't even bother arguing with Marshadow or anyone of these two guys here. Gaia>Root/Void Shiki is just something I don't understand how it came to be because what Shiki even said doesn't insinuate her being weaker than the counter force.