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That’s a bit of a problem cause Thawne has “yes” phasing
Do you use bigger size = more AP in 2-A? Anyways SF is low complex as a (severe) lowball anyways.
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Death Battle Season Eight Discussion Thread (2) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)
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Arguably way bigger than him, cause Highfather thought the SF energy in the sphere was coming from the the Source Wall.
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The speed force is close to the god sphere, so i'd say it's close to darkseid aswell.
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That is the SF wall, which does not limit the size of the SF
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I was given the wrong information then lmao
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Also funny how the speed of light in DC is at least immeasurable speed due to the map right?
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so godbuster is too slow to blitz Doom...
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Okay loser ring
1/2/3. Lex Luthor, Batman, Goku Black - hard to determine here - Lex managed to fight a Lantern, Batman with Hellbat managed to fight a Darkseid avatar, Goku Black is Goku Black but while universe level he has a weak spot (while that weak spot only cripples resistance towards time huh)
4. Yoda - do not mess with a Jedi unless you own its franchise
5. Steven Universe - Pink Steven Monster Steven yada yada
6. Link - relativistic and at most planet busting
7. Ryuko Matoi - sub-relativistic and giant steel cocoon piercing
8. Iron Fist - nuke absorption, trade blows with Hulk level foes (may be lower - in fact "slightly higher than below")
9. Geese Howard - Verse and predictabo (may be higher)
10. Mikasa Ackerman - Slightly above wall level human with city block level primitive rocket launcher. Yep many people can beat her.
1/2/3. Lex Luthor, Batman, Goku Black - hard to determine here - Lex managed to fight a Lantern, Batman with Hellbat managed to fight a Darkseid avatar, Goku Black is Goku Black but while universe level he has a weak spot (while that weak spot only cripples resistance towards time huh)
4. Yoda - do not mess with a Jedi unless you own its franchise
5. Steven Universe - Pink Steven Monster Steven yada yada
6. Link - relativistic and at most planet busting
7. Ryuko Matoi - sub-relativistic and giant steel cocoon piercing
8. Iron Fist - nuke absorption, trade blows with Hulk level foes (may be lower - in fact "slightly higher than below")
9. Geese Howard - Verse and predictabo (may be higher)
10. Mikasa Ackerman - Slightly above wall level human with city block level primitive rocket launcher. Yep many people can beat her.
So how does he defeat Batman who can tag Darkseid?
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You mean the 10-C data armor?
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Okay, than speedforce is stronger than a Celestial, as Celestials seem to be comparable to the new gods
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Speed force commits a no limits fallacy just by existing
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I want a Goku vs Superman 3. Like if you agree.
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YES. I want to see the comment section on that!
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If we get a third one, can it be Heroes Goku this time? He's gonna need it.
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Heroes/Xenoverse Goku vs Rebirth Superman would be a balls to the wall cosmic fight done in 3D that would probably be the best animated fight in the whole show, seeing as it was the Goku vs Superman matchup that really put Death Battle on the map.
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Idk will DB do that
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Even though Goku still loses, but with actual facts this time it would be one hell of a epic fight
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They basically summed in up. All Tony has to do is prolong the fight long enough for the armor to kill bruce, which Tony is fully capable enough of doing.
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But can Iron Man do so before the Hellbat or Final Batsuit track down the real deal and any backup if Batman has the speed gap and (possibly) the AP gap to kill Tony before Tony knows a plan or the suit can kill Bruce?
(Okay we know the true potential towards the Phoenix Buster but Death Battle really did a poor job to say how Batman cannot end the fight quickly.
Or they would save this part for Raven vs Phoenix or Zatanna vs Scarlet Witch)
Heroes Goku vs Rebirth Superman
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Heroes/Xeno Goku vs Archie Sonic
What a battle
I wonder if people would want Goku (Dragonball Evolution) vs Superman (DC Extended Universe) at all, even if it MAY mean Goku winning Superman.
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That'd be a stomp wouldn't it? Not that DB hasn't done those before, but not only is it one of those "non canon OP versions of the main character" battles but as far as I've seen from Xeno he's got no resistance to Archie's more beefy hax
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Though DCEU Sups horribly blitz this Goku. He also can just lift and throw him in space with blitzing.
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Archie would either one shot or haxstomp Xeno Goku but they don’t have great connections anyway
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Oh yeah
Just found something fun
The Hulk Hogan vs Hulk scene. (Likely that is a green Savage Hulk. Or, just Grey Hulk, which is weaker.)
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Fate hax gg
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Fate crush gg
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BlazBlue
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So as it turns out the DC universe's size may not be as impressive as we initially thought, since the universe could easily be 150 sextillion times the size of the observable universe, meaning the DC universe might actually be smaller than our own, and by extension pretty much every other fictional universe.
Thawne still godstomps, but beating DC heralds is far from a lost cause.
Thawne still godstomps, but beating DC heralds is far from a lost cause.
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Huh. Interesting....
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Again, you could give the AP they gave to RF and give that to Black and keep RF at IMP level only and he'd still win realistically.
But yeah, its called observable universe for a reason. It very well could be infinite. And if that is stupid, it still doesn't mean that 5.39e59 x universe size DC uni good.
But yeah, its called observable universe for a reason. It very well could be infinite. And if that is stupid, it still doesn't mean that 5.39e59 x universe size DC uni good.
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DC would still scale to this though, they never say the universe is 100 trillion light years in size it's just that there's an instance of someone traveling 100 trillion light years somewhere in the universe.
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Our universe has a confirmed size?
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I see no reason not to use real world higher estimates, espesially if DC isn't getting punished for it's own inconsistency.
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Unless the standard for Universe level change, people are still going to use the observable universe as baseline.
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Maybe we could have Low 3-A for the observable universe, 3-A for the theorized full size of the universe, and High 3-A for an infinite universe. This might actually be really important, come to think about it.
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