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I don't that's Pre-crisis supes.
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Speed matters not if the target cannot be harmed to the slightest.ZephyrosOmega said:isn't overwatch 9-A as well? Natasha blitzes at least
Dude, Natasha is in the same tier and has High 8-C weapons.Jasonsith said:Speed matters not if the target cannot be harmed to the slightest.ZephyrosOmega said:isn't overwatch 9-A as well? Natasha blitzes at least
1. Jotaro Kujo cannot hurt Kenshiro.
2. Gray blitzes Esdeath as well. The likes of ice demon slayer magic also resists cold-based time stop and amps + absorbs ice AP far higher than base.
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Aren't they literally the same character though? There's evidence suggesting Hal wasn't affected by the CrisisPhantom Falcon said:That's pre-crisis hal. Post-crisis hal gets shit on.
I think you're misunderstanding something... The Post-Crisis timeline is apocryphal meaning they reference storylines that happened originally in the SIlver Age but also in the current timeline in flashbacks. They did the same thing during Identity Crisis #3 when they talked about the exposure of superhero identities and New 52 GL stories where Geoff Johns had lanterns reference pre-flashpoint events but still be introduced to the Justice League for the first time.Kingo the Sixth said:A few problems with that though. There are still several stories post-crisis which reference pre-crisis GL stories. I recall a moment where Hal is taken back to his first mission, and it's Showcase #23. That alone isn't enough evidence, but for GL specifically, it's still explicitly made clear that they weren't affected by the reboot. Green Lantern issue just continue as normal with no interruption in-story, it's purely linear, and the entire first 20 or so issues of Green Lantern Corps are dealing with effects of the crisis. For example, Green Lantern Corps Issue 214 was released a full year after All-Star Squadron #60, and it's shown several times there, very clearly, that GLs retain their memories of their pre-crisis selves. It's even noted in an earlier issue that GLs were immune to the effects as their rings protected them from the waves and getting erased from existence. In ASQ #60, the reason they get rebooted is because Mechanique is "holding back" the wave and it's effects, so even then, GLs are shown to be unaffected.
Saying that because Hal's origin got retconned he's a different character is like saying that Superman became a different character after Superman: Birthright lol. Not every retcon is a full-on reboot.
say it with me now THE ƒæÅ RESET ƒæÅ HADN'T ƒæÅ HAPPENED ƒæÅ YETƒæÅ It protected him from the event itself (the merging into one Universe/Earth) but the actual timeline retcon was held off until All-Star Squadron 60 by mekanique this was stated explicitly -_-Sorvoe551 said:Also, Kilowog's thing involves saving his people from the Crisis as well. Quoting from Kilowog's page on the Fandom DC Wiki:
"During the Crisis on Infinite Earths, Bolovax Vik was destroyed. His ring automatically protected Kilowog, but not his people. Acting quickly, he placed all sixteen billion life energies into his ring. By sheer force of his will, they survived until Kilowog found a suitable planet to release his people. Sadly, the planet was soon destroyed by Sinestro. [1] Kilowog could not rescue them again. He was now alone and lonely for good."
Unless the context of the actual comic makes this completely different (I'm not sure which issue it is), this is what it looks like:
Not only did Kilowog's ring save him from the Crisis, it also kept sixteen billion people from being affected by a multiversal reality overhaul.
Except it 100% does...Tipper17 said:Yeah that doesn't doesn't negate pre crisis Hal and post crisis from being the same character
Except it 100% does...Tipper17 said:Yeah that doesn't doesn't negate pre crisis Hal and post crisis from being the same character
Which sadly shows this sites incompetenceThe real cal howard said:Unless it's tier 1, we don't care about comics. Unless it's a downgrade, of course.
I can understand you having trouble with this, having little to no reading comprehension but from someone who actually knows what he's talking about, it does.Tipper17 said:Except it doesn'
Yeah, let's blame the entire site instead of the few supporters of the verse. Not everyone reads or is knowledgeable on comic verses.Tipper17 said:Which sadly shows this sites incompetenceThe real cal howard said:Unless it's tier 1, we don't care about comics. Unless it's a downgrade, of course.
No need to resort to ad hominem.DuckKing342 said:I can understand you having trouble with this, having little to no reading comprehension but from someone who actually knows what he's talking about, it does.Tipper17 said:SnoopDuckKing342 said:Snip