DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (2024–2025) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

[SpecterSkater]

Why is everyone saying Ghost Rider stomps Spawn? I thought this fight was close and it came down to their powers and abilities.

I think a lot of it comes from the fact that Ghost Rider whoops Mephisto, who when fighting Galactus threatened the entire Marvel Multiverse as a byproduct. It was brought up as a throwaway line back during GR vs Lobo, but now that we've had Galactus in a proper fight for even more scaling I don't believe that Image Comics has a cosmology anywhere close to that.

 

[Tipper17]

 

[Livinmeme]

We don't need to go down this route

We need to go that route. Also funny how the character that defeated Kratos is going against someone that counters him...Curious

 

[Maskofthedragon]

I wouldn't be shocked if Spawn is massively under-researched but I would not bet money on a win or a loss

 

[MrKerf]

I am not angry, but a bit disappointed. I wanted some fakeouts like Asura climbing from Naraka mid fight, or QTEs shown and overpowered. I guess there was so much more they could have used but they didn’t. Also I see now what DArtemis meant when he said Asura was out of character.

That Alternate Ending was cool though.

 

[EJthe24th]

Rewashing the fight...yeah, I actually enjoy it still, a solid #3 imo

 

[EJthe24th]

I am not angry, but a bit disappointed. I wanted some fakeouts like Asura climbing from Natalia mid fight, or QTEs shown and overpowered.

Would've been nice to see

I guess there was so much more they could have used but they didn’t. Also I see now what DArtemis meant when he said Asura was out of character.

Think it was something the writing insisted on?

 

[TsukasayaEmmaDCD]

How high are we thinking they scale Spawn?

 

[Lukewoesal007]

Tbf how many casuals even know persona or played them in life, jojo was also among the most popular characters after the anime of part 5 appeared

At least in my experiences interacting with the Megami Tensei fandom and the gaming community in general, Persona (or at least Persona 5) is actually quite popular and well-known in the public conscious, especially since the release of Royal and 3 Reload. I've seen public figures in the community who otherwise have no interest in either Persona or the 'JRPG' genre as a whole express their interest in Persona 5 (and more recently, Metaphor.)

That being said, the people who would be most likely to watch a Death Battle video with a Persona and JJBA character would be more dedicated fans of either or both series, and the last time both series peaked in their number of "dedicated fans" was either in 2019, around the time the Part 5 adaptation was finishing up and Persona 5 was only two years old, or in 2020, when Persona 5 Royal just released and the Part 5 adaptation was only about a year old.

 

[Tipper17]

I can only give this fight a 7/10 at best

 

[0ホルスファルコン将軍0]

 

[HenshinIntervention]

Just about sums up my experience

 

[NotoriouSoda]

Me fr

 

[Jimmy.robinson.5099]

Part of me wonders if they should have waited until after WilleTom to do this, though I also doubt it would change much...

 

[HenshinIntervention]

I scoured through the DB subreddit and there's a large amount of people that expressed their frustration with "chain scaling" and how DB "prioritizes" that over direct feats. A handful bring up comic book related examples

Most complaints boil down to

Death Battle thinks 'Character A who scales to character B who is relative to character C who shouldn't be too much weaker than character D who performs some feat' is better than 'Character A performs this feat'

 

[Ayewale]

This battle was pretty good, I 100% believe people are just salty because of 'lore-scaling' or what have you.

Okay there are fair issues to be had with animation/characterization but still!

 

[Ayewale]

I scoured through the DB subreddit

I mean if my 'better than', they mean 'the feat for the first example is greater than the feat for the second', then yes. The implication here is that since Kratos's scaling chains have a lot of people in it, Kratos should magically be weaker than Asura, which is very emblematic of the state of this battle's discourse

 

[Ayewale]

Kratos 'never appearing to be on the backfoot' seems to have a funny interpretation of what backfoot means. He's caught off guard what feels like six different times in the battle and goes into his berserker rage shout at least twice?

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Ironically it seems like Dante vs Kratos would've been more interesting in terms of animation potential and debate despite having weaker connections.

Though I personally like this MU more so lol

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Ironically it seems like Dante vs Kratos would've been more interesting in terms of animation potential and debate despite having weaker connections.

Though I personally like this MU more so lol

Yeah sums up my thoughts tbh. Plus Dante already has a Bayonetta as an MU which I feel is more thematic and interesting than Dante Vs Kratos so eh.

 

[TsukasayaEmmaDCD]

Honestly. Just feels so weird to see casual don't know how asura loses in this. Despite the obvious blade of Olympus gg

 

[ZeNoviceArtist]

 

[Tipper17]

Kratos 'never appearing to be on the backfoot' seems to have a funny interpretation of what backfoot means. He's caught off guard what feels like six different times in the battle and goes into his berserker rage shout at least twice?

He never felt threaten nor look like he was out threw a ringer he barely tried at all in the fight
The best Asura could get outta him at the end at his peak was a smirk

 

[Tipper17]

This battle was pretty good, I 100% believe people are just salty because of 'lore-scaling' or what have you.

Okay there are fair issues to be had with animation/characterization but still!

I don't care about the outcome I had Kratos winning
I don't like what I got very much especially when it was hyped up the ass

 

[Greatsage13th]

The fight really gives off the "Goku Vs Superman 2" vibes.

 

[Jeodood]

When ya about no diff ya opponent via lore scaling

plz get a kamen rider ep so they have to deal with it lore scaling( and super sentai) (even tho everyone fights in the city and react that CG budget)

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

The fight really gives off the "Goku Vs Superman 2" vibes.

Ok yeah, that's just a no. Even if the execution wasn't the best, it was clear that they actually cared about making this episode.

GvS2 was an episode you can clearly tell was made out of spite.

 

[CharlesZaGreat]

 

[LegendariumOfLies]

I can only give this fight a 7/10 at best

That's generous. I am at a 5/10

 

[LegendariumOfLies]

Why is Kratos just standing still?

 

[LegendariumOfLies]

ROOTING GHOST RIDER. He is one of my fav chars. Probably mean he is going to lose.

 

[Tipper17]

The fight really gives off the "Goku Vs Superman 2" vibes.

The alt ending felt like a pity crumb

 

[AnAverageUsername]

Why is Kratos just standing still?

Cutscene accurate to AW

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

ROOTING GHOST RIDER. He is one of my fav chars. Probably mean he is going to lose.

I mean, considering they using cosmology scaling, Ghost Rider is probably cooking Spawn unless Spawn has some super powerful thing up his sleeve that we don't know about.

 

[RiloKileyFan]

Have they said anything about going forward if they'll give alternative endings to every ep? Because if not...

The alt ending felt like a pity crumb

then this will just come across as very pity and biased. why do certain characters get special treatment and others don't?

 

[AnAverageUsername]

I mean, considering they using cosmology scaling, Ghost Rider is probably cooking Spawn unless Spawn has some super powerful thing up his sleeve that we don't know about.

Can potentially be scaled to Mark, who can be scaled to the sun disk

 

[TsukasayaEmmaDCD]

Spawn can possibly get Archie cosmology scaling

 

[Greatsage13th]

Spawn can possibly get Archie cosmology scaling

...come again?

 

[TsukasayaEmmaDCD]

...come again?

Meant that as a joke. Since spawn appeared in Archie sonic

 

[MarvelFanatic119]

Kratos vs Asura was....okay to me.

Same gripes with it as everyone else (Asura transforming too fast, Kratos showing little to no damage in the fight, etc).

Find it weird people are upset about the 'lore' scaling for VG characters when this was a thing since Chosen Undead vs Dragonborn.

Nice to see Ghost Rider and Spawn have another DB. That's about it really.