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DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (2024–2025) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

So based on quantifiable numbers they had Bowser as 6.6 x faster and 158 x stronger than Eggman's best.
That's why he's the GOAT

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Hello Kitty, or rather, Kitty White, isn't helpless.

Besides the Japanese, official manga where she operates a mech, IIRC, there's some "Hello Kitty: Roller Rescue" game where she fights an alien invasion, & there's feats like knocking down a tree & wall-breaking even early game.

However, she suffers from small size scaling due to how "Her height is described as five apples and her weight as three apples.". Generous estimates put her at like, half a meter tall.
Though some media portrays her at different sizes, apparently.

IDK what she has via crossovers, but I'm not sure there is much even there.

Funnily enough, there might be scaling that puts her way higher via Onegai My Melody (Magic & monster of the week stuff. Has at least 1 huge meteor, there might be some planet destruction like stuff in a dream, among other things & hax.), but....
Kitty White's only appearance in that series is as someone watching it on TV in the eyecatch. She'd only scale because the other characters are her friends she regularly interacts with in other series. (Like in the Roller Rescue game.)

So I guess it depends how we treat Sanrio canon.
 
What kind of MUs are these?
Crocodile vs Giovanni makes sense: Both are mafia-like bosses fought early on in long running series. Crocodile has Sand Powers, Giovanni is a Ground-type specialist, especially in his gym, & as shown in his repeat appearances like in the PWT in Gen 5, & as indicated by his badge being the Earth Badge.

IDK what connections Ruby & Finn have other than being heroic protagonists.

The Frieza Force/Planet Trade Federation & The Empire from Star Wars are both organized space villain forces with a wide variety of aliens in their ranks & known for the destruction of at least 1 planet: Frieza destroyed Planet Vegeta, & Vader is associated with the Death Star, which destroyed Alderaan.

Hope that helps. No offense meant.
Please let me know if that was useful &/or interesting or not!
 
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If you ignore the entire ending of the game you could argue he's Multiversal via being above the 3 golden goddesses since he could seal them, and then Ganondorf scales above that due to having the Triforce of Power which by Null's own admission is >>>> his base power.

I don't buy it, Null couldn't pull off a planetary feat even with the Triforce of Power and explictly needed the full thing in order to destroy the universe... which kinda goes against him being superior to the goddesses who made the universe (And millions more lol). Null even states he can't return creation to the void without their power, and him being able to seal them away doesn't really mean anything other than he has really good sealing. Some also might argue the goddesses opting to make the world to seal him away means he was too powerful to defeat, but all we got for their reasoning to do this boils down to "Yeah we found him annoying and cringe for eating life so we made a physical world to put him in time out". In terms of raw power he's pretty much Ocarina of Time temple boss level due to being in the same ballpark as Volvagia who appears in this game as an echo)
Null's the ultimate bait.
 
Hello Kitty, or rather, Kitty White, isn't helpless.

Besides the Japanese, official manga where she operates a mech, IIRC, there's some "Hello Kitty: Roller Rescue" game where she fights an alien invasion, & there's feats like knocking down a tree & wall-breaking even early game.

However, she suffers from small size scaling due to how "Her height is described as five apples and her weight as three apples.". Generous estimates put her at like, half a meter tall.
Though some media portrays her at different sizes, apparently.

IDK what she has via crossovers, but I'm not sure there is much even there.

Funnily enough, there might be scaling that puts her way higher via Onegai My Melody (Magic & monster of the week stuff. Has at least 1 huge meteor, there might be some planet destruction like stuff in a dream, among other things & hax.), but....
Kitty White's only appearance in that series is as someone watching it on TV in the eyecatch. She'd only scale because the other characters are her friends she regularly interacts with in other series. (Like in the Roller Rescue game.)

So I guess it depends how we treat Sanrio canon.
She prolly has some beyond busted stuff in more obscure media. But that doesn't take away the hilarity of seeing one of Japan's de facto mascto fo cuteness beating bona fide anime tough guy Goku.
 
Yu vs Yugi was a thing at one point
Yuse Fudo vs Jotaro was a thing at one point
Yu Narukami or other Yu?
First time I've heard of Yusei vs Jotaro. Most of the time I've seen Yusei go against Wes from Pokemon.

The other one I know is Yuma Tsukumo vs Geo Stellar. Can'´t remember matchups for Yuya, Yusaku or Yuga, and much less for Yudias.
 
Yu Narukami or other Yu?
First time I've heard of Yusei vs Jotaro. Most of the time I've seen Yusei go against Wes from Pokemon.

The other one I know is Yuma Tsukumo vs Geo Stellar. Can'´t remember matchups for Yuya, Yusaku or Yuga, and much less for Yudias.
Yeah, Narukami
There’s also the Devil Survivor protags for Yuya and Yuma but like, no one in the community cares about Devil Survivor unfortunately
 
Take Boo possession, for example. The argument comes from them possessing statues in Mario Kart, and then extrapolating they will possess all of Eggman's machines out of it.
Tbf does Eggman actually have solid counters to supernatural non-tech based control.
 
I always wondered if Bowser would be considered a bad guy by Sonic or not. Because when it comes to his goal of kidnapping Princess Peach and conquering the Mushroom Kingdom: yeah, there's no excuses there.

But I wonder how Sonic would react to Bowser being someone who genuinely cares about and is protective of his minions, is a genuinely good dad to his several adopted children and biological son, and, from what I've heard happens in Brothership, offers up protection and food to those who are loyal to his army.
 
I always wondered if Bowser would be considered a bad guy by Sonic or not. Because when it comes to his goal of kidnapping Princess Peach and conquering the Mushroom Kingdom: yeah, there's no excuses there.

But I wonder how Sonic would react to Bowser being someone who genuinely cares about and is protective of his minions, is a genuinely good dad to his several adopted children and biological son, and, from what I've heard happens in Brothership, offers up protection and food to those who are loyal to his army.
Sonic i think would have a much better relationship with bowser than with Eggman and while he would stop him here n there he would prob think Bowser has the chance of turning good
tho depends how evil is Bowser at his peak
 
I wonder how eggman would react to the goofier "Joint Special attacks" Mario and Luigi can pull off
I mean, getting beaten by
something
Like 3:18 is sure to wound his ego.
 
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I always wondered if Bowser would be considered a bad guy by Sonic or not. Because when it comes to his goal of kidnapping Princess Peach and conquering the Mushroom Kingdom: yeah, there's no excuses there.

But I wonder how Sonic would react to Bowser being someone who genuinely cares about and is protective of his minions, is a genuinely good dad to his several adopted children and biological son, and, from what I've heard happens in Brothership, offers up protection and food to those who are loyal to his army.
Sonic might be able to pull a Shonen Anime protag with Bowser and redeem him, since he isn't pure evil
 
Sonic i think would have a much better relationship with bowser than with Eggman and while he would stop him here n there he would prob think Bowser has the chance of turning good
tho depends how evil is Bowser at his peak
Afaik: the most explicitly evil things that Bowser has done are turning Toads into blocks in the manual of the first Mario Bros game on the NES, conquering the universe on two separate occasions in the Galaxy games, and using the power of the Dream Stone to become a god and erase Mario and Luigi out of existence.

Now that shit in itself is pretty bad, but like...I don't think that Bowser has done ANYTHING as remotely evil as Eggman unleashing the Metal Virus upon the world. And that's just one of many examples, so I can see Sonic having a much more amicable relationship with Bowser compared to Eggman.
 
I wonder how eggman would react to the goofier "Joint Special attacks" Mario and Luigi can pull off
I mean, getring beaten by something like 3:18 is sure to wound his ego
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Sonic might be able to pull a Shonen Anime protag with Bowser and redeem him, since he isn't pure evil
Honestly, Maverick? I think that's actually possible.

I mean when Bowser isn't obsessed with Peach or wanting to destroy the Mario Bros, he's actually a genuinely decent guy who cares about the well being of his subjects and is willing to protect even the most insignificant of his troops (I'm specifically referring to the end of Brothership where Bowser goes out of his way to save two Goombas). Hell, from what I've heard, Bowser actually ends up offering protection and supplies to some of the islands of Concordia as long as they remain loyal to him.

So realistically speaking: if Sonic helped Bowser get past his hatred of Mario, his obsession with Peach, and convince him to quit trying to conquer the Mushroom Kingdom, I think there is a pretty decent chance that Bowser could become a good guy with the right guidance and mindset.
 
What feats does Fall Guys have, like genuinely

Right now I just see the matchup as a Spongebob vs Aquaman type fight
 
mb fall guys, I wasn't familiar with your game
I can see this episode being one of two ways, either something shockingly good like aquabob or popeye vs Saitama, or something really unfunny like machoaids
I really hope the episode doesn't feel like this
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