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On this site sure
Damn near everyone has Bowser winning
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DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (2024–2025) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)
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Damn near everyone has Bowser winning
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Just you wait, that Zelda movie will come out and ruin Ganon too
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He's talking about everyone being universal, MFTL+ and all the scaling chains. So, pretty much old scaling where we relied on feats and explicit feats only. And he's kinda right because using that logic, only Chaos Heart is really explicitly universal, really.
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that was a years old ep tbf, they're def gonna get joker higher if smash bracket can get joker to ******* galaxy level lmfao
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A lot of it questionable besides Pure/Chaos Hearts.
Hell, Id accept lore too, but a lot of it is weird "dreams are universes" shit, which is a sin that we allowed. Hell, the real lore is that Mario characters are actors so basically entire series lore should not be taken too literally.
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Yeah, what they presented for Mitsuru is only but a mere fraction of their true opinions on Persona scaling.
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Both fall in questionable shit. One is statements only and the other is alternate dimension shit which would be questionable as well.
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Tbf the remake kept his lines and even added juicy stuff in the rematch (btw it merged both english and japanese scripts and it's done by Nintendo teams now, who said they work directly with the devs, not Square's like last time)
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Yeah apparently Culex was translated way differently so thats sus. Black Jewel is hax that shouldnt scale to AP because my god Mario does not have direct Uni feats/scaling look at the feats in the games.
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Tbf that is also a modern vs concept going by your logic
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Why would Mario destroy the universe?????
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Being able to destroy the universe does not mean one wants to destroy the universe.
So yeah, Mario probably wouldnt want that :V
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I mean, he can't do that anyways
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People still try to defend the previous one with excuses and garbage reasons, one in discord recently basically argued overall
-Viltrum is x153 bigger then Earth, when they said x14, so it can take star level attacks, the core being hit is ap vs dc, not anti feat
-giving bardock ssj was wank, if you say the sun disk was wank too, death battle makes characters be at their best so its normal
-"powerscaling subjective", "fiction doesnt follow any rules" latter used to justify more the planet thing
And apparently that person says they got a streak at debating fiction, yet defends that, laughable
-Viltrum is x153 bigger then Earth, when they said x14, so it can take star level attacks, the core being hit is ap vs dc, not anti feat
-giving bardock ssj was wank, if you say the sun disk was wank too, death battle makes characters be at their best so its normal
-"powerscaling subjective", "fiction doesnt follow any rules" latter used to justify more the planet thing
And apparently that person says they got a streak at debating fiction, yet defends that, laughable
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"It's all subjective" mfs when a character they like loses a match they should've won
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Now that some peak head canon lol
We literally saw the planet being ****** up the ray and the trio viltrutmites
The idea Viltrum is some special planet that can take star level attacks is some peak low IQ shit that based off nothing at worst it's anti feat of the ray
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Ah, so that's where the "gorilla's worst nightmare" line comes from
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Apparently they sent a image link to prove that which ironically is from this site from like 2017 arguing the size of viltrum which was denied
Bro fiction has no rules so ofc fiction can make a planet be star level in dura, its legit bro, cuz the ray didnt bust it bro
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Invincible doesnt even allude to such thing, let alone has consistency, but here we are
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Given it was teased last time it makes sense
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How does Gorilla's worst nightmare mean Gioker?
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Giorno preview they show the scene with the banana changed into a gun that kills the fat stand user
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Also it sounds like they made use of the styles of persona and jojo, especially with these two fighting
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Unrelated yet again, but I just found out that the Japanese version of Sonic x Shadow Generations has the same script of the original, and that one doesn't have the "timeline" bullshit. It's just like the original. So that cope is truly dead and buried.
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First one is way better ngl
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Is the game out?
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Hey! at least give me some credits
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Leaks, but this is a relative minor spoiler, which is why I didn't spoil it.
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One thing I have noticed from the "its subjective" crowd is that its true until its something they don't like."It's all subjective" mfs when a character they like loses a match they should've won
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I hate when I hear the word subjective when it comes to this shit because it reeks of cope and wanting to have your cake and eat it too."It's all subjective" mfs when a character they like loses a match they should've won
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You these are sexy af
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It's so funny how people were just so quick (I think very happy, too) to jump onto this and let the downplay begin, only for it to explode anyway
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As a member of the "It's subjective crowd" the main issue is that a lot of people in the same camp as me have is that they take it to the extreme that literally everything is subjective. Like even though I think the dreaded icky lore™ would let Kratos stomp the shit outta Asura I think it's subjective and using more in your face and concrete feats to say Asura stomps Kratos is fine, but if someone tried arguing that Kaido beats Galactus than they are just objectively wrong lmao. Like often it is subjective but it ain't exactly rare for a MU or a feat to be objective (I know it's a dead horse but lmao at Viltrum having beyond star level durability, the Toriko planet it is not), trying to take it to the extreme of it ALL being subjective just ain't it.
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I say vs debating is heavily subjective and I straight up disagree with Bardock vs Omni man, and think Bardock should have won."It's all subjective" mfs when a character they like loses a match they should've won
Vs should really not be taken as seriously as some people take it. And I have no issues with people disagreeing or calling research sus... as long as they are respectful about it.
this is fiction, what people take into account varies, other sites and spaces have different rules. and how someone debates or interprete things is very wide.
sure some feats have less subjectivity then other's but other's are very subjective.
not to say some subjectivity can't be wrong, I think there's enough debunks of the sun disk numbers alone that prove that's hella sus. But still.
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