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It’s almost like Shin’s MS ability did all the work to stab Naruto or something…The same ninja sword v2 kurama could tank? Yet adult SPSM Naruto can't tank it? Talk about inconsistencies.
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It’s almost like Shin’s MS ability did all the work to stab Naruto or something…The same ninja sword v2 kurama could tank? Yet adult SPSM Naruto can't tank it? Talk about inconsistencies.
Maybe Shin simply scales higher…The same ninja sword v2 kurama could tank? Yet adult SPSM Naruto can't tank it? Talk about inconsistencies.
It's not about the weapon, it's about the force used to attack with it.The same ninja sword v2 kurama could tank? Yet adult SPSM Naruto can't tank it? Talk about inconsistencies.
Prove that the sword gets stronger "magically" based on who wields it.Maybe Shin simply scales higher…
It is less of an assertion that it is true through logical necessity and that alternative explanations are non-existent or necessarily false, and more of an observation that it is a valid interpretation.I have not once contested that. In fact, I have agreed that he’s nerfed. I don’t agree with your assertion that he’s extremely nerfed and running on fumes.
Sure, while having a larger amount of Chakra against a nerfed Borushiki. We can say that a fatigued Rinnengon Sasuke who can still use the Mangekyo is comparable to nerfed Borushiki trying to minimize his Chakra.And yet he could still fight with Borushiki with the base Sharingan, so honestly, irrelevant.
A) to echo Cyber the sword doesn’t shatter against collisions with Kinshiki, Fused Momo, Jigen, or Isshiki, so it isn’t some normal swordProve that the sword gets stronger "magically" based on who wields it.
Its not the same sword there's different kusanagis also who's using the sword matters moreThe same ninja sword v2 kurama could tank? Yet adult SPSM Naruto can't tank it? Talk about inconsistencies.
Unironically yes unfortunatelyIs it really being argued that a sword that can injure a Tier 5 character is a normal sword?
Delusional and blatantly falseBTW Shin damaging Naruto doesn’t mean the sword is 5-B.. Naruto has great physical durability but his skin and his organs are never shown to be above that of a normal human. Meaning, that you don’t need 5-B amounts of energy to pierce him
sword level frieza FTWIs it really being argued that a sword that can injure a Tier 5 character is a normal sword?
Borushiki dunks on Karma Code who scales to or above Delta as outlined in the OP.It is up in the air whether this nerfed Borushiki is Planetary. And while Sasuke is fatigued and got nerfed through loss of Rinnengan, there is no confirmation that he is weaker than he was while being so Chakra deprived he can't access his Mangekyo.
Alright, don’t insult him. Even if we disagree, we should stay civil.Delusional and blatantly false
You must’ve missed the scan of Naruto using Kurama chakra to blatantly tank piercing attacks against Orochimaru.Did ppl forget the concept of piercing damage again? I’m fine with Sasuke’s sword being 5-B from clashing with Kinshiki, I’m just saying stabbing Naruto isn’t 5-B because outside of Naruto’s durability to physical attacks, we haven’t seen him show any resilience to bladed weaponry
Piercing damage only goes so far. It’s not durability negation, you’re not gonna pierce a 5-B character with a 9-C sword.Did ppl forget the concept of piercing damage again? I’m fine with Sasuke’s sword being 5-B from clashing with Kinshiki, I’m just saying stabbing Naruto isn’t 5-B
sasuke's sword isnt normal lol, thing can clash with kinshiki and doesnt break. Sasuke picks out his weapons for his opponents because he believes they can help (itachi, etc), he isnt carrying around a fodder sword lol. Also shin was involved
Thats my point exactly. Sharp objects are very inconsistent against God tiers.Did ppl forget the concept of piercing damage again? I’m fine with Sasuke’s sword being 5-B from clashing with Kinshiki, I’m just saying stabbing Naruto isn’t 5-B because outside of Naruto’s durability to physical attacks, we haven’t seen him show any resilience to bladed weaponry
They aren’t lmao, people just scale that you don’t like scalingThats my point exactly. Sharp objects are very inconsistent against God tiers.
How is calling him delusional an insult? It literally just means "holding beliefs that are contradicted by reality and rational arguments" I'm calling the argument delusional or irrationalAlright, don’t insult him. Even if we disagree, we should stay civil.
Do you remember how Base momoshiki tanked Sasuke’s kusanagi just before he transformed into fused Momoshiki? That same Momoshiki was scared of giant shurikens thrown at him later on despite thr shurikens being a lot weaker than a Kusanagi. How are you going to justify that inconsistency? That is one case out of many others.They aren’t lmao, people just scale that you don’t like scaling
Again, Naruto using V2 Cloak laughed off piercing back when he was much weaker.
that's not how piercing damage works. there is a threshold of durability when the difference between piercing,blunt ect becomes irrelevant.Did ppl forget the concept of piercing damage again? I’m fine with Sasuke’s sword being 5-B from clashing with Kinshiki, I’m just saying stabbing Naruto isn’t 5-B because outside of Naruto’s durability to physical attacks,
he is literally stabbed later in this arc with no side effects and crushes the blade.we haven’t seen him show any resilience to bladed weaponry
Oh, that's interesting, mind getting the scan of that from the novel.I went to review a few more things and noticed something.
Regarding the discussion of AP and durability, yes in Naruto they completely depend on the amount of chakra they have at the moment, not just AP, but durability as well and I will explain.
In Naruto Retsuden it is stated that Naruto has lost the ability to use chakra, this is because even though Kurama only passes chakra when it wants to, some of its chakra is automatically released into Naruto's chakra tubes when he molds chakra. That is, this chakra assimilates with Naruto's when he uses his own chakra, and his body started to reject it, and thus, he could no longer fill the chakra tubes, not even one tenketsu, because he felt huge pains that could even kill him. Anyway, as he couldn't fill the tubes with chakra, it was stated that without the chakra in the tubes he was at the same physical level as an avarage human, this means that ninjas when they are not molding chakra have durability at the level of an average human, basically, as they lose chakra they approach the level of an average human.
What does this have to do with Sasuke? well, this answers the questions of AP and especially durability, As Sasuke loses chakra, he approaches the level of an average human. And in Gaiden's arc, his amount of chakra was so low that he couldn't keep all of tomoes on the Rinnegan, and it NEVER happened again. Basically, on only one occasion was Sasuke so nerfed he couldn't keep the tomoes.
And what to do with the scale: "Sasuke nerfed with Rinnegan > Sasuke without Rinnegan"? Well, in the case of Sasuke without rinnegan, he still maintained his chakra level enough to have all the tomoes seconds before it happened, which means that his physical level was extremely above the Gaiden arc, and the loss of the rinnegan makes him weak, but it doesn't approach him to the level of an average human like the ausency of chakra does. Basically, yes, a ninja's durability can come close to that of an avarage human depending on how much chakra he has, and he has lost powers, but chakra loss in general is much more damaging than the loss of the eye.
i suggest reading this:I went to review a few more things and noticed something.
Regarding the discussion of AP and durability, yes in Naruto they completely depend on the amount of chakra they have at the moment, not just AP, but durability as well and I will explain.
In Naruto Retsuden it is stated that Naruto has lost the ability to use chakra, this is because even though Kurama only passes chakra when it wants to, some of its chakra is automatically released into Naruto's chakra tubes when he molds chakra. That is, this chakra assimilates with Naruto's when he uses his own chakra, and his body started to reject it, and thus, he could no longer fill the chakra tubes, not even one tenketsu, because he felt huge pains that could even kill him. Anyway, as he couldn't fill the tubes with chakra, it was stated that without the chakra in the tubes he was at the same physical level as an avarage human, this means that ninjas when they are not molding chakra have durability at the level of an average human, basically, as they lose chakra they approach the level of an average human.
What does this have to do with Sasuke? well, this answers the questions of AP and especially durability, As Sasuke loses chakra, he approaches the level of an average human. And in Gaiden's arc, his amount of chakra was so low that he couldn't keep all of tomoes on the Rinnegan, and it NEVER happened again. Basically, on only one occasion was Sasuke so nerfed he couldn't keep the tomoes.
And what to do with the scale: "Sasuke nerfed with Rinnegan > Sasuke without Rinnegan"? Well, in the case of Sasuke without rinnegan, he still maintained his chakra level enough to have all the tomoes seconds before it happened, which means that his physical level was extremely above the Gaiden arc, and the loss of the rinnegan makes him weak, but it doesn't approach him to the level of an average human like the ausency of chakra does. Basically, yes, a ninja's durability can come close to that of an avarage human depending on how much chakra he has, and he has lost powers, but chakra loss in general is much more damaging than the loss of the eye.
There are many people who unironically think that sadlyPlease tell me people aren't trying to argue that I could run up and shank Naruto with a kitchen knife....
Aight, I'm gonna go give myself a concussion in an attempt to erase this from my memory because I can't handle stupidity like this anymore....There are many people who unironically think that sadly
Thats my point exactly. Sharp objects are very inconsistent against God tiers.
I stand by that it is an apt description though his argument goes against on panel feats and doesn't really have any substantiation so I think it's irrational at its core and is just a reactionary position he took so I'm going to call it how I see it it wasn't meant to insult him, but regardless off topic I apologize if I offendedDelusion is often used in a mocking manner to belittle someone is why it's considered an insult. You can call out someone's argument without calling them delusional or it delusional is all
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