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They couldn't, it's kind of impossible to fully stop him from doing it without seastone or the Yami Yami no Mi.
And someone that has a Haki Potency ≥ Marco's would be able to negate that healing to some extent as shown by Garp's attack not healing post-marineford, and how Marco's injuries from the Onigashima raid still not being healed despite over a week passing
this guy summed it up pretty well
True!Anyways, Marco doesn't really have anything to put Sanji down, while Sanji has a counter to pretty much everything Marco can do offensively and defensively.
These are all from injuries to his head, which means his head is harder to heal. I imagine that'd be the case because if he can just regen every part of his body he's practically invincible if you don't have the Yami Yami or Seastone.And someone that has a Haki Potency ≥ Marco's would be able to negate that healing to some extent as shown by Garp's attack not healing post-marineford, and how Marco's injuries from the Onigashima raid still not being healed despite over a week passing
For like 20 minutes at most before before being put down without giving any injuries to King.I mean it isn't like Marco was capable of keeping up with King
Based on?a fire user who has flames more intense than Sanji's
Yeah, "put down" ( FYI, that's a term commonly used to refer to an animal that got executed due to being sick with no cure usually, meanwhile Marco was just knocked out or really winded from his fights ) after he had to spam his flames all around the room to heal people, whilst fighting 2 commanders.For like 20 minutes at most before before being put down without giving any injuries to King.
Based on?
Marco is lucky King didn't attack Marco while he was exhausted, which Sanji definitely would do.Yeah, "put down" ( FYI, that's a term commonly used to refer to an animal that got executed due to being sick with no cure usually, meanwhile Marco was just knocked out or really winded from his fights )
Where does it mention heat?
I'm done, this mf is trolling me rnWhere does it mention heat?
Well that was obvious that it looked like Magma, but did it feel like it? That's what Zoro was talking about. The ambient heat of the attack.Zoro could've easily be talking about the way it looks, as he never even mentioned heat.
Based on?but did it feel like it? That's what Zoro was talking about.
Based on him literally saying the heat is like magma. If it wasn't, and he could cut it, then he wouldn't have dodged it.Based on?
Where??Based on him literally saying the heat is like magma
It would have taxed his energy when he performed the technique, but afterwards the flames themselves were being maintained by the ice oni victims own stamina.It still likely drained Marco's energy since he was the one actually using those flames.
I'm not falling for this one again.When did he mention heat?
Why does this matter? It's not like he'd use that attack in a 1v1 like this.It would have taxed his energy when he performed the technique, but afterwards the flames themselves were being maintained by the ice oni victims own stamina.
I want you to circle where it mentioned heat. If you can't do that, or even provide a good reason as to why it heat fits in here, then that argument is null.I'm not falling for this one again.
I'll do you one better:I want you to circle where it mentioned heat. If you can't do that, or even provide a good reason as to why it heat fits in here, then that argument is null.
Mentioning the flame's likeness to Magma isn't enough to say that he was referring specifically to heat.Why mention it's like magma if he wasn't referring to the heat?
?Why even make it look like magma if it isn't actually like it?
Tempest?We need the King in here.
What is the point of him saying it's like Magma if he wasn't talking about the heat? It was very obvious that it looked like magma, we aren't that dumb that we need Oda to spoonfeed us to the point of him even describing the looks of something.Mentioning the flame's likeness to Magma isn't enough to say that he was referring specifically to heat.
So basically what I'm hearing is headcannon?What is the point of him saying it's like Magma if he wasn't talking about the heat? It was very obvious that it looked like magma, we aren't that dumb that we need Oda to spoonfeed us to the point of him even describing the looks of something.
Luffy arguably has a higher resistance than Zoro, and he also touched Kaidou directly.So basically what I'm hearing is headcannon?
Also, just to kill your argument even more, this is what a reaction to ambient heat looks like, not whatever Zoro did.
Maybe it's actually magma.Why mention it's like magma if he wasn't referring to the heat? Why even make it look like magma if it isn't actually like it?
1: More skilled? Highly doubt it. Marco has been a pirate for considerably longer than Sanji and has fought the Admirals and people in Roger's crew, so he has more experience and skill.Sanji:
Marco:
- More skilled
- Has hotter flames than Marco has dealt with before
- Can negate his regen to an extent
- Is faster
- Arguably stronger
- Has better Kenbun usage feats
- Can regen from Marco's shockwaves
- Has better stamina
- Undying thistle, which he likely won't use in this situation can block any of Sanji's attacks
- Can blow away Sanji's flames (although Sanji can just put it back on his leg again faster than Marco can blow it away since hes much slower than Sanji)
- Has better mobility
That helps my point.Maybe it's actually magma.
Experience ≠ Skill. All your arguments throughout this entire thread is based on speculation and headcanon. Do those people have any skill feats at all, let alone skill feats surpassing Sanji's? No.1: More skilled? Highly doubt it. Marco has been a pirate for considerably longer than Sanji and has fought the Admirals and people in Roger's crew, so he has more experience and skill.
Sanji can easily counter him2: Marco has clashed with and stopped Akainu before, so Sanji's flames are not a huge issue to him.
It literally is?but it won't fully stop it so I don't think that's worth mentioning
OkI'm not sure he's faster, Marco was able to react to people like the Admirals, and again, people from Roger's crew. Meanwhile Sanji still got tagged by Queen a few times.
Ok5: Pretty sure someone said Marco was able to match/clash with 1 Homie Big Mom, who is way stronger than Queen as she put him down in 1 hit without Homies or Haki.
Shockwaves in One Piece attack from the insides, destroying bones and organs, which Sanji has regenerated from before already.7: How??
Not as high as Sanji's. Also, the only part of that process that took stamina from him was the actual activation of the ability. The flames working ran off of the alliance's stamina not him. Why do I have to keep repeating things?I don't really see that. Marco's stamina is actually a little high when he isn't spreading his flames for everyone to heal off of.
He never has.Also you don't know if he wouldn't use Undying Thistle in a 1v1
Someone saying that it "maybe is magma" isn't an argument, isn't proven, is just speculation. It does not help a point.That helps my point.
Yeah fair point.Idk why King's magma flames are relevant here though, he never used them against Marco.
I'm not really here to have a shit slinging contest lol. You won't even accept the fact that Marco has more evidence that he's more skilled/experienced than Sanji, and you're bringing up things like Sanji countering Bon Clay, who doesn't have Observation Haki nor is he nearly as fast or perceptive as Marco.Experience ≠ Skill. All your arguments throughout this entire thread is based on speculation and headcanon. Do those people have any skill feats at all, let alone skill feats surpassing Sanji's? No.
Sanji can easily counter him
It literally is?
Ok
Ok
Shockwaves in One Piece attack from the insides, destroying bones and organs, which Sanji has regenerated from before already.
Not as high as Sanji's. Also, the only part of that process that took stamina from him was the actual activation of the ability. The flames working ran off of the alliance's stamina not him. Why do I have to keep repeating things?
He never has.
Someone saying that it "maybe is magma" isn't an argument, isn't proven, is just speculation. It does not help a point.
Again, skill ≠ experience. What is the evidence that Marco is more skilled than Sanji?You won't even accept the fact that Marco has more evidence that he's more skilled/experienced than Sanji
Not an argument.Also Sanji's "regeneration" is, to quote Eseseso, " like the Berserker Armor from Berserk ", and probably won't work if Marco uses a shockwave on his head,
How am I wanking him??Not going to lie, I like Sanji, and I don't blame you for liking him too, but you gotta stop with the obsessive wank Kachon.
I can't find the struggle.Sanji struggled to defeat Hybrid Queen
Sanji did worse to Queen than Big Mom did to Queen.Marco clashed with 1-Homie Big Mom evenly, and was equal to Zoan King (who was equal to Start-of-Fight Buso Zoro, who one-shot Killer who took hits from Big Mom).
The fact that Sanji required a while to take Queen down while BM easily two-shot himI can't find the struggle.
Because Queen was exhausted from fighting Sanji and Marco, not to mention that Sanji's Ifrit Jambe beatdown was aided by Queen being an absolute moron and getting distracted at the worst possible moment.Sanji did worse to Queen than Big Mom did to Queen.
I've brought up valid evidence as to why Marco can tag Sanji, why he's as powerful as him, and why he can neg his flames.Your entire arguments (if you can even call them that) are complete bullshit that you pulled out of nowhere. You keep bringing up things that are either irrelevent to your argument (keep repeating skill=experience and bringing up King's flames). I want you to concisely list Marco's wincons, how Sanji has no answer to them, and how Marco would win instead of claiming I'm wanking.
I don't think I've even seen you post a scan this entire debate. If you're going to keep up with this brainrotting excuse for a debate, I'll just leave. This is ridiculous.