Except when they are obviously effected by time and gravity. TTGL is thrown and body slammed into galaxies. The Anti-Spiral is spun around and tossed. TTGL falls and lands on galaxies as well to avoid attacks.
STTGL has showcases that its effected by gravity, and in both the Anime and in the Movie Lagann and Simon fall/jump on the Anti-Spiral homeworld.
Oh yes, let’s ignore the databook’s statements regarding them (the Anti-Spiral) being capable to freed themselves from time and gravity because said fiction didn’t portray them as flying-flying mega-galaxy robots, that’s just the height of nitpicking.
And kinda strawmanning, since I never said Simon/STTGL are unbound by gravity but the Anti-Spiral are instead, even if they do, your reasons are very amateurish to prove such databook’s statement being invalid, what’s next? They are not even High 1-C in universal scale since they got smacked by galaxies? They are not even High 1-C because the superiority between higher and lower dimensions was never shown in the series despite the its usage regarding brane mechanics and WoG statements?
Only if you remember that the Anti-Spiral were capable to float and appears anywhere by cutting the space (like in the second movie) and STTGL and Super Granzeboma literally were flying in the pocket universe you do know that the portrayals you have mentioned had nothing to do with their relation with time and gravity, it’s just their ways to fight, and at most it’d only be small inconsistencies.
And the fact that Umineko guys are standing still in the room despite their Outerversal ratings also proves that the arguments of yours are to picky for fiction’s standards, that doesn't mean they are still bound to gravity either. Or they do warrants Irrelevant speed despite never described as so, only via our tiering logic.
Also, I have explained on why the multiverse of TTGL has something called as “quantum cosmology” which creates universes via observation in the databooks, literally the parallel universes theory, Anti-Spiral do not have any versions of themselves in the multiverse, aka they only exists as ones, proves that they’ve freed themselves from the multiverse’s cause and effect, which they also explicitly to transcends time and space, consistent to be asked?
If they had a Immeasurable feat or statement you'd be able to provide it. Instead you're relying on dimensional tiering for a rating when we no longer use that as a primary basis for non 1-A characters (whi in turn might also lose this automatic rating).
Please elaborate on why transcending time and space as dimensional difference in the way you made the “time” as meaningless shouldn’t be treat as Immeasurable speed, it’s not just about “dimensional tiering”, which is case per case, I know this circumstance can only be occurred if 1-B is accepted, assuming you do accepted said transcending as Immeasurable speed, of course, but it is not my only argument to begin with, I said the Anti-Spiral are possibly has Immeasurable rating based on databook’s statement that they are no more restricted by time and gravity, in which you tried to debunk with nitpicking reasonings.
How exactly is it asinine? When you can fall, stop, and be pushed into things its obvious gravity still effects you.
They are big, can attack rapidly, and their beams can rapidly cross intergalactic distances. Post Big Bang absorption GL mechas can also react to Anti-Spiral attacks. But in none of those cases are they infinite or Immeasurable feat or statement wise. In fact the existence of any delay between the attack being fired and it hitting them sorta throws out the idea that their speed is as transcendent as you claim it is.
It is an asinine because said reasonings are nitpicking at it’s finest, not even close to good reasons in order to debunk statements from Work Soul guidebook which itself supposed to work as “movie/anime scripts”, you can’t even argue it as hyperbolic. And statement is there, but you just kept deniying it:
| "When the Super Galaxy Gurren Lagann throws, the Ashtanga-class fleet is destroyed. And, in front of the giant Nia, something like a small, black, irregular-shaped humanoid body floats. It's a stop unbounded by time and gravity." |
Why don’t we downgrade Shinza Banshou to below Outerversal as it still has the usage of “time stop”? Or using an analogy of higher dimensions as Taikyoku difference?
If you know that fictions do not portrays fights as fast as they are, then you are aware that the time delay and fast-slow arguments don’t even matter, just like we don’t see Naruto as anything close to even relativistic since we can see them, that doesn’t make them subsonic, why don’t you downgrade the High 1-C rating via humans are capable to see them from earth instead? It’s fiction being fiction.
If every attack was beyond time, had infinite speed, or did something that implied either someone would've said something. TTGL is incredibly straightforward in both statements and feats.
This is very ironic to hear as a guy who did a lot of research about the series, Gurren Lagann doesn’t tell it has the usage of complex projective space used by the Anti-Spiral to oscillates their universe between two membranes, although it does, Gurren Lagann doesn’t tell it has the usage of Copenhagen quantum interpretation that the wavefunctions collapse are dependant to ones perceptions, although it does, Gurren Lagann doesn’t tell that TTGL and its crews are nothing but materialized thoughts, feelings, and emotions and completely lacked of physical form, although they do. And many, many more stuffs that were only covered in the databooks and novelization, it’s not as obvious and straightforward as you think.
