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DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (2024–2025) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

EJthe24th said:
I watched the livestream. I can say they did acknowledge the issues with Omnidock, they went over why they went with the Sun Disk feat and from what I recall, it was essentially having the researched finished a year ago when RT had shut down.

It sounds like the research team had already reached their conclusion, so there was no point in changing it
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That's not addressing the concerns or admitting anything.

Hey you got this question wrong?


Eh that was a month ago
 
Tipper17 said:
eh the mu is good just had a terrible verdict(sounds familiar?)
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Animation and music aside, i dislike how they researched it, which most of you already heard of it from me a million times

But the issue is it made some idiots like the mentioned guy above from reddit and others like him believe the meat riding given, which really any mu they done before had a similar issue, gaslighting characters that arenr actually as they say at times
 
Deidalius said:
ngl I would have appreciated more if they did a DBC making extended arguments to why they're right and all over them just handwaving the opposition to saltiness.

When was the last time they made a DBC where they go on full long explanations to why they are right about their verdicts? Did they stop doing that?
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Ben vs Hal was the last time I remember that happening
 
0ホルスファルコン将軍0 said:
He called out Guts VS Nightmare, he just doesn’t go into powerscaling unless if the result contradicts the episode’s own logic.
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I never understood why this mentality of "judge it by episode logic" is a thing

Why should i judge an episode from their episode logic instead of the supposed general logic, if they said homelander won and it was correct under their logic for example, is that suppose to be ok?
 
Bigdongus said:
Ben vs Hal was the last time I remember that happening
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Wow, what a fall from grace

You know, I think they should do more stuff like that, I know there are people who are still salty about that matchup, but there are also a lot of people who defend Death Battle for their verdict in that fight

Death Battle is pretty much doing the same thing, putting the important calculations in the black boxes rather than address them in the video
 
EJthe24th said:
I watched the livestream. I can say they did acknowledge the issues with Omnidock, they went over why they went with the Sun Disk feat and from what I recall, it was essentially having the researched finished a year ago when RT had shut down.

It sounds like the research team had already reached their conclusion, so there was no point in changing it
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So, what is the intended implication of saying it was done a year ago? If they stand by it, it shouldn't matter how long ago it was done.
 
I honestly don't think they should be obligated to "address" issues with calcs, it really isn't a big deal. But I don't really watch Death Battle, so whatever.
 
Deidalius said:
Wow, what a fall from grace

You know, I think they should do more stuff like that, I know there are people who are still salty about that matchup, but there are also a lot of people who defend Death Battle for their verdict in that fight

Death Battle is pretty much doing the same thing, putting the important calculations in the black boxes rather than address them in the video
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apparently they do address that they should start saying things in the epsiode rather than black boxxing


Anyway's someone managed to calc the sun disc to star level using only the highest of high ends for the planet size. His mid ball was "brown dwarf" level
 
Deidalius said:
Wow, what a fall from grace

You know, I think they should do more stuff like that, I know there are people who are still salty about that matchup, but there are also a lot of people who defend Death Battle for their verdict in that fight

Death Battle is pretty much doing the same thing, putting the important calculations in the black boxes rather than address them in the video
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For example, I think Ben vs Hal is a wash for Hal, I have seen the arguments for Hal, and they make more sense than the arguments for Ben since Hal is faster, resists what Ben can do, can be scaled higher, can have better haxes, etc.
EJthe24th said:
I feel like at that moment, they realized "no matter how much we explain it to our fans, there will always be a loud minority who won't accept"
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What was their fault. They didn't nail it enough how much faster Hal is than Ben, nor did they explain well their reasonings. Even Death Battle dicksuckers pointed that out.
SlendVeny said:
I honestly don't think they should be obligated to "address" issues with calcs, it really isn't a big deal. But I don't really watch Death Battle, so whatever.
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They got paid 730k by the fans, I think we deserve better explanations rather than them running away to their hugboxes. It can't be that hard to publicly address the opposing arguments after you release an episode. I mean, if you already researched the characters, just record yourself doing a QnA to what the haters say.
EJthe24th said:
I feel like at that moment, they realized "no matter how much we explain it to our fans, there will always be a loud minority who won't accept it, so why bother?"
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tbh sometimes I have felt angry about their outcomes, but I changed my mind after hearing more about their reasoning
 
Bigdongus said:
Wait, all that ******** on doomers and now this defense and you don’t watch the show? Wtf why are you posting in the thread for a show you don’t watch?
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I watch the stuff, I'm just casual about it. Also, I was objectively right on the doomer thing, the channel factually came back.
 
Lord_Farquaad69420 said:
Gaara vs toph is like 10 years old, are people still using that? Cause like vsbw had scarlet king at 5D a few years back lmfao


If your going to shit on deathbattle scaling, at least use more recent examples
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I was using Gaara vs Toph as an example because it was a while ago, so there isn't much contention anymore.
 
Deidalius said:
What was their fault. They didn't nail it enough how much faster Hal is than Ben, nor did they explain well their reasonings. Even Death Battle dicksuckers pointed that out.
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Yeah, it was. But it also didn't help when Kuro the Artist decided to pit his Omnitrix in the race and try to debunk the episode, which didn't help matters.

Deidalius said:
They got paid 730k by the fans, I think we deserve better explanations rather than them running away to their hugboxes. It can't be that hard to publicly address the opposing arguments after you release an episode. I mean, if you already researched the characters, just record yourself doing a QnA to what the haters say.
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I do miss those days...

Deidalius said:
tbh sometimes I have felt angry about their outcomes, but I changed my mind after hearing more about their reasoning
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Yeah, but not everyone is like us. If we get mad about the outcome, we take it on the chin and move on.

That's not the case with certain fan groups. Like even when Death Battle is right when a certain character loses, none of their fan bases take it well.

Case in point, the Ben 10 fan base still refuse to accept that Ben loses to Hal. Berserk fans were upset when Guts lost to Dimitri. Sonic fans were stewing when he lost to Mario at the time.

When you keep dealing with those types of people from time to time, you'd eventually just handwave it all and just try to move on
 
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