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Manga Asura seems to have so much wrath it couldnt be syphoned there.
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DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)
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Built different
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So gaslighting someone only to have them lose basically
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Yeah, like TOBA in Hulk vs Broly and the Golden Tree itself in Beast vs Goliath
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Would be crazy if they have Kratos lose to Asura despite former stats having a bigger scaling chain and more varied arsenal
Stefano4444
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If they can reasonable prove that Asura's resistances are enough to counter Kratos's superior hax and weapons to allow his AD to kick it and give him the chance to surpass and overpower Kratos, then he can win.
If not then Kratos shoud logically be able to keep weak him and keep him from getting too strong with his arsenal until he its able to permanently kill Asura.
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Yeah Kratos is winning this, it's a no brainer really. Not Spongebob vs Aquaman levels of bad I don't think cause there is some nuance to this fight but everything just seems stacked in Kratos's favour and I much prefer Asura personally I'm preparing myself for the inevitable Asura bros it's joeover 
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I doubt Asura resists everything Kratos has for powers and weapons
Stefano4444
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Not all of them, but they can argue that Asura can resistance to the most broken stuff like Soul Manipulation, Energy Absorption, Petrification and Time Stop.
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Ngl this waiting time is brutal
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Soul manip, time stop i will give you, but how on energy draining and petrification?
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Dust_Collector
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Does Asura actually have any arguments for resisting time stop? I thought he constantly gets affected by Chakravartins own time stop during the final boss fight.
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he's able to move anytime the latter trys to hurt him during it
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Therewolf is on the track for the fight
he said this is his longest score for a Death Battle
"Yeah for sure. I think I have said it here before, but I have always wanted for DBs to longer (for some episodes at least). So I was extremely excited when I found out I was going to make my longest score for Death Battle. Devilartemis has gone above and beyond so I made it a point to do the same. The whole thing is absolutely insane."
he said this is his longest score for a Death Battle
"Yeah for sure. I think I have said it here before, but I have always wanted for DBs to longer (for some episodes at least). So I was extremely excited when I found out I was going to make my longest score for Death Battle. Devilartemis has gone above and beyond so I made it a point to do the same. The whole thing is absolutely insane."
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NGL, just from the sound of it, this might genuinely be a top 5 DB fight of all time.
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Ngl
I see a lot of copium from the Asursa crowd here. I get it feats man’s go brrrrr, but yall are giving him too much credit for his resistance to Kratos haxs and abilities. Like some of the arguments don’t really hold up to scrutiny.
I see a lot of copium from the Asursa crowd here. I get it feats man’s go brrrrr, but yall are giving him too much credit for his resistance to Kratos haxs and abilities. Like some of the arguments don’t really hold up to scrutiny.
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I’m just saying a lot of you guys were saying Joker would lose to Giorno. I was one of the few who believed and I’ll put as much faith in Asura as I did Joker. He will clutch up, just you watch.
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I've seen arguements for resistance to like three haxes lol
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I think its easier to argue that since Asura naturally petrifies when he dies, he'd be able to come back from it
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He already survives deep space travel though?
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I'm not saying he resist all of Kratos hax at best he resist like 2-3 maybe 4 being real
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Just read to get some context on his absorption resistance, but it required extreme amounts of rage and yet another "I will stop my daughter's tears" line so unless we have Kratos talking shit or harming Asura's daughter his rage shouldn't be that much which should affect how powerful his resists are.
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That dosen't make sense to me, it implies he dies when petrified instead of his soul being trapped in his body. Which is almost surly what actually happens given Kratos breaks out of it without needing to revive
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Not even remotely equivalent. Deep space can't freeze you instantly because there's no real medium around you for heat transfer to occur so you'll lose very small amounts of heat due to radiation.
The axe on the other hand can produce ice so cold that it can keep actual lightning bolts frozen for over a century under constant exposure to sunlight.
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Like the best case for that aurgment is that Kratos could leave the head In A position where it's always staring at Asura and no matter how much he leaves the after life he's always just thrown back to it by being turned to stone
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Don't we take characters at their reasonable peak/maximum?
That rage boost isn't an external thing, it's all Asura's power, no external amp, so I don't understand this arguement.
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Uhhhh? I'm not sure what you're trying to say, but he doesn't die when petrified, but instead his body naturally does so when he does die, for some reason. And then he can come back from it. Unless im misreading this, which is likely since I only woke up just a couple of minutes ago.
Well Asura probably has some crazy melting feats or something through his energy or whatever
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You're giving him power he can't logically have in the scenario presented.
This is like saying the Hulk should always be World Buster because the only difference is how mad he is and if an opponent would make him that mad shouldn't need to be a factor
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Except we've given Hulk World Buster twice lol
I feel like you have to split hairs to justify not giving Asura his own full arsenal when it's literally just him getting angry
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And death battle acknowledged each time it would take some time for him to get mad and he could be put down before that. Hulk is an individual that will get made the longer he fights. Azure is an individual who is mad about a very specific thing. They are not the same
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They never made a 'oh before World breaker' arguement in either episode. In the first episode all they said he would tire out and his anger would diminish, and in the second one it said he would get overwhelmed before catching up.
So we are just back to hair splitting
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Honestly, is Asura's AD that much of a significant advantage for him? Kratos' got AD arguments as well, and from what I can tell it works just as fast.
Add onto Kratos scaling to the likes of Thor, who can affect the nine universe sized Yggdrasil, I don't think AD and growing in power is going to help out much when Kratos is already much stronger and grows in battle as well.
Add onto Kratos scaling to the likes of Thor, who can affect the nine universe sized Yggdrasil, I don't think AD and growing in power is going to help out much when Kratos is already much stronger and grows in battle as well.
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Apparently he grew from planet level to universesal.and that's why people say it's so high
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I feel like this leads to another conversation about how high AD is allowed to go. Presumably all AD has a limit can it really be expected to let him to grow with power beyond multiple universes?
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I saw a reddit post that breaks it down
TLDR: is Asura's AD is objectively faster but given it used the G1 blog for stats, Kratos' inferior AD is just icing on the cake because it would never let Asura catch up to begin with
Asura's AD is blatantly faster, but if they have remotely similar speeds or AP Kratos' own AD can give him more than enough time to out hax Asura.
So it's a undeniable boon and Asura's biggest win con, but the stars have to align for it to do anything
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