DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (2024–2025) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

Bro cooked good and gave us a five star meal

Facts

 

[ShrekAnakin]

Hey! That's my line!

Got another, based.

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

In your opinion, what was the worst Death Battle Analysis/ Most Poorly Explained?

Sasuke vs Hiei.
• Didn't use Boruto feats for Sasuke
• Said Hiei was immune to Sasuke's Amaterasu
• Used a Secondary Canon feat for Hiei

 

[JoshDoshMosh]

Alright, I ain’t even religious, like I’m a gay dude, but why you dissing Christians? Not cool

 

[Tipper17]

Sasuke vs Hiei.
• Didn't use Boruto feats for Sasuke
• Said Hiei was immune to Sasuke's Amaterasu
• Used a Secondary Canon feat for Hiei

they really lucky folks hated sasuke at the time otherwise this shit would be like now

 

[WCMM]

Alright, I ain’t even religious, like I’m a gay dude, but why you dissing Christians? Not cool

Eh, I'm used to it at this point. Thanks though.

 

[ShiftCtrlAltDeleteTabFn]

Yeah, I guess it has something to do with the big hitters of the mecha genre going against eachother, and maybe the Wing guy has connections to Shinji.

That makes sense.

Only problem is if DB would include impact stuff. Like, that's an Evangelion at their peak I believe, and there's some funky stuff with the additional impact wherever that scales, but it includes a lot of ifs to get to that point.

DEATH BATTLE would absolutely include the Impacts and stuff from the Rebuild movies.

 

[JoshDoshMosh]

Evangelion be goofy ngl

 

[WCMM]

So, Joker vs Giorno. As someone who knows next to nothing about either, can someone explain to me why Joker definitely wins, and why Giorno is also claimed to definitely be able to win, despite Joker definitely winning?

 

[JoshDoshMosh]

So, Joker vs Giorno. As someone who knows next to nothing about either, can someone explain to me why Joker definitely wins, and why Giorno is also claimed to definitely be able to win, despite Joker definitely winning?

Depends on whether you buy Joker being acausal and immune to Giornos hax. Cause of shit with Maruki and all that. Basically even if Joker is Uni+ and Giorno is building, Giorno has the ability to undo action automatically to protect himself ontop of nullifying powers and manipulating your willpower(which jokers powers are kinda powered by), so if Jokers not immune he kinda just eats shit.

 

[WCMM]

Okay, so, I know that JoJo is basically the house that hax and FTL street-tier characters built, and I know that Persona has some sort of crazy cosmology, and has to do with fighting in dreams or mindscapes or something, but beyond that I'm a bit lost.

 

[ShiftCtrlAltDeleteTabFn]

So, Joker vs Giorno. As someone who knows next to nothing about either, can someone explain to me why Joker definitely wins, and why Giorno is also claimed to definitely be able to win, despite Joker definitely winning?

I'm not as familiar with Persona (or Megami Tensei in general), but from what I know based on what Joker's profile says, he outstats Giorno in every possible way and resists literally all of Giorno's abilities.

As for why people say Giorno can win, it's because of one power-up he got: Golden Wind Requiem (better known as Golden Experience Requiem or GER for short). Basically, it's ability is to reset the actions of an opponent back to zero; it's casaulity manipulation, essentially. The thing is, the way it's presented in JoJo is very vague, and the way the ability is described is very open to interpretation. That can lead to people overestimating what it can do.

 

[ZeNoviceArtist]

In your opinion, what was the worst Death Battle Analysis/ Most Poorly Explained?

Lara Croft vs Nathan Drake, BenHal, YangTifa, the newest episode.

 

[ZeNoviceArtist]

So will Gioker be 2d or 3d?

 

[AcidSilver]

Also I guess Goku vs Superman 2 since they were just kinda straight up lying there

Pretty based ngl. I too lie to have my favored character win.

 

[JoshDoshMosh]

Okay, so, I know that JoJo is basically the house that hax and FTL street-tier characters built, and I know that Persona has some sort of crazy cosmology, and has to do with fighting in dreams or mindscapes or something, but beyond that I'm a bit lost.

Basically, if Joker doesn’t pull through, Joker will be turned into a normal dude in cosplay and a Glock. If he does, he shoots Giorno with a super Glock

I'm not as familiar with Persona (or Megami Tensei in general), but from what I know based on what Joker's profile says, he outstats Giorno in every possible way and resists literally all of Giorno's abilities.

As for why people say Giorno can win, it's because of one power-up he got: Golden Wind Requiem (better known as Golden Experience Requiem or GER for short). Basically, it's ability is to reset the actions of an opponent back to zero; it's casaulity manipulation, essentially. The thing is, the way it's presented in JoJo is very vague, and the way the ability is described is very open to interpretation. That can lead to people overestimating what it can do.

a lot of the stuff comes from SMT tho, which some(especially the Death Battle team) don’t buy, so it’s literally just the Maruki stuff and whatever happens in that one beat em up spin off

 

[ShiftCtrlAltDeleteTabFn]

So will Gioker be 2d or 3d?

I think it might be 3D since there are models for both of them.

 

[AnAverageUsername]

So will Gioker be 2d or 3d?

If it's 3d, it would probably be easier to have Joker use his other Personas. And I'd say both of their 3D models go well together.

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

So will Gioker be 2d or 3d?

Most likely 2nd likely every Jojo fight on DB.

 

[ShiftCtrlAltDeleteTabFn]

Basically, if Joker doesn’t pull through, Joker will be turned into a normal dude in cosplay and a Glock. If he does, he shoots Giorno with a super Glock

That is probably the funniest, yet accurate way to describe it.

a lot of the stuff comes from SMT tho, which some(especially the Death Battle team) don’t buy,

Wait, really? I thought they agreed with applying Megami Tensei scaling and lore to Persona?

so it’s literally just the Maruki stuff and whatever happens in that one beat em up spin off

There's also Persona Q2, I guess.

 

[JoshDoshMosh]

problem with 3D is Giorno and Joker’s models all ******* clash artstyles with eachother

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

So, Joker vs Giorno. As someone who knows next to nothing about either, can someone explain to me why Joker definitely wins, and why Giorno is also claimed to definitely be able to win, despite Joker definitely winning?

Joker takes nearly every single category in this MU. But here's the thing, Giorno has GER which can neat him the win if Joker doesn't resist....buuuut if the former does resist, then it's a stomp.

 

[JoshDoshMosh]

Wait, really? I thought they agreed with applying Megami Tensei scaling and lore to Persona?

I remember a lot of people saying they don’t, but could be wrong

There's also Persona Q2, I guess.

Imma be honest, I don’t play the spinoffs besides arena. I’m a fake fan, I know

 

[ShiftCtrlAltDeleteTabFn]

problem with 3D is Giorno and Joker’s models all ******* clash artstyles with eachother

I think Giorno's model from Eyes of Heaven or All-Star Battle and Joker's model from Smash Ultimate might look fine next to each other. Probably.

 

[ShiftCtrlAltDeleteTabFn]

I remember a lot of people saying they don’t, but could be wrong

Cool.

Imma be honest, I don’t play the spinoffs besides arena. I’m a fake fan, I know

That's more than me. I haven't played any Atlus game (as far as I know), let alone a Megami Tensei game. I'm just going off of our profiles and what I heard from other people.

 

[0ホルスファルコン将軍0]

I think Giorno's model from Eyes of Heaven or All-Star Battle and Joker's model from Smash Ultimate might look fine next to each other. Probably.

They could also use Giorno’s Last Survivor model which looks the cleanest of the bunch AND came out around the same time is SSBU.

 

[JoshDoshMosh]

That's more than me. I haven't played any Atlus game (as far as I know), let alone a Megami Tensei game. I'm just going off our profiles and what I heard from other people.

Persona is good if you like more anime and dating sim RPGs, SMT is good if you hate yourself

 

[CBslayeR]

I mean, if you restrict Doomguy to just his visual feats...

Nah, even that doesn't really do it.

bro straight up shifts dimensions in his fight with davoth lmao

 

[0ホルスファルコン将軍0]

SMT is good if you hate yourself

or hate organized religion, seriously SMT has straight up r/atheism type of fedora-tipping at times for Abrahamic faiths in their narratives but that’s par for the course when it comes to Sino-Japanese media

 

[ShrekAnakin]

Alright, I ain’t even religious, like I’m a gay dude, but why you dissing Christians? Not cool

I'm not dissing Christians (if you're referring to me). I'm complimenting them cause I'm a Christian myself. I just don't use chud as an insult anymore because right wingers owned chud as a term, twisting it from an insult to a compliment.

 

[JoshDoshMosh]

or hate organized religion, seriously SMT has straight up r/atheism type of fedora-tipping at times for Abrahamic faiths in their narratives but that’s par for the course when it comes to Sino-Japanese media

Yeeeeeeah, that too, but like that was a lot of media in like the late 80s- early 90s

 

[ShiftCtrlAltDeleteTabFn]

They could also use Giorno’s Last Survivor model which looks the cleanest of the bunch AND came out around the same time is SSBU.

Huh, I didn't know about that game. Neat.

 

[ShiftCtrlAltDeleteTabFn]

Persona is good if you like more anime and dating sim RPGs, SMT is good if you hate yourself

They've been on my list of games I want to play.

 

[ShiftCtrlAltDeleteTabFn]

or hate organized religion, seriously SMT has straight up r/atheism type of fedora-tipping at times for Abrahamic faiths in their narratives but that’s par for the course when it comes to Sino-Japanese media

There'e definitely some weird stuff there from I've seen, but eh, if the game's good I don't mind (I guess it helps that I'm not a follower of the Abrahamic religions, nor am I very religious anyway).

 

[WCMM]

To be fair, we dropped on atom bomb on the biggest center of Japanese Christianity, so, that might have something to do with it.

 

[JoshDoshMosh]

To be fair, we dropped on atom bomb on the biggest center of Japanese Christianity, so, that might have something to do with it.

That and they’re heavily xenophobic, they probably don’t appreciate the kinda forced westernization of their culture

 

[AnAverageUsername]

If Joker is to win the fight, it would be cool to have a hint of the "Our Beggining" letimof in the DB track at the end

 

[Jimmy.robinson.5099]

That and they’re heavily xenophobic, they probably don’t appreciate the kinda forced westernization of their culture

Does that include stuff like the new Assassin's Creed game? Apparently that one has quite a bit of controversy over there...

 

[JoshDoshMosh]

Does that include stuff like the new Assassin's Creed game? Apparently that one has quite a bit of controversy over there...

Supposedly a lot of them are western trolls but idk.
I don’t think Japan gives a shit about Assassins creed

 

[ShiftCtrlAltDeleteTabFn]

To be fair, we dropped on atom bomb on the biggest center of Japanese Christianity, so, that might have something to do with it.

There's something to that, but Japan has had an antagonistic relationship with Christianity at various times (just look up the persecution Christians faced under Toyotomi Hideyoshi and then under the Tokugawa Shogunate, starting with Tokugawa Ieyasu).