DMCV Vergil vs Beerus (12-4-0)(Concluded)

[Sevil Natas]

DMC 5 Vergil in base VS beerus

this my first Versus thread, hopefully its not a stomp, lets go

Speed equalised

both in character

they start 10 meters apart

Vergil : 12 (efite , tony, mister, gliver, havoc ,galens, riki, arcker, sanic, oliver, xenon, cloozuma)

Beerus : 4 (naito, crimson, planck, rtx, )

Incon :

 

[GilverTheProtoAngelo]

Vergil :- " So you are the hairless feline who killed my idiot brother, now die....."

Beerus :- " Ahhh....so cute a sibling's revenge, I will send you into non existance so you don't have to miss him from now on .....byebye......" raises hand

Vergil :- " Not very classy last words for someone who is already dead..."

Beerus :- " Excuse me.."

Vergil :- Sheaths Yamato..

Beerus :- " Oh cute....nice toy sword you ohhhh shitttt....."

Pretty obvious what happens next who wins...

 

[VinnyXD]

What can beerus do?

 

[Sevil Natas]

What can beerus do?

beerus has superior AP & Hakai

vergil has Yamato along with Soul hax

basically both of their attacks can one shot each other

 

[VinnyXD]

Doesn't the yamato hit right on the target? Like he can do from a distance.

 

[Sevil Natas]

Doesn't the yamato hit right on the target? Like he can do from a distance.

yeah, so does hakai IIRC

 

[Naito-desu]

Beerus' Hakai scales to Sindra's, who could do it from kilometers away and even do it to cities.

 

[Sevil Natas]

range isnt a big factor here, it pretty much comes down to whoever moves first
im inclined to say that vergil takes this, because he only needs a single move from yamato to Win
while beerus has to raise his hand and charge his hakai to win

 

[Valiant_Abyss]

range isnt a big factor here, it pretty much comes down to whoever moves first
im inclined to say that vergil takes this, because he only needs a single move from yamato to Win
while beerus has to raise his hand and charge his hakai to win

Beerus doesn't "charge" hakai? He just raises his hand and says the word. Sometimes he doesn't even need to say Hakai.

Raising your hand seems a lot quicker than drawing your sword and doing an action with it.

 

[Valiant_Abyss]

I'm voting beerus. Raising a hand should be notably faster than drawing your sword and attacking with it.

 

[Naito-desu]

Yeah, Beerus just needs to raise a hand and point it at Vergil, Vergil needs to put a hand on his sword and then draw it, Beerus' Hakai is faster.

 

[Naito-desu]

Voting Beerus for Hakai

 

[Sevil Natas]

Beerus doesn't "charge" hakai? He just raises his hand and says the word. Sometimes he doesn't even need to say Hakai.

Raising your hand seems a lot quicker than drawing your sword and doing an action with it.

yes he does, since the hakai is a Ki Blast and it was stated that toppo needed to charge his

vergil can draw & attack with one quick move

also why are we assuming that beerus would even start with hakai, he only used it once against zamasu & that wasnt even a fight

 

[Naito-desu]

yes he does, since the hakai is a Ki Blast and it was stated that toppo needed to charge his

vergil can draw & attack with one quick move

also why are we assuming that beerus would even start with hakai, he only used it once against zamasu & that wasnt even a fight

Have you ever seen hakai? It's instant, Beerus is not toppo and far more experienced with it. And you're working on the assumption that Vergil starts with his Soul Hax immediately in-character. Beerus has used it instantly on many characters other than Zamasu, he used it on a ghost that had been bothering him while he was eating and he would have used it on Arale had he not been interrupted.

 

[Naito-desu]

vergil can draw & attack with one quick move

Speeds are equalized bro, drawing and attacking is by default slower than raising your hand by virtue of more movement involved, there's no "he can do it quicker" in this scenario

 

[Valiant_Abyss]

also why are we assuming that beerus would even start with hakai, he only used it once against zamasu & that wasnt even a fight

GoDs constantly use hakai for the most insignificant of things. He casually used it once on a random ghost dude for disrespecting him. Zamasu is not the only thing he's used hakai on lol.

 

[Sevil Natas]

all vergils Attacks with yamato negate dura & unlike beerus Vergil is always shown to start with yamato
and the only time beerus' have used the hakai is against zamasu & that ghost guy in both of these cases those werent even fights to begin with, he didnt use it against buu, that cave man,vegeta etc...
also when i said vergil can attack in one move i didnt mean he was quicker, i meant he could attack just unsheathing the sword which sends a JC

 

[Shmooply]

DMC 5 Vergil has high tier Demon Physiology

So, this means Vergil has:

• Passive Paralysis Inducement
• Passive Mind Manipulation
• Passive Disease Manipulation
• Passive Soul Manipulation
• Passive Space-Time Manipulation and Time Stop
• Passive Illusion Creation and Statistics Reduction

But according to the physiology page, that's only if he enters DT, so maybe me bringing this up was pointless.

 

[Sevil Natas]

GoDs constantly use hakai for the most insignificant of things. He casually used it once on a random ghost dude for disrespecting him. Zamasu is not the only thing he's used hakai on lol.

if majin buu was significant so should vergil, he is low 2-C lmao

 

[Sevil Natas]

So, this means Vergil has:

• Passive Paralysis Inducement
• Passive Mind Manipulation
• Passive Disease Manipulation
• Passive Soul Manipulation
• Passive Space-Time Manipulation and Time Stop
• Passive Illusion Creation and Statistics Reduction

But according to the physiology page, that's only if he enters DT, so maybe me bringing this up was pointless.

yeah if vergil enters DT beerus is screwed, though he only has passive fear hax, those passives only apply to argosax & void mundus

 

[Valiant_Abyss]

Beerus lead with Hakai first thing on multiple occasions ranging from a kai acting out of place, to a random ghost dude disrespecting him. Beerus is willing to kill here and he can sense killing intent. Beerus wouldn't hesitate to use hakai at all.

 

[Rikimarox2]

Right uh, on the demon physiology page, it mentions that demons have low-godly regeneration.

Even if we assume that Hakai needs time to charge (It doesn't), can't Beerus just one shot vergil, and then Hakai him once he realizes vergil can regenerate?

 

[Planck69]

Beerus Hakais. Fin.

 

[Sevil Natas]

Beerus lead with Hakai first thing on multiple occasions ranging from a kai acting out of place, to a random ghost dude disrespecting him. Beerus is willing to kill here and he can sense killing intent. Beerus wouldn't hesitate to use hakai at all.

again, this is a false equivalence in all the cases those werent even fights and there were fights where beerus was willing to kill & his opponent was probably trying kill him yet he didnt use hakai (buu & that cave man)

Right uh, on the demon physiology page, it mentions that demons have low-godly regeneration.

Even if we assume that Hakai needs time to charge (It doesn't), can't Beerus just one shot vergil, and then Hakai him once he realizes vergil can regenerate?

if he does that vergil would just one shot with a JC AGAIN vergil just needs to unsheath the sword to send in a JC
also in character beerus says the word "hakai" after raising his hand so he probably doesnt move in first here

 

[Rikimarox2]

Is the attack dodge-able, and can you show me the scan for the attack?

 

[Valiant_Abyss]

again, this is a false equivalence in all the cases those werent even fights and there were fights where beerus was willing to kill & his opponent was probably trying kill him yet he didnt use hakai (buu & that cave man)

What cave man? Buu also probably wasn't trying to kill beerus, and beerus was likely just making a point to the entire crowd of people in front of him. More times than not, Beerus has used hakai in situations where he can or it makes sense to. Given the fact that he can sense that Vergil is trying to kill him, and that beerus is willing to kill here, it's highly likely Mr. Cat man goes for the EE.

 

[Mister6ame6]

Can someone show me when Beerus started with hakai in a serius fight?

Because i only remember he using on fodders and he was not even trying to fight him, just getting rid of than because they are a nucianse for him

 

[Valiant_Abyss]

Can someone show me when Beerus started with hakai in a serius fight?

Because i only remember he using on fodders and he was not even trying to fight him, just getting rid of than because they are a nucianse for him

The only time Beerus ever was in a serious fight was against Champa and the other GoD's but they're all immune to hakai.

 

[Sevil Natas]

Is the attack dodge-able, and can you show me the scan for the attack?

its on vergils profile and its not very dodge-able dante was teleporting and he barely dodged it

 

[VinnyXD]

Does Vergil trash talk like Dante?

 

[VinnyXD]

yeah if vergil enters DT beerus is screwed, though he only has passive fear hax, those passives only apply to argosax & void mundus

Shouldn't that only be on argosax and void mundus why does it scale to all demons

 

[Vietthai96]

its on vergils profile and its not very dodge-able dante was teleporting and he barely dodged it

It is more of a gameplay mechanic, and Dante not teleporting he dashing, but again the attack is pretty fast but not instant

Shouldn't that only be on argosax and void mundus why does it scale to all demons

Well no, Vergil and Dante is equal and stronger than Demon King tier character which is High-Tier Demon, so when they enter DT they are being treated as High-Tier Demon

 

[VinnyXD]

Honestly I'm going Vergil.

In less Beerus is bloodlusted or Vergil is annoying it's no guarantee he would start with Hakai .
Also Vergil doesn't even take he's sword all the way to the slices right?

 

[GilverTheProtoAngelo]

Have you ever seen hakai? It's instant, Beerus is not toppo and far more experienced with it. And you're working on the assumption that Vergil starts with his Soul Hax immediately in-character. Beerus has used it instantly on many characters other than Zamasu, he used it on a ghost that had been bothering him while he was eating and he would have used it on Arale had he not been interrupted.

Soul hax for DMC characters is passive on their physical attacks.....infact you would have to assume that he "turns off his soul hax".....

And Judgement Cut is far faster than Hakai.....even Dante who is equal to Vergil cannot follow its technique completely......and Dante can pretty much meme on Vergil with RoyalGuard which is faster than "raising your hands and shooting a blast".....

Judgement Cut is pretty much instantly summoned on character's person....there is no elaborate "draw and slice and sheathe" animation for Judgement cut.....that attack is more bread and better for Vergil than shooting simple Ki blasts for DB characters....he can even do it on the move while dodging and even teleporting.....

The awesomeness of Judgement Cut, and here, here he does this simply walking, here he does this mid dodge.

Here is Dante dealing with it.
These are the kind of relexes these guys have...

Dante has similar move to hakai where he "raises his hands" to kill his enemies...and this is more dangerous since he telekinetically holds and instantly summons a implosion inside you....and Vergil has canonically dodged it.

Tldr;
Vergil just needs to unsheathe his sword a few centimeters to instantly kill his enemies while Beerus needs to raise and point his arm to erase.......Vergil's is far faster...

And even if that is not enough....Vergil spams teleportation to dodge the Hakai and let loose a Judgement Cut.

 

[VinnyXD]

It is more of a gameplay mechanic, and Dante not teleporting he dashing, but again the attack is pretty fast but not instant

Well no, Vergil and Dante is equal and stronger than Demon King tier character which is High-Tier Demon, so when they enter DT they are being treated as High-Tier Demon

Even so if they are the only ones to show it why would it be part of the whole demon page. Was it stated it's part of demons or does it come just from a feat of argosax and void doing it

 

[VinnyXD]

Vergil just needs to unsheathe his sword a few centimeters to instantly kill his enemies while Beerus needs to raise and point his arm to erase.......Vergil's is far faster...

And even if that is not enough....Vergil spams teleportation to dodge the Hakai and let loose a Judgement Cut.

He needs to reach down,grab , and pull he's sword (maybe get into a position but i believe that's just the game.) In less he uses telekinesis to pull it out and cut.

Still voting Vergil tho

 

[GilverTheProtoAngelo]

He needs to reach down,grab , and pull he's sword (maybe get into a position but i believe that's just the game.) In less he uses telekinesis to pull it out and cut.

Still voting Vergil tho

He just needs to pull out the sword a few centimetres and bam the opponent is filled in spatial cuts.....he doesn't even need to sheathe it cuz that comes after the attack has already hit.....

 

[Sevil Natas]

Even so if they are the only ones to show it why would it be part of the whole demon page. Was it stated it's part of demons or does it come just from a feat of argosax and void doing it

the DW energy passives shouldnt even be on the physiology page it applies only to 2 people idk why its there tbh

 

[VinnyXD]

the DW energy passives shouldnt even be on the physiology page it applies only to 2 people idk why its there tbh

That's what I'm saying.

 

[Vietthai96]

Soul hax for DMC characters is passive on their physical attacks.....infact you would have to assume that he "turns off his soul hax".....

And Judgement Cut is far faster than Hakai.....even Dante who is equal to Vergil cannot follow its technique completely......and Dante can pretty much meme on Vergil with RoyalGuard which is faster than "raising your hands and shooting a blast".....

Judgement Cut is pretty much instantly summoned on character's person....there is no elaborate "draw and slice and sheathe" animation for Judgement cut.....that attack is more bread and better for Vergil than shooting simple Ki blasts for DB characters....he can even do it on the move while dodging and even teleporting.....

The awesomeness of Judgement Cut, and here, here he does this simply walking, here he does this mid dodge.

Here is Dante dealing with it.
These are the kind of relexes these guys have...

Dante has similar move to hakai where he "raises his hands" to kill his enemies...and this is more dangerous since he telekinetically holds and instantly summons a implosion inside you....and Vergil has canonically dodged it.

Tldr;
Vergil just needs to unsheathe his sword a few centimeters to instantly kill his enemies while Beerus needs to raise and point his arm to erase.......Vergil's is far faster...

And even if that is not enough....Vergil spams teleportation to dodge the Hakai and let loose a Judgement Cut.

1. Physical attack mean still need to attack, mean movement

2. Nope, He still need to move his hand to reach to the handle of his sword to perform and he need to take a stance, assuming he could JC instantly mean you know not thing about Vergil.

3. the first video and second is gameplay mechanic, it is a technique allow player to both JC and animation cancel him to make flashy combo, the 3rd video is he still physically using his sword to attack. the 4th is the same, he attacking physically with his sword, nothing more. All of the video you post have no worth, it is either CQC or gameplay mechanic, which character reflex depending on player reflex

4. He still need to casting, casting need movement

5. same as point 2

6. Hakai can't dodge, the momment it is in effect Vergil will be erased