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Not a downgrade, and possibly an upgrade. After all of my research (you can see my blog here), I found out that the justifications of the profiles are kinda... messy and innacurate.
While it is true that TTGL does have a Super Spiral Universe within itself, the universe has never been explicited as 11D, so it's not a solid justification for the High 1-C rating. And no, Super Spiral Universe is not the Anti-Spiral's pocket universe, it is just TTGL's compressed universe embodied by thoughts which created by combining all possible Gurren Laganns in the multiverse (here).
Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann
This claim literally came from nowhere, there are no sources to suggest that STTGL has several Super Spiral Universes inside it, and as I said, "Super Spiral Universe" is not a solid justification for the High 1-C rating.
Gurren Lagann
Simon's integration with the multiverse is correct, however, the multiverse was never created by the Anti-Spiral since they are simply manipulating the already-existing multiverse, then forces the victims consciousnesses to perceive possibilities (here). The birth of the universes are not created based on victims past experiences and preferences anyway, but via their observations and perceptions of possibility (similarly to quantum mechanics, you can check it here).
So the verse has a multiverse, containing an infinite number of universes, with each of them branches again into respective possible universes instantaneously as long as perception is made, which makes the multiverse at least 2-A I guess.
But we are not done yet, the multiverse is multi-layered as per the databooks, and the universes of the multiverse are coexisting in gravitational equilibrium as 10 to 11-dimensional universes confined in membranes (branes), which makes the multiverse is High 1-C, corresponding to brane multiverse, Nakashima (the writter of TTGL) also believed that the "multiverse" for him is 11D but, eh.
Why the profiles are not that accurate
Tengen Toppa Gurren LagannTTGL possesses an entire Super Spiral universe within itself; which is a 10 +1 dimensional brane universes |
While it is true that TTGL does have a Super Spiral Universe within itself, the universe has never been explicited as 11D, so it's not a solid justification for the High 1-C rating. And no, Super Spiral Universe is not the Anti-Spiral's pocket universe, it is just TTGL's compressed universe embodied by thoughts which created by combining all possible Gurren Laganns in the multiverse (here).
Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann
... STTGL is noted to contain several (Super Spiral Universe) within it |
This claim literally came from nowhere, there are no sources to suggest that STTGL has several Super Spiral Universes inside it, and as I said, "Super Spiral Universe" is not a solid justification for the High 1-C rating.
Gurren Lagann
Is an integration of the Infinite Multiverse Labyrinth after the super spiral self of Simon absorbed it. The Infinite Multiverse Labyrinth being an Anti-Spiral multiverse in which conscious beings are trapped within the infinite series of alternate dimensions, created every instant as they are perceived from their past experiences and preferences |
Simon's integration with the multiverse is correct, however, the multiverse was never created by the Anti-Spiral since they are simply manipulating the already-existing multiverse, then forces the victims consciousnesses to perceive possibilities (here). The birth of the universes are not created based on victims past experiences and preferences anyway, but via their observations and perceptions of possibility (similarly to quantum mechanics, you can check it here).
Are they really that powerful?
In fact, they are indeed that powerful, or even more powerful. But firstly, we have to understand how the cosmology works.So the verse has a multiverse, containing an infinite number of universes, with each of them branches again into respective possible universes instantaneously as long as perception is made, which makes the multiverse at least 2-A I guess.
But we are not done yet, the multiverse is multi-layered as per the databooks, and the universes of the multiverse are coexisting in gravitational equilibrium as 10 to 11-dimensional universes confined in membranes (branes), which makes the multiverse is High 1-C, corresponding to brane multiverse, Nakashima (the writter of TTGL) also believed that the "multiverse" for him is 11D but, eh.
Why they are High 1-C (with possibly 1-B upgrade if accepted)
- The Anti-Spiral can easily transcend time and space, allowing them to influence and manipulate the multiverse (Extradimensional Labyrinth), at least High 1-C.
- The Anti-Spirals can completely control their universe that oscillating as an imaginary spacetime between the membranes of the 10th and 11th dimensions to form a complex manifold spacetime, a 11D universe, with said universe is also implied to be infinite in size, High 1-C (if not at least High 1-C, since the universe is "themselves", means it scales to the Anti-Spiral in durability).
- Simon integrates with the multiverse, every possible universes of every possible variations of himself in the multiverse including past and future, High 1-C.
- TTGL powered and created by the multiverse, as the manifestation of emotions with a power greater than dimension and time, "feelings" was also stated to transcend time and space, so it's consistent, at least High 1-C.
- The Giga Drill collisions between STTGL and Super Granzeboma creates a Big Crunch which collapses the Anti-Spiral's universe into a singularity, the clash between them is as well explained to transcends time and space, at least High 1-C.
Possibly speed upgrade?
- The Anti-Spiral is completely unbound by time and gravity, and able to separate themselves from the rest of spacetime continuum.
- Simon crosses universes with mere speed, as Gurren Lagann (I'm aware this Wiki standards have such feat as unquantifiable, but I do think it's worth to note).
- They transcend time and space (if 1-B is accepted).
Hax upgrade
- Acausality Type 1 and 2 for the Anti-Spiral, are unbound by time; freed themselves from the multiverse completely which by all means they have no parallel variations generated by the quantum cosmology (no past and future), which created the multiverse.
- Time Manipulation for the Anti-Spiral, has the complete control over the flow of time of their pocket universe.
- Invisibility for the Anti-Spiral, the databooks said it, they can't be seen by humans.
- Acausality Type 2 (possibly Type 1 too) for Simon, TTGL, and STTGL (including GL, AGL, SGGL in the EOS battle), simply because they have united with their every doppelgangers in the multiverse including past and future.
- Non-Corporeal, Abstract Existence Type 1 for the Anti-Spiral, Simon, Dai-Gurren Dan pilots, TTGL, and STTGL, it should be obvious since all of them are just materialized thoughts, feelings, and emotions (databooks stated as well that TTGL don't exactly exist in physical world and is impossible to calculate in size).
- Non-physical Interraction for the Anti-Spiral, Simon, Dai-Gurren Dan pilots, TTGL, and STTGL, can interact with thoughts, feelings, emotions and can physically harm and pilot abstract beings/mechs like the Anti-Spiral and TTGL respectively.
- Low-Godly Regeneration for the Anti-Spiral, Simon, Dai-Gurren Dan pilots, TTGL, and STTGL, completely lack of physical forms and can regenerate with just thoughts, in example, Lordgenome who able to reform his body from the thought of the Super Spiral Universe and turning himself into a drill after a quantic level destruction.
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