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DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (2024–2025) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

Tipper17 said:
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Whoa, they updated the text font. Cool.
 
Still holding out hope for Joker. However, keep in mind that in Weiss VS Mitsuru, they scaled the Persona Cast to MCB+ Level with Hypersonic C/R Speeds while they scale Dio in Dio VS Alucard to City Level with MFTL+ speeds. So, its going to be close.
 
Unrelated, but I just finished watching the Gens re-written playthrough and (small spoilers): I genuinely don't understand why people are using this to say Time Eater is only universal with hax? The dialogue is literally the same as canon with "world" replaced with "timeline" and making it clear Eggman had control over it. There's nothing about it only being hax, nothing. If anything they using timeline proves hypertimeline because Crisis City still exists and was erased and many works of fiction use timeline instead of hypertimeline. It's honestly pathetic someone would find leaks and spoil the game simply just to downplay and "own" the Sonic fans.
 
LegendariumOfLies said:
Still holding out hope for Joker. However, keep in mind that in Weiss VS Mitsuru, they scaled the Persona Cast to MCB+ Level with Hypersonic C/R Speeds while they scale Dio in Dio VS Alucard to City Level with MFTL+ speeds. So, its going to be close.
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Keep in mind that it has been many years since Weiss vs Mitsuru, and the research team have changed how they look at things, so Joker's stats are likely going to be very different from Mitsuru's.
 
LegendariumOfLies said:
Still holding out hope for Joker. However, keep in mind that in Weiss VS Mitsuru, they scaled the Persona Cast to MCB+ Level with Hypersonic C/R Speeds while they scale Dio in Dio VS Alucard to City Level with MFTL+ speeds. So, its going to be close.
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While true in Weiss vs Mitsuru, I fully believe that they scaled her that way so it made the fight seem way more fair. We already know the consider Makoto at least Uni level from the DBCast against Tifa so I feel like they'll scale Joker even higher than that.
 
LegendariumOfLies said:
Still holding out hope for Joker. However, keep in mind that in Weiss VS Mitsuru, they scaled the Persona Cast to MCB+ Level with Hypersonic C/R Speeds
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It's possible they only scaled Mitsuru that way because they wanted to cover for what a massive stomp the fight actually was, and thus they could/would scale Joker differently, here.

I mean look at how they scaled Omni-Man when he was fighting Homelander versus when he was fighting Bardock yes, the scaling there was bunk, but that's not the point.
 
And besides, again, the raw stats border on irrelevant in this MU. There is no universe in which they say Joker can bypass GER and he then doesn't also just win. I wouldn't fixate on it too much.
 
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Theuser789 said:
Unrelated, but I just finished watching the Gens re-written playthrough and (small spoilers): I genuinely don't understand why people are using this to say Time Eater is only universal with hax? The dialogue is literally the same as canon with "world" replaced with "timeline" and making it clear Eggman had control over it. There's nothing about it only being hax, nothing. If anything they using timeline proves hypertimeline because Crisis City still exists and was erased and many works of fiction use timeline instead of hypertimeline. It's honestly pathetic someone would find leaks and spoil the game simply just to downplay and "own" the Sonic fans.
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Eeeerm, planetary Super Sonic max
 
Theuser789 said:
Unrelated, but I just finished watching the Gens re-written playthrough and (small spoilers): I genuinely don't understand why people are using this to say Time Eater is only universal with hax? The dialogue is literally the same as canon with "world" replaced with "timeline" and making it clear Eggman had control over it. There's nothing about it only being hax, nothing. If anything they using timeline proves hypertimeline because Crisis City still exists and was erased and many works of fiction use timeline instead of hypertimeline. It's honestly pathetic someone would find leaks and spoil the game simply just to downplay and "own" the Sonic fans.
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Nah man.

You're gonna have a hard time convincing anyone outside of Sonic fans on this site that it doesn't change anything

On the discord there's some commotion stirring over this rewrite.

Reminder that Bowser has a nerf because his official stated plans in English didn't align with the argued stats from supplementary sources.
 
Foxthefox1000 said:
Nah man.

You're gonna have a hard time convincing anyone outside of Sonic fans on this site that it doesn't change anything

On the discord there's some commotion stirring over this rewrite.

Reminder that Bowser has a nerf because his official stated plans in English didn't align with the argued stats from supplementary sources.
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Most people on the Death Battle subreddit of all places disagree with you already: https: //www.reddit.com/r/deathbattle/s/PKklDq8K7h

I don't give af about the Death Battle discord since Death Battle is blatantly biased against Game Sonic like you.

You can stay seething about the Sonic fans in this wiki and their ratings outside of here, because they aren't going anywhere. There's nothing in this rewrite that makes it only universal. You spreading around false and biased spoilers is genuinely pathetic behavior. Just cope with downgrades of your favorite verse rather than being spiteful. You give Mario and Death Battle fans a bad name.
 
LegendariumOfLies said:
Still holding out hope for Joker. However, keep in mind that in Weiss VS Mitsuru, they scaled the Persona Cast to MCB+ Level with Hypersonic C/R Speeds while they scale Dio in Dio VS Alucard to City Level with MFTL+ speeds. So, its going to be close.
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IIRC that matchup came out pretty much right around the time P3 cast was just starting to get scaled to Universe+ in the community, since Persona Q2 had just come out in the West a week before Weiss vs Mitsuru aired. I remember because people were talking about what a hilarious stomp it was going to become in hindsight.
I think even VBW only had SEES at Mountain level via Erebus statements up until then. (Oh how things have changed..)
 
Theuser789 said:
Most people on the Death Battle subreddit of all places disagree with you already: https: //www.reddit.com/r/deathbattle/s/PKklDq8K7h

I don't give af about the Death Battle discord since Death Battle is blatantly biased against Game Sonic like you.

You can stay seething about the Sonic fans in this wiki and their ratings outside of here, because they aren't going anywhere. There's nothing in this rewrite that makes it only universal. You spreading around false and biased spoilers is genuinely pathetic behavior. Just cope with downgrades of your favorite verse rather than being spiteful. You give Mario and Death Battle fans a bad name.
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Damn this clearly affects you a lot huh? Sorry if I touched a nerve.

You act like I'm trying to be an asshole. I find this rewrite funny because I personally believe it goes against everything we've thought so far from MY place of debating things. I also made sure to specify it was a spoiler post. Please calm down
 
Maverick_Zero_X said:
Couldn't wait for the game to officially drop before disingenuous downplay rip

If they're arguing TE only affected the Prime Universe Crisis City seems to bunk that pretty hard
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Main timeline. A singular timeline. Pulling something that's been retconned out of existence is cool range and potent and all but isn't an AP feat explicitly
 
Foxthefox1000 said:
Damn this clearly affects you a lot huh? Sorry if I touched a nerve.

You act like I'm trying to be an asshole. I find this rewrite funny because I personally believe it goes against everything we've thought so far from MY place of debating things. I also made sure to specify it was a spoiler post. Please calm down
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You are being an asshole. You are a weird stalker who goes around this wikia, watching everyone and talking shit on other websites, but when you come here you are all nice. You literally say so much shit out there, but yet you can't even debate here in front of the people you talk shit about. Plus spreading literal misinformation out even before the game releases is a genuinely dick move. Instead of just enjoying the game your versus brainrot forces you to spitefully spread shit because the cartoon turtle must beat the egg-shaped man in an internet versus show.
 
Foxthefox1000 said:
Damn this clearly affects you a lot huh? Sorry if I touched a nerve.

You act like I'm trying to be an asshole. I find this rewrite funny because I personally believe it goes against everything we've thought so far from MY place of debating things. I also made sure to specify it was a spoiler post. Please calm down
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But you shouldn't have posted it that early, like, I agree with you with the feat being uni+, but rushing things out wasn't a good idea tbf
 
Bro you're taking this too seriously.

Nothing I've said is disingenuous either. I've said on Discord that I'm willing to discuss this stuff when more people become aware of it because right now I can't see any other way this affects things.
 
Foxthefox1000 said:
Main timeline. A singular timeline. Pulling something that's been retconned out of existence is cool range and potent and all but isn't an AP feat explicitly
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Huh, no, Crisis City is verbatim stated to be another universes....a non existen one at that

By "Timeline" here they mean the Hypertimeline, since you know......multiple universes are shown affected, like the Special stages in the 3DS version, and the bad future of stardust speedway as well and the said Crisis City
 
Theuser789 said:
Instead of just enjoying the game your versus brainrot forces you to spitefully spread shit because the cartoon turtle must beat the egg-shaped man in an internet versus show.
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I think this is less about Bowser vs Eggman and more about his view on Sonic scaling in general, and tbf, people here seem to shittalk too much about Mario scalers(espacially the bowser-side) and strawmanning them
 
Omegabronic said:
Huh, no, Crisis City is verbatim stated to be another universes....a non existen one at that

By "Timeline" here they mean the Hypertimeline, since you know......multiple universes are shown affected, like the Special stages in the 3DS version, and the bad future of stardust speedway as well and the said Crisis City
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From another universe. Get the wording right. Unless I'm misremembering.

Sure that's totally what they mean lol
 
Foxthefox1000 said:
This is LITERALLY the main writer and it's in canon now.

It CANNOT be discarded dude
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Also......you do know the other dialogue is still canon as it is still in the game right?

.....regardless.......why are we talking about leaked content without a care for spoiling the game? Seens wrong ngl
 
Starsprite53 said:
I think this is less about Bowser vs Eggman and more about his view on Sonic scaling in general, and tbf, people here seem to shittalk too much about Mario scalers(espacially the bowser-side) and strawmanning them
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The original post was literally talking about how Eggman fans got screwed over and got BTFO and they were wrong and "so much for hypertimeline", so no, it was all about Eggman vs Bowser AND being spiteful about the Sonic fans here.
 
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