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And yes, this shows just how dire LoL is in need of revisions, and considering how long each region takes it's gonna take a long ass time for LoL to be where it should be lol
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No, I want the scaling used for their AP sections to be easy to understand and not require links to 5 different profiles that you don’t need to click. It seems wholly unnecessary when you can just link the important ones. Also it becomes circular since they all scale to the same calc, so it’s “Caitlyn’s gun scales to Jayce who scales to Caitlyn’s gun.”So you Don't want the scaling clear? would you like to have to be force-fed the scaling chain on the waves of matches that are probably coming because of Death Battle? Because yes, unfortunately the scaling chain actually does have a hiccup in Jinx(And literally everyone else in Piltover and Zaun) scaling to a character who scales to ol Maokai and a lot of the "Low 7-C"s of the verse, you may thank scaling to Miss Fortune and Griffin for that. so I'm afraid we cannot be accurate if you truncate the AP section too much
Oh? What about Maokai's 19 or thereabouts Megatons? That's a called feat for a character they scale to. If the scaling chain is on the profiles it actually becomes more simple, because suddenly the few people who actually support LoL don't have to grab it every single time a scaling chain is needed and people can see where the characters scale without having to dive into the verse page of Doom.No, I want the scaling used for their AP sections to be easy to understand and not require links to 5 different profiles that you don’t need to click. It seems wholly unnecessary when you can just link the important ones. Also it becomes circular since they all scale to the same calc, so it’s “Caitlyn’s gun scales to Jayce who scales to Caitlyn’s gun.”
Literally just the statement of “Has hex tech crystals which make it comparable to Amumu who did this” and “Superior to MF’s guns which can harm Viego” is enough of a justification. Anything extra is just unnecessary, which is fine for one or two examples, but you’re trying to shove an entire scaling chain into every single characters section for no reason. They scale to what Amumu and Viego could do, it’s very simple.
If the feat matters to the scaling chain, put it in. If it doesn’t, don’t put it in. So that’s already 3 feats that make them 7-B, why do you need to link other profiles or write a bunch of sentences further justifying it?Oh? What about Maokai's 19 or thereabouts Megatons? That's a called feat for a character they scale to. If the scaling chain is on the profiles it actually becomes more simple, because suddenly the few people who actually support LoL don't have to grab it every single time a scaling chain is needed and people can see where the characters scale without having to dive into the verse page of Doom.
Maoki: Did this feat, scales to Miss FortuneMaokai, Hecarim, Viego, Yasuo, Illaoi, Braum, and Pyke. They all have scaling within the Piltover and Zaun feats off of Griffin and Miss Fortune. They aren't in Piltover nor Zaun. You catch my drift? You smell what I'm stepping in chief?
It’s not that complicated. They scale to hurting each other and some of them have 7-B feats. So just find who scales to what, who can hurt who, then link their profiles in a non-circular chain that gets them all to the calcs required.You see, the issue is, you want to try and make something that frankly is very fucky and complex, simple. Normally, something good to try and do. Here? We have characters scaling outside of a bubble of scaling. That needs to be mentioned, not ignored for convenience.
Ionia, Freljord, Bilgewater. At least try and check which circles of hell each of those characters are in.Maoki: Did this feat, scales to Miss Fortune
Hecarim: Scales to Miss Fortune
Viego: Did this feat, superior to Miss Fortune, can withstand shots from Hextech Pistols
Yasuo: Comparable to Miss Fortune, can harm Viego
Illaoi: Comparable to Miss Fortune, can harm Viego
Braum: Comparable to Miss Fortune, can harm Viego
Pyke: Comparable to Miss Fortune, can harm Viego
Now this is oversimplified, but this is all any of them need to be 7-B. The Hextech Pistols now link up to every single profile that can hurt Viego.
Bro, I’ve been entrenched in the league lore since season 2. Do not recite the dark magic to me, I was there before it was written.Ionia, Freljord, Bilgewater. At least try and check which circles of hell each of those characters are in.
Yes, and all of them need their own scaling sorted out, that's my issue.Bro, I’ve been entrenched in the league lore since season 2. Do not recite the dark magic to me, I was there before it was written.
Those characters all scale to each other from Ruined King which is canon.
I will do it if you require the assistance. It’s not the first time I’ve helped in a verse overhaul and it won’t be the last.And by the way, we'd have to revise those as well, sort out the scaling there, gather feats, all that fancy stuff like we did for Piltover and Zaun. Unless your 100% willing to do those three seperate areas then don't "see, simple!" me.
Well then let’s not focus on them and stay on task. As you said, different regions.Yes, and all of them need their own scaling sorted out, that's my issue.
I also haven't started on any of them, and I still need to do things like sort out various feats and scaling for City of Heroes, help revise the entirety of Warcraft from the ground up, all balanced with a couple RPs, a couple side stories for two of those RPs, and yeah, you could say I am one busy little beaver that frankly tried to occasionally do shit for other verses, like LoL and holy shit does dipping the toes in the scaling and lore of one area make me realize how deep in shit LoL is.I will do it if you require the assistance. It’s not he first time I’ve helped in a verse overhaul and it won’t be the last.
That sounds a bit better, but we'd still have to eventually edit at least a couple files to Include the fucky areas of scaling which won't be fun to deal with lolWell then let’s not focus on them and stay on task. As you said, different regions.
So first off, Piltover and Zaun. As of now, they scale to Amumu’s feat, Viego’s feat (because MF’s guns which can hurt him are inferior to Hextech) and Maokai’s feat (same reason as Viego). So all their profiles should reflect this, and I have a great way of doing it.
Just use Caitlyn’s gun as the baseline.
Use the part of her AP justification that refers to MF’s guns and Amumu only.
Now we can just link any Hextech file to Caitlyn’s gun by stating their comparable, so now they all link to Maokai and Viego. Then just add the Amumu scaling and voila, every Zaunite and Pilty scale to 7-B if they’ve got the tech for it.
I wish you luck on all of that, try to tackle one thing at a time, no one is forcing you to revise verses so you have all the time you need.I also haven't started on any of them, and I still need to do things like sort out various feats and scaling for City of Heroes, help revise the entirety of Warcraft from the ground up, all balanced with a couple RPs, a couple side stories for two of those RPs, and yeah, you could say I am one busy little beaver that frankly tried to occasionally do shit for other verses, like LoL and holy shit does dipping the toes in the scaling and lore of one area make me realize how deep in shit LoL is.
So yes and no, I am not soloing this project nor am I really deep in it as essentially the messenger(don't shoot me plz), but more hands is always enjoyed as the messenger takes letter to individual lol
That sounds a bit better, but we'd still have to eventually edit at least a couple files to Include the fucky areas of scaling which won't be fun to deal with lol
I will be revising the summaries of the attack potency sections to be more cohesive. Afterwards i will move the Arcane keys to being their own profiles due to the large differences between them and the base characters. Then it should be fine to apply.So what are the conclusions here so far?
Okay. That is probably fine then.I will be revising the summaries of the attack potency sections to be more cohesive. Afterwards i will move the Arcane keys to being their own profiles due to the large differences between them and the base characters. Then it should be fine to apply.
Very well, tell him I will receive his message.Kingofwolves999:
WeeklyBattles asked me to ask you to message him via Discord.
but he is rightYou didn't read the rest of it huh
Anyway, leave the stuff about tier 2 for some other time. Right now this is mostly for tier 6/7 and below stuff. And fixing some justifications.
Again, someone is going to fix that one day. Focus on one thing at a time. You have to realise it's unrealistic to have the whole verse changed from 0 in one go. Give it time.nbut he is right
And it’s not about reading the rest of it but actually making the justifications on the pages clear enough. Something like altering timeline via hax is just hax and has no business in AP sections just like time stops also.
PokeIf the mid end stays, which I see no reason it shouldn’t, then everyone with Hextech is getting upgraded to 7-A not 7-B.
sooooooo yeah
They fought weakened Viego, not full power, so no 7-A.Poke
I know, I was just reminding you this existed, no rush at all, yeah?They fought weakened Viego, not full power, so no 7-A.
Also working on references for each individual profile now. Also real life, hence why it’s going slow.
Profiles themselves are good to go other than minor mistakes. But the calcs still need eval. Can’t do anything until then.