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Busoshoku Haki Huge Addition
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Ok, cool. Now we just list a shitton of resistances on there.
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Haki is pretty awesome, i still don’t get why was it so easy to get familiarized with a brand new power system 500 chapters into a story but here we are.
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That doesn't mean it 100% isn't the case. The SFX argument is fair but not as convincing as a straight explanation from the manga, so I'd still only consider it a possibility.
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It makes more sense. If vista swung from up to down he would've went through his entire body, same with marco through the side. The fact that they stopped at the edge says that it's not regular intangibility.
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Resistance to Heat and Fire Manipulation (Declined)
Regeneration Negation: Mid (TBA, likely Accepted)
Resistance to Spacial Manip (TBA, likely Accepted)
Resistance to Intangibility Negation and to Resistance Negation (TBA)
Resistance to Petrification, Paralysis, Corrosion, and Poison Manipulation (Petrification and Corrosion Accepted, Paralysis and Poison TBA, likely Declined)
Resistance to All Elements that fall under the Logia Category (TBA)
Extras (TBA, likely Accepted)
Should I tally up who agrees with what?
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Sure.
What’s TBA, though?
What’s TBA, though?
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Why will Extras likely be denied?
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Can I see why the heat resistance was denied?
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Now that I'm rereading it, there's no valid counter to heat resistance
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The only evidence for the Heat Resistance I can see is that Whitebeard's and Shank's weapons didn't melt in Akainu's presence. But what reason do we have to think they'd melt exactly? I don't think they'd be as weak as fodder's weapons.
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@KingTempest; that's evidence for Haki increasing the durability of blades. Increased durability doesn't necessarily imply increased heat resistance. (As far as I'm aware)
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Is it ever shown to protect PEOPLE from heat? if so, it could.
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Heat is a semi dura negator which is why Akainu has dura neg for burning and such.
Increased durability doesn't stop a metal weapon from getting vaporized/melted by heat, its heat. Heck, how are you gonna forge weapons without heat?
We don't even have reason to assume their blades are made out of a different material, they look like the exact same material minus the black blades. Even Cavendish's sword is just made out of flexible iron, nothing too special.
If we take a sword blocking a magma punch as anything but heat resistance, there's an issue. Sword should've been melted on contact if anything.
Heck, don't we take Akainu's attacks as dura neg and these same weapons blocked them?
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I mean, c'mon, we always could do that, literally the basic thing of a force field is to block all types of physical attacks, since there aren't gaps to gases or liquids to go through, the problem is that it does not cover the whole body so in the end it will be a partial barrier and partial resistances, since they aren't up at all times.
As for heat, forcefields can block it, and fire as well, since they block the heat transmission from reaching the protected object in the first place, i mean, that's the problem with giving resistance to most DF-based things, a force field would by itself deal with most of the things a DF can create due to most of them needing contact
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No way no way no way no way no way no way no way no way no way no way no way no way no way no way no way no way no way no way no way no way no way no way no way no way no way no way no way no way no way no way no way no way no way no way no way no way no way no way no way no way no way no way no way
DO YALL KNOW HOW MANY VERSUS THREADS I COULD'VE WON??????????
DO YALL KNOW HOW MANY VERSUS THREADS I COULD'VE WON??????????
This makes a lot of sense.
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Not at all, I geniunely didn't know about the forcefield portion of Buso and how we could've used it
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Are you talking about the scene or something like, shaking hands while using haki?
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How would that work with Ryou, though? It's a technique that involves using your armament haki to destroy things by sending your haki into them.
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In general, all contact with others using haki.
It feels weird to call that forcefield manipulation, or else that means that Hody was biting through a forcefield.
I guess Haki just somehow phases through your body, I have no idea.
It could, but Cavendish has a meito blade, and it's made out of iron
Exactly
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Updated OP with those who agree on what.
If you said "agree with all", I put you on all
If you said "agree with all", I put you on all
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We need more staff input.
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Most people on this forum know next to nothing about OP
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Regarding the Corrosion point, did any of the victims of the ash-cloud style petrifying poison actually suffer any of the effects of corrison? Kinemon or the G5 Marines, etc.
Because it's possible the poison works differently in its gaseous form compared to when they were touching the slime. (Well, we know it does. The slime didn't petrify them for example, or paralyze them).
Because it's possible the poison works differently in its gaseous form compared to when they were touching the slime. (Well, we know it does. The slime didn't petrify them for example, or paralyze them).
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Resistance to Heat and Fire Manipulation
This seems more like a result of Haki's Ability to create an invisible barrier around the user, not to mention the ability of Haki to neg DF abilities, so it's not really resistance so much as Power Null+Barrier CreationRegeneration Negation: Mid
Once again, this isn't negating regen, it's negating Marco's DF Power, so this once again falls under Power Null over Resistance NegationResistance to Spacial Manip
Once again, this is just a result of Haki negging DF's Power, you just need strong Haki to stop strong DF's PowerResistance to Intangibility Negation and to Resistance Negation
Resistance to Intangibility Negation seems fine to me, not sure about Resistance NegationResistance to Petrification, Paralysis, Corrosion, and Poison Manipulation
Eh, I guess this could be fine, but once again, this may just be another case of the invisible barrier Haki hasResistance to All Elements that fall under the Logia Category
Nah, this is just a result of Haki negging DF Powers
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That's true, I guess we can scrap the corrosion point then.
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For the few that says null/neg DF powers, we currently don't accept it as power null because we get a statement of not actually stopping DF users from using their ability. Power Null falls more under BB's fruit.
Marco's DF power is negated while Garp was in contact. He could've healed himself after or the next day but he didn't.
As for the rest, it makes sense, I appreciate the input
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We need to mainly discuss how this would work out of verse. Because we get a lot of "DF resistances" but DFs aren't like "chakra" or "magic", it's just random abilities that have no similarities to each other.
Are we going to make it Devil Fruit abilities resisted or are we gonna make it power nullification? Because there are lots of DFs inverse that we're saying "negged" even though that treatment won't work outside of verse, yet for some reason Haki isn't allowed Power Null.
Is it going to be power nullification, or should I just list every single devil fruit ability and say "resists".
Are we going to make it Devil Fruit abilities resisted or are we gonna make it power nullification? Because there are lots of DFs inverse that we're saying "negged" even though that treatment won't work outside of verse, yet for some reason Haki isn't allowed Power Null.
Is it going to be power nullification, or should I just list every single devil fruit ability and say "resists".
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I agree with the Regeneration Negation now, you make a good point that Marco could have healed over the days but he never did. I also agree with Haki resisting devil fruit abilities rather than it being a case of power null.
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I thought we had it listed as Limited Power Null? Maybe we did in the past at some point.
Either way, saying that Haki can resist all DF abilities or negate all powers obviously isn't right.
Either way, saying that Haki can resist all DF abilities or negate all powers obviously isn't right.
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Wait what the examples of Haki resisting/power nulling devil fruits?
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Haki punches on Gomu Gomu, Haki slashes on Supa Supa, Haki stopping Ope Ope, WB using his fruit while in contact with BB, Haki on Logias, Garp stopping Marco from regenerating, yeah
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fair enough then.
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