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They also assume the sun disk stays in constant orbit naturally and that there aren't any sort of mechanisms in place to keep it where it is
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DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (2024–2025) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)
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I meant the analysis portions, not the fight animation.
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Joker. He heavily outstats to the point where GER won't matter
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So many assumptions. So many different calcs. The sun disc is a complete ******* meme.
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My bad slime
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Didn't they mention the Toei one in a black box?
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Okay, getting serious a bit on expanding what I've already said, this was still a fun fight. Yeah the analysis is very divisive, probably one of the most on modern DB. But it was still fun, and when has rough research stopped us from watching, when it ain't that serious. In the end these are just nerds (friendly manner) making stories through fights, it never was that serious.
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Which one was worst, the wanked cloud feat in Sasuke vs Hiei or the wanked Sun Disk feat in Bardock vs Omni-Man?
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Also both times someone was sent to the sun in Dragon Ball, they also had a Kamehameha blast to contend with too, not just the sun
Not to mention the sun f*cking went supernova when cooler hit it, and guess what, sun was fine
Not to mention the sun f*cking went supernova when cooler hit it, and guess what, sun was fine
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I need to rewatch the episode a few more times to come to a firm conclusion on where it ranks amongst my favorite Dragon Ball episodes, but I'm definitely leaning into it making my top 5 for sure and possibly top 3.
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The black box mentioning it gets results only slightly higher than what we have for the canon version of the Supernova, while Vegeta and King Vegetas feats getting all the way to star level can be contenious it's pretty generally agreed that Frieza obliterating planet Vegeta in toei is legit star to large star levels.
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They probably didn't have as big a budget, so yeah I can see where your coming from
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If good amimation was the only qualifier, GvS2 would be a far better episode than it's considered.
I don't hate the new episode, but the analysis is so silly that it brings it down to a 7 or 6 out of 10 for me. Which is still fairly decent territory all things considered.
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I mean, it's a lot easier to park something at a Langrange Point than it is to create something that constantly adjusts the position of an object in space. We use Lagrange Points for stuff like that in real life, just look at the JWST space telescope as an example.
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Sun disk, easily. Good lord, is it next level dog-water, as soon as you start asking questions.
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No, they mentioned DBS Broly’s calc and Vegeta destroying Arlia’s. (In the black box).
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Gotcha.
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Joker, but I'm praying Giorno wins because that would be so funny.
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Ah yeah nah the Hiei cloud thing was 10kx worse. I think the 'perspective shot' logic was straight up back-to-front.
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We have Toei Planet Vegeta calc at 3.7k quettatons. He did it with one finger, and SSJ Bardock most likely scales above it to some degree, but yeah
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I agree, I still had fun with it. I'm just glad the show is back (even if they can be... well, controversial).
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This must be what it felt like to be rooting for discord
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I actually don't think the animation in that was all too good, honestly! Mo-cap has not aged well in the slightest.
Yeah, that's fair. From the way I worded what I typed out, it comes off as odd, but a majority of what I posted is my own thoughts on the matter.
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I personally think the sun Disk simply by virtue of it affecting the results of a fight between 2 characters I really liked while the cloud feat led to Sasuke losing and it was wonderful
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They wont give Joker the stats of the site, for all we know, could be universal with mftl+
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Jokes on you: I'm an MLP fan AND a Bleach fan. All I know is botched Death Battle results.
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As for the next time (Joker vs Giorno) - I genuinely do not think Joker needs 1-A SMT wank to win (depending on how much people buy into anywhere near Uni Jojo's). Depends which Persona's they actually give Joker, or just use the options as a catch all 'he wins more scenarios'.
This does NOT mean that he wins via stuff like Jung shit that P5 characters aren't as personally willing to apply. Make that known right now.
This does NOT mean that he wins via stuff like Jung shit that P5 characters aren't as personally willing to apply. Make that known right now.
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I bet the people who made that one blog that had Omni-Man beat Bardock are feeling extremely vindicated right about now.
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Oh so that's what they gave for the Sun Disk Feat.
Planet Vegeta's destruction has been calc is 3,704.59 Quettatons.
Freize put in more effect in his quick skirmish with Vegeta in his First Form than he did destroying his planet.
This Begeta has a power level of 250,000
SSDock has a power level of 500,000
Bare minimum Bardock should scale to twice of Planet Vegeta's destruction so around 7409.18 Quettatons.
It's still lower than this wank but with an ungodly speed advantage he'd still reasonably win.
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The canyon section in GvS2 is some of the best action Death Battle has to offer. Every thing else was generally okay
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Wasn't Sasuke vs Hiei sabotoged or something?
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At least the Bleach anime is back, and it's sick! Hopefully if Bleach gets on the show again, it gets treated better.
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It's straight up misinformation as this point.
Hinging the entire argument off the sun disc, with calculations that range from pentatons to quettatons, while completely ignoring the Viltrum bust context is insanity.
It's essentially manufactured an Omniman win no matter what. Why go off a feat with so many assumptions, no visible explosion, and it completely goes against the entire narrative of Invincible.
You're telling me a random ship can output star level power? But couldn't pop into Viltrum and destroy it with utter ease? What the ****
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I still don't really enjoy the animation used there, but it could likely be the models effecting my opinion
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This hits different because I gave these guys money. I spent money on... that.
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