DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

[The_Unknown_Warrior1]

Tbf, Resurrection Stones are only useable when Kratos has someone to use them on him (like Atreus or Freya) so they won't matter much in this fight.

But you know what? That point about Hope is actually something to consider: assuming that DB ends up giving Kratos Power of Hope, which is more than possible, then I don't know if Asura will be able to kill Kratos since the latter can come back as long as there's Hope.

 

[BlackDarkness679]

Doomsday and Hulk with their return from death capabilities went under the idea if they cant return soon enough to continue they lose, former had under their logic the edge he couldnt die by anything Hulk had in his arsenal that was new, while latter under their logic lost cuz total obliteration meant he cant return any soon to fight Broly

So it should work like this too, if Asura cant return any soon from death he loses and same to Kratos

 

[Huzy]

Tbf, Resurrection Stones are only useable when Kratos has someone to use them on him (like Atreus or Freya) so they won't matter much in this fight.

In the base game of Ragnarök and 2018 the companion is the one who holds the stone while in Valhalla the stones are held by Kratos himself which allows him to use them without needing either Atreus or Freya.

Escaping the afterlife is also like a casual afternoon activity for Kratos at this point. Hel is pretty easy to escape from and I doubt any Valkyrie would even take him to Valhalla without his consent considering they're all his subordinates now.

 

[TartaChocholate]

Did people genuinely think Giorno was gonna win, I thought we were all joking about that

I think another factor is that GER has this incredible amount of hype as one of the most powerful things in fiction among fans, especially those who aren't into VS stuff. Mix that with the "GER is so powerful, I bet Joker has nothing that compares to it" mindset.

 

[BlackDarkness679]

Tbf how many casuals even know persona or played them in life, jojo was also among the most popular characters after the anime of part 5 appeared

 

[ShinMaximillion]

I think another factor is that GER has this incredible amount of hype as one of the most powerful things in fiction among fans, especially those who aren't into VS stuff. Mix that with the "GER is so powerful, I bet Joker has nothing that compares to it" mindset.

The hype is dying out now; recently, I've seen an influx on the Wonder of U train though but I guess that's to be expected. Fun fact most of the people who think about the "I bet Joker is nothing compared to GER" mindset didn't even know about Persona as a series; I'd bet.

I'm less surprised at that and more surprised at how there was little to no drama following the Death Battle.

 

[AnAverageUsername]

No matter what, my faith in Asura is 100% genuine and unclouded. He will be the one to win, because I believe.

 

[ShinMaximillion]

No matter what, my faith in Asura is 100% genuine and unclouded. He will be the one to win, because I believe.

Kratos got the good ol' lore scaling; so I'd say it's about a genuine 50/50

 

[TMaakkonen]

I mean tbh, some of Kratos' resurrections had help. Then again how much would Zeus creating a hole count when most work was done by Kratos.

 

[Tipper17]

The hype is dying out now; recently, I've seen an influx on the Wonder of U train though but I guess that's to be expected. Fun fact most of the people who think about the "I bet Joker is nothing compared to GER" mindset didn't even know about Persona as a series; I'd bet.

I'm less surprised at that and more surprised at how there was little to no drama following the Death Battle.

Because the MU popularity peaked years ago, Persona isn't exactly a big name in vs outside the community and folks who care about it don't give a shit about vs stuff,GER hype died down over the years etc

 

[Tipper17]

Omni-dock was a generational fumble that people aren't going to talk about as much because Dragon Ball fans are public enemy number one among the researchers and a lot of the fandom because 'muh salty fanboys'.

That's only the community and even everyone agrees that Bardock should've won

 

[BlackDarkness679]

That's only the community and even everyone agrees that Bardock should've won

Some reaction channels werent convinced bardock wins and they are casuals

 

[Tipper17]

Some reaction channels werent convinced bardock wins and they are casuals

and those few reactions channels are morons
no different how there were folks that agree on ryu beating jin to this day despite T8

 

[BlackDarkness679]

and those few reactions channels are morons

Tbf most werent buying it for bardock cuz they used the "should be comparable to goku from that time or king vegeta from that time" which was more guess work how death battle presented it

no different how there were folks that agree on ryu beating jin to this day despite T8

Jin was beating him before T8 and T7 existed though and only braindead youtubers or redditors still believe Ryu wins cuz they wank with concepts bs for tier 1 or crossovers, especially the one redditor guy in the death battle reddit whom takes everything at face value

 

[Tipper17]

Tbf most werent buying it for bardock cuz they used the "should be comparable to goku from that time or king vegeta from that time" which was more guess work how death battle presented it

Ii get it in terms of the speed fear but the rest is easy to get when u look at basic power levels at the time and understand how DB operates most of those who doubt didn't know shit

Jin was beating him before T8 and T7 existed though and only braindead youtubers or redditors still believe Ryu wins cuz they wank with concepts bs for tier 1 or crossovers, especially the one redditor guy in the death battle reddit whom takes everything at face value

Which goes to my point there always gonna a few idiots that think otherwise

 

[BlackDarkness679]

Ii get it in terms of the speed fear but the rest is easy to get when u look at basic power levels at the time and understand how DB operates most of those who doubt didn't know shit

Tbf also they presented omniman compared to bardock in a way that made many think former was more impressive, they werent too familiar with how power levels work or simply being told around by others they are bullshit like the abridged

 

[TMaakkonen]

I dont think DB thinks they messed up with NolanBardock. Seems too sudden to realize.

 

[BlackDarkness679]

They couldnt even answer the concerns at hand like the 3 viltrumites one

 

[Tipper17]

I dont think DB thinks they messed up with NolanBardock. Seems too sudden to realize.

They couldnt even answer the concerns at hand like the 3 viltrumites one

They just resorted to well it's about interpretation and tried to go about head canon arguments about the planet being anything special

There only hope in the TV series validated it in some way but same TV series had Nolan nearly attempt suicide via black hole so uh good luck on that

 

[NotoriouSoda]

They just resorted to well it's about interpretation and tried to go about head canon arguments about the planet being anything special

There only hope in the TV series validated it in some way but same TV series had Nolan nearly attempt suicide via black hole so uh good luck on that

Ermmm black holes are Solar System lv not star level

 

[TsukasayaEmmaDCD]

Just still insane, that the only blunder so far is just Omnidock this season.

 

[Tipper17]

Just still insane, that the only blunder so far is just Omnidock this season.

its crazy when that one was an easy layup
at worst if they didn't inlcude ssj ya can see some arguments for a nolan w to a degree but a ssj bardock just slams no matter what

 

[ZeedKZ]

 

[ZeNoviceArtist]

Man, Norse Kratos does not have good yelling renders.

You see the soyjak too right? Just edit in glasses and you can't unsee it.

 

[Tipper17]

Im starting this year with a Kratos W

 

[TsukasayaEmmaDCD]

LET FEATSMAN WIN AND MY LIFE IS YOURS DEATH BATTLE

 

[The_Unknown_Warrior1]

Ah **** it: I think @AnAverageUsername has shaken my faith in Kratos enough to make me see an Asura W.

I will even offer up the souls of both my grandma's should I end up being wrong and Kratos does win

 

[Dust_Collector]

DEATH BATTLE!!! Golden tree the cosmic feats in GOW and let Asura beat Kratos, and my life is yours...

 

[TsukasayaEmmaDCD]

My matchups werent gonna happen anyway

 

[Tipper17]

 

[ZeedKZ]

Thoughts about the track name?

 

[Super_Ascended_Sean_Pazdera]

Because scaling every trainer to Creation Trio is shiiit.

And frankly useless because same logic makes Digimon way higher.

I didn't scale Red to the Creation Trio. Obviously he does get that high as of USUM, much less Masters where he also becomes a hax monster, but that didn't come out till well after the Death Battle.

I wouldn't call it "same" logic, especially since this site scales Adventure to Composite Alphamon.

 

[Tipper17]

Thoughts about the track name?

Seems like there going the ikari route but Norse this time don't mind it

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

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I agree with a majority of this blog, save for the stats and the conclusion.

 

[XXBenShapiroXx]

I agree with a majority of this blog, save for the stats and the conclusion.

Yeah Natsu's DF is realistically makes him hundreds of times stronger, Asta doesn't really have any good arguement for any sort of AP advantage. And given Natsu's physicals scale to his magic, Asta's anti-magic will have a hard time being useful.

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

Yeah Natsu's DF is realistically makes him hundreds of times stronger, Asta doesn't really have any good arguement for any sort of AP advantage. And given Natsu's physicals scale to his magic, Asta's anti-magic will have a hard time being useful.

Now, make it a three-way (pause) between Meli, who wins that one?

 

[AnAverageUsername]

I'll keep saying it, Mash vs Asta is THE ONE for both on a thematic and closeness level

 

[XXBenShapiroXx]

Now, make it a three-way (pause) between Meli, who wins that one?

Load bearing pause

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

I'll keep saying it, Mash vs Asta is THE ONE for both on a thematic and closeness level

Facts

 

[HenshinIntervention]

Omni-dock was a generational fumble that people aren't going to talk about as much because Dragon Ball fans are public enemy number one among the researchers and a lot of the fandom because 'muh salty fanboys'.

Omni-Dock was embarrassing