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Can someone give me a summary here? I see a lot being discussed and since I'm an outsider to this verse, I'd prefer something more direct.
 
Can someone give me a summary here? I see a lot being discussed and since I'm an outsider to this verse, I'd prefer something more direct.
I think the conclusion we came to was that this thread should be closed for now. OP got banned, and we want to make a new thread later to lay out arguments in a more coherent manner (and to address other profiles too).

But if I'm wrong about, feel free to correct me.
 
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