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MCU Phase 4 General Discussion Thread

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Marvel losing pretty all their popular character outside of hulk Thor x men and the villian
Just realizated
If they fail we will only have 2 og avengers 😭
 
Lonkitt said:
Honestly, the estate might just sell it back to Marvel for a billion or more
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Very possible but there's also the chance they don't but I just as equally if anything don't want any of these characters to potentially get open sourced if they lose this lawsuit because literally anyone could tamper with these characters in film, comic, or any other media and it'd honestly be hell for any wiki's too as all versions would be just as valid as something that's considered someone fan fiction today and if you didn't include it you could very well catch flak especially if one of these works have some traction behind it
 
TheSensingWizard said:
Tbh The Living Tribunal should appear in the MCU if the next movie comes out and their will be no Living Tribunal? I will throw my cinema chair through the screen.
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There'll probably be no Living tribunal at all in eternals as the tribunal isn't relevant to the story of the movie
 
So I read through the article and here's a explanation.

The estate owners are salty that they don't get any money from the characters they helped make, they're throwing a hissy fit threatening to do this, but it was legally covered in a contract when they worked at Marvel. Most likely they just want money (TL;DR)

The explanation is that they created these characters, but since they were employed by Marvel to do so, the rights (at least partially) belong to Marvel as they were hired and provided the necessary tools to create them, thus they have a legal right to use these characters. The copyright duration lasts for 56 years (Under the Copyright Act of 1976) and "termination could be taken into effect at any time within a five-year window if the works were created before 1978".

Spider-Man, created in 1962 has his copyright termination window from 2018 to 2023, so that's why this has been brought up. Another similar case was brought up but it was settled on a cash agreement before going to court. I should also note comments from them stating that they've only received "Thanks" and a small token gesture of $5000, to which they rejected on the fact it was considered a joke to them. It's unlikely that they'll tear down any Marvel projects and most likely will receive a hefty cash sum to shut them up.
 
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PsychoWarper said:
Honestly I hope thats what happens, that this is settled out of court and dropped, they deserve money for these characters but I also dont want Marvel to lose them.
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Technically they already have been compensated when they worked at Marvel. They just want to get all that $$$ because the characters are making a lot of money right now.
 
Colonel_Krukov said:
So I read through the article and here's a explanation.

The estate owners are salty that they don't get any money from the characters they helped make, they're throwing a hissy fit threatening to do this, but it was legally covered in a contract when they worked at Marvel. Most likely they just want money (TL;DR)

The explanation is that they created these characters, but since they were employed by Marvel to do so, the rights (at least partially) belong to Marvel as they were hired and provided the necessary tools to create them, thus they have a legal right to use these characters. The copyright duration lasts for 56 years (Under the Copyright Act of 1976) and "termination could be taken into effect at any time within a five-year window if the works were created before 1978".

Spider-Man, created in 1962 has his copyright termination window from 2018 to 2023, so that's why this has been brought up. Another similar case was brought up but it was settled on a cash agreement before going to court. I should also note comments from them stating that they've only received "Thanks" and a small token gesture of $5000, to which they rejected on the fact it was considered a joke to them. It's unlikely that they'll tear down any Marvel projects and most likely will receive a hefty cash sum to shut them up.
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"Now comes new litigation, which figures to take up where earlier ones left off. Marvel’s suit calls the latest controversy “virtually identical circumstances” to Kirby’s. If the plaintiffs win, Disney expects to at least hold onto at least a share of character rights as co-owners. The studio would have to share profits with the others. Additionally, the termination provisions of copyright law only apply in the United States, allowing Disney to continue to control and profit from foreign exploitation."



Here's the exactly quote I also just did a full read through upon further inspection it's not as bad as it seems
 
It's all driven by greed in some way and the heirs do want profits to flow through them but geez while I understand the way this situation was portrayed and the way they went about it at least could've been much better
 
I mean, he probably expanded himself throughout the universe and probably has dominion of most of it. Makes sense if he's now expanding the borders to other universes.
 
Reverse Flash: All this controversy with the rights of several Marvel characters it was me Marvel fans, I'm going to sabotage your verse because (negative) Speed-force woop woop!.

Jokes aside this is giving me flashbacks of Ken Penders suing Archie Comics and it didn't end well...

Kinda iconic we're rooting for the multi-billion dollar totally not evil corporate empire to win.
 
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