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My first shot at making art for a matchup I like. I feel I did a pretty good job considering I have little to no experience with the software I used to make it. Not too sure about the tagline though.
Good job. Who's the matchup, though?
The cueball and green cracks behind imply to me it is lord english, so what's the MU?
Lord English (Homestuck) vs The Scarlet King (SCP)
Some connections:
  • Royal titles
  • Known for their hatred of everything
  • Main bad guys of popular web series
  • Their influence on the story comes from their lackeys rather than them
  • Both are the god of a cult that's mainly about doing horrible things to people
  • Both cults have one member that misunderstands what their cult is about and thinks their god is actually good
  • Both have traumatized a child via influencing their father figure
Some fun opposites
  • Complementary colors
  • Lord English is always "Already there" while the Scarlet King is usually an unavoidable future threat
 
Korra scales above Aang who scales above Zuko who can redirect lightning.

Matters not as Storm can too.









That said, is Korra vs Domenico Pucci more interesting than Ororo Munroe vs Domenico Pucci?
Can korra do anything to Weather Report? I don’t think she has any counters to heavy weather which is based on visible light I think (it’s been a while since I read part 6)
 
Since Storm can kinda just redirect everything Korra can do I hope they make the death involve Korra trying to use all of her elements in desperation at the end just to get them effortlessly nulled by Storm
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Predicted ending of Korra vs Storm.
Does Korra even resist mind control? Even assuming she resists Amon's mind control by blood bending, Weather Report mind controls by electric signals - something AFAIK not in Avatar.

And that said, does Storm resist mind control and transmutation? And how "molecular" can Storm manipulate the natural elements? That WR destroys an ozone vs Storm creating a natural storm suggests that Storm is at least physically stronger (without herald or other omega level mutant scaling). And... Can Storm be poisoned by poisons or oxygen level or just suffocation?
 
Ok, this is my honest review of Shao Kahn vs Akuma. Since I have a strong attachement to both characters, I felt the need of examining the episode in its entirety.

Analysis of Akuma:

They start with the comics.
I think it's a good way to detail the background when your target is a broad and general, american public. Though I don't like them for the classic reasons, i.e. they are an american-canadian product with several loose elements, and I'll always prefer japanese products (manga, animations...) over them (which DB has used in this episode). Nothing bad so far, tho.

Telling that Ansatsuken combines all those styles isn't really good imho, it's better to say that it features elements from said forms of combat. But that's just a personal nitpick.

They now show Akuma killing Jedah using Dhylec (Donovan's sword). This is something I would absolutely avoid doing, because you're already implying some scaling to the demon lord. The worst thing is that they show the picture without even talking about it.

They list "Limited telepathy" as a power, without any explanation, I think they might refer to ki sensing but who knows. "Manifests as Oni" is already a bad way to introduce that character.
I don't like how they didn't even mention Akuma's ability to project fire, it's a very basic part of his gameplay, and if you allow some scaling to Ryu's Hadoken, you can even get some very high levels of heat.

Now the infamous Hakan-Honda feat. Even Boomstick's statement is flawed, as he compares Akuma's raw power to Hakan's ability to spin others around himself with oil, two things that are completely different. Then you get the classic issues with the feat itself: Is an outlier, comes from a non-canon ending, is a combined performance, it didn't require Hakan's raw strength and finally it is more of a durability feat for Honda, but then you can just scale others to hurting him, which then makes me question why needed to build speed up if they already have the strength to destroy the meteor (circular scaling). But I can see why they want to use it, tbh.
Also, no math or else, Wiz just spits out the number he believes being the yeld of such feat.

Stating that Akuma has traded blows with Final Fight characters without showing canon battles doesn't make much sense. They just scaled him through plain gameplay. Of course you can connect Akuma to them with scaling chains, but there would have been a better way to tell that.

Here it comes the other questionable feat. Let alone that Final Fight Revenge isn't canon, Haggar's super move is clearly made to be comedy and toon force-ish. You see him jumping around the planet creating random explosions, and then you to take it as a serious and actual demonstration of power and of what is happening.
Yoy could even treat it as a speed feat, since he bounces around different parts of the planet in a few seconds and even reaches outer space. But since this is a rather arbitrary evaluation, they only consider the big explosion. Lastly, a piledriver isn't exactly a product of the fighter's strength, it's just gravity (although you can treat it as a durability feat, then turn it into ap through scaling).

Third feat, Shin Akuma's Capcom Fighting Jam ending. We once again already know all the flaws of this feat. Non-canon crossover game. And that ending means Akuma has killed Pyron, but sure, let's ignore that too. Again, an arbitrary evaluation.

They show Akuma fighting Gouken in SF4, then they say Akuma has defeated him. This is right, but that happened in the past. It's strongly implied that Gouken won their second encounter (the one that happens in SF4), since Ryu was the prize for winning the battle, and since Akuma didn't take him with him, it's very likely that Gouken won that match.

Now the Shun Goku Satsu and the fact it destroys the soul, which is wrong. I'm not saying that I want credit for the thing, as I didn't make a several years-long research in a third world country, I just asked myself where the source of that thing was, then dug up for a 20 minutes in canon material and got a few lines translated. Even the G1 blog rejected the fact that the SGS supposedly targets the soul, and we all know that Death Battle checks the wiki (they even mentioned it a couple of times in the episodes) so they know that the old misconception has been debunked, they just decided to ignore it. It may be canon to the comics, and I get why they want to include them, but they should use it as an additional property, not the main one.

The infobox says that Ansatsuken users can resist soul stealing, as if it was dependant on the Martial Art itself and not their own capabilities and the Satsui/Mu no Ken.

Feat list: Why would punching through Ryu's chest be a notable feat? (besides that it doesn't happen in canon). Splitting the ocean is also non canon, and I'm not sure where it comes from, but let's move on.

I don't like that they used footages from Alpha 3, instead of SF2, to show Akuma killing Bison, but that's another nitpick.
Also, there's another arbitrary evaluation, as they used the Psycho Drive for the speed and not for AP (which would have mattered little tbh, since they already established him as High 6-B).

Excellent analysis of Akuma's belief and his rule of not giving up to the hado, that was actually well done, cheers.
Tho, I don't know why they made a sort of irl scaling with actual legends about Onis, that was weird.
Now the line Akuma hasn't lost himself to dark side of the hado yet. All correct, but then they use Oni anyway, as if theiy didn't care about what they said three seconds ago.

If there's something weirder than using Capcom Fighting Jam, it's using SNK vs Capcom Chaos, and only to show him performing some dimensional travel to heaven.


Analysis of Shao Kahn:

We start immediately with live action and animated movies, but at least they don't use them for scaling.

It's obvious that they merged both timelines, and it's also understandable why they've done that, so I'm not going to complain about it too much.
However, for how good it was to mention the two chinese fighting styles he used to employ in the old timeline, they completely avoided to mention how his fighting style in the Netherrealm timeline is more rough, clumsy, and based on overpowering the opponent with sheer strength and brutality, similarly to the concept of a wrestler they mentioned earlier. I know it's difficult to match the two versions of Shao's style, but that has to be mentioned anyway.

Ok, now the bad parts start, and I'm talking about soul stealing. It's true that Shao uses Soul magic, but they talked about it as more effective than it actually is.
Showing Shang is a bad example, as the sorcerer's powers were bestowed upon him by Shao himself, so he was just taking his own stuff back (although Shang's soul was indeed his own). Besides, Shao has never used it for combat against comparable or stronger opponents, meaning that it either is ooc for some reason, or that the power has some big limitations, like working only on defeated enemies, or those weaker or dependant on him.

Even to cast the Soulnado they now talk about, he needed the help of Quan Chi, and it still took time to be prepared and could be stopped pretty easily tbh.

And here's the realm merging affair.
To begin, there's no indication that the magic used to merge realms scales directly to everything else Kahn does, it can perfectly be Fusionism hax.
Then they show his ending, where it's clearly written that Shao got the power of merging the two realms only after absorbing billions of souls, which isn't exaclty Shao's standard level of power.
And again, the MK3 intro where it is stated that Shao Kahn slowly transforms the planet into a part of the Outworld itself.
And so we add a long timespan to the process, which is also described as Transmutation hax, but DB still treats the feat as something Shao can do normally, with his base power level.

Wiz states that Shao Survived being impaled. That's just wrong if taken out of context as they did. Shao was pretty much dead after that punch, and everyone else in the setting believed that too. Quan Chi had to accelerate Shao's healing process to not make him die from the wound.

Shao having consistently surpassed Raiden also isn't that correct, especially when you show the MK9 intro, where Shao is empowered by Blaze's power.
And again, they show the MK9 ending, where Shao fights Raiden empowered by the Elder Gods, without providing the necessary context. First, that Shao was empowered by the souls stolen by the Soulnado, which, despite having bee interrumpted, still sent some to him. That scene is also very weird, because Shao shrugs off Raiden's blast, then the true fight comes, and after that Shao is shown laying on the ground covered in wounds while Raiden was pretty much fine. Shao wasn't at his standard power level, nor could actually scale to "Super" Raiden.

The info box is also wrong. It ignores the fact that the Elder Gods were losing power due to the time shift, meaning that Cetrion was weaker than usual, and that Fire God Liu Kang's power isn't just Liu (Revenant + Alive) + Raiden's, since he can fight on par with a Shang Tsung who has absorbed the souls of Sindel, Shao Kahn, Kronika, Cetrion and part of Raiden and Fujin's, on top of donning Kronika's krown, which is an immense power source in the setting, to the point that even a low tier like Jacqui Briggs could contend with a (weakened) Elder God when using it.
And the infobox still refers to Shao empowered by the half-soulnado.

More questionable scaling. Cetrion becomes as big as planet, but for what reason would she have the same stats she has when she is small?
It doesn't make sense to scale Shao to big Cetrion's strength and speed.

Feats list: Stealing Shan Tsung's soul isn't that much of a feat FRA, having mastered numerous martial arts is completely groundless and isn't backed up by anything, surviving impalement is wrong FRA, and winning the battle of Armageddon and defeating Blaze must be taken with a grain of salt, since it was a huge battle royale and Shao spent most of the time fighting with Onaga (there's an official tweet stating that Shao clobbered Onaga, then returned to kill Blaze).

Now they scale Blaze to the power boost he grants to the one who defeats him, which just doesn't make sense. Every character becomes much more powerful after defeating Blaze, but if the latter could harness the same power, how could such fighters defeat him in the first place? Multi-realm Blaze just doesn't make sense.

They also say that Kahn's arrogance isn't much of a problem, when in the end it actually is. He always underestimates his opponent, which is why he loses to Raiden and becomes easy prey to a Shang Tsung in MK11, who was already stronger than him.

I know the battle itself doesn't reflect the research, but some points need to be addressed anyway: Why can Shao absorb Akuma's Gohadokens? Why can Akuma transform into Oni? Why can Shao stand up and fight after being impaled? Why can Shao stop the Raging Demon?

Most of the reasons they provide for Shao's victory is stuff I've already addressed, so I'm not going to repeat myself. Still, I have to add something. Blaze's armaggeddon is another example of something that happened overtime, the video they show states it, so it didn't happen immediately. Even them saying that 47 zettatons is the lowest value possible doesn't have much sense either. Blaze is also a magical being that grants different powers to anyone, so who knows if he had actually used raw power to end all of reality?
They once again repeat that Shao transmuting Earth overtime scales to his raw power, without any actual reason.

Moreover, If his arrogance was that big of an issue, he wouldn't have conquered so many realms.
Ignoring the fact that the two things aren't related, since Shao didn't conquer them all by himself, it is easy when you have the strongest army there is, and you're hundreds of times physically superior to most of the people in existence. Even I could conquer multiple realms and defeat the most formidable fighters if they were all grains of dust compared to me.
They even mention his strategy, which isn't anything astonishing at the end of the day.
Letting alone that he has been manipulated by multiple people over the course of the series (The One Being, Quan Chi, Shinnok, D'vorah. Kronika, Shang Tsung...), he also lost to Liu Kang, Kotal Kahn and Kitana, with the latter two not being consistent in the grand picture, but they still happened. In MK11, when his loss to Kitana is shown a second time, Shang also states that Shao isn't that much of a skilled fighter. Sure, he is great in doing what he does, and is clearly an expert fighter overall, but he gives his best against other powerhouses (like Kotal Kahn), while more agile opponents give him serious troubles,

And this is all, I've covered everything I believe being wrong in this episode.
Sure, the outcome is correct if you consider Shao as being Small Planet level with Relativistic speed (and even then, the SGS would have killed him anyway), but there were many flaws in that rating imho.

I love how they strive for accuracy sometimes, throwing in many clauses and making 1-hour long Q&As to explain and debunk misconceptions (like for Beerus vs Galaxia and Ben vs Green Lantern), but then make such episode like this without caring about anything.

The music was very good, tho, and the animation wasn't great, but still pretty enjoyable. The Tatsumaki turned into a backbreaker was great.
 
Akuma vs Kahn being kinda last minute choice shows in research and animation.

Honestly, DB's "we use characters at their peaks" usually just means they accept outliers bit too much.
 
Honestly, DB's "we use characters at their peaks" usually just means they accept outliers bit too much.
The problem is that they make double standards when it comes to what kind of material they use. Sometimes they are rightfully strict, sometimes they throw everything into the mix like this.

Like, if they wanted to composite Akuma acrosso crossovers and non-non games, they could have used Asura's Wrath, Tekken SF EX, SF vs Darkstalkers (comics) and else, instead of cherry picking some of this and some of that, ignoring context in the process.

Akuma vs Kahn is at least considered better than MMvKAM, right?
That's kind of an unfair comparison, since MMvsKAM was a joke match. In terms of enjoyability, then yes, totally, I'm not a fan of their joke episodes, when they are mostly thrown away like that. (Deadpool vs Mask and Smokey vs McGruff were great)
 
Random question. What is a random match up you'd really love to see but know it'll probably never happen.

Mine is Carnage vs Hellsing Alucard. Connections being boodthristy monsters, red, shapeshifters, sadistic and crazy regenerartive abilities. Also they eat people so there's that
 
A lot of games I played are unlikely to get many characters so I don't even think about.

Recently I had Steve vs Sackboy and even that would happen only if Terrarian was deemed too hard to make work.

Thats why I'm mostly in this ride in backseat. Honestly, I actually warmed up on Akuma vs Kahn.
 
Since Storm can kinda just redirect everything Korra can do I hope they make the death involve Korra trying to use all of her elements in desperation at the end just to get them effortlessly nulled by Storm
Korra does the Avatar elemental shield thing but Storm just blows it all away before hitting Korra with wind so strong she splats like a fly on a windshield
 
Random question. What is a random match up you'd really love to see but know it'll probably never happen.

Mine is Carnage vs Hellsing Alucard. Connections being boodthristy monsters, red, shapeshifters, sadistic and crazy regenerartive abilities. Also they eat people so there's that
Yukari vs Altair has 0 ******* chance lmao

Altair is basically a who to them, it's another reality warper fight which iirc they've said they hate doing, and Yukari has more mainstream MUs (even if they all kinda suck).
 
Korra's only hope is to delete Storm's soul but its slow and requires a water connection between them which is perfect for Storm to send a Thor-tier electricity through.
It doesn't even have to be that strong considering Equalists were able to knock her out with their weak ass shock batons
 
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