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It’s almost like Shin’s MS ability did all the work to stab Naruto or something…
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Awarding Boruto Many Success Achievements Via Shippuden Achievements Of Success
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Maybe Shin simply scales higher…
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It's not about the weapon, it's about the force used to attack with it.
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sasuke's sword isnt normal lol, thing can clash with kinshiki and doesnt break. Sasuke picks out his weapons for his opponents because he believes they can help (itachi, etc), he isnt carrying around a fodder sword lol. Also shin was involved
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Prove that the sword gets stronger "magically" based on who wields it.
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It is less of an assertion that it is true through logical necessity and that alternative explanations are non-existent or necessarily false, and more of an observation that it is a valid interpretation.
It just happens to be a preferable interpretation once we start comparing with the alternative, due to the minimization of inconsistencies and power scaling issues.
Sure, while having a larger amount of Chakra against a nerfed Borushiki. We can say that a fatigued Rinnengon Sasuke who can still use the Mangekyo is comparable to nerfed Borushiki trying to minimize his Chakra.
It is up in the air whether this nerfed Borushiki is Planetary. And while Sasuke is fatigued and got nerfed through loss of Rinnengan, there is no confirmation that he is weaker than he was while being so Chakra deprived he can't access his Mangekyo.
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A) to echo Cyber the sword doesn’t shatter against collisions with Kinshiki, Fused Momo, Jigen, or Isshiki, so it isn’t some normal sword
B) the speed and thus KE that Shin launched it with his MS would simply be enough to pierce Naruto as that is what is explicitly shown
Just because a magic ninja harms someone doesn’t mean Joe Shmoe can
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doesnt need to, sasuke's weaponry is meant to be in tier of himself.
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BTW Shin damaging Naruto doesn’t mean the sword is 5-B.. Naruto has great physical durability but his skin and his organs are never shown to be above that of a normal human. Meaning, that you don’t need 5-B amounts of energy to pierce him
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I don't see why this sword is being treated as something special, it's Sasuke's sword and we see him defend with it and fend off other people whose scaling to him isn't in question. The sword can be used for 5-B or whatever tier Sasuke is at it. We generally assume, unless otherwise told, that weaponry scales with its user. Since otherwise, the weaponry wouldn't really be much use
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Is it really being argued that a sword that can injure a Tier 5 character is a normal sword?
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Its not the same sword there's different kusanagis also who's using the sword matters more
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Unironically yes unfortunately
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Delusional and blatantly false
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sword level frieza FTW
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Borushiki dunks on Karma Code who scales to or above Delta as outlined in the OP.
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Alright, don’t insult him. Even if we disagree, we should stay civil.
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Did ppl forget the concept of piercing damage again? I’m fine with Sasuke’s sword being 5-B from clashing with Kinshiki, I’m just saying stabbing Naruto isn’t 5-B because outside of Naruto’s durability to physical attacks, we haven’t seen him show any resilience to bladed weaponry
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it doesnt even matter to the thread.
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You must’ve missed the scan of Naruto using Kurama chakra to blatantly tank piercing attacks against Orochimaru.
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Piercing damage only goes so far. It’s not durability negation, you’re not gonna pierce a 5-B character with a 9-C sword.
Not to mention Naruto having tanked piercing attacks in the past, like others have brought up.
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Thats my point exactly. Sharp objects are very inconsistent against God tiers.
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They aren’t lmao, people just scale that you don’t like scaling
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How is calling him delusional an insult?
It literally just means "holding beliefs that are contradicted by reality and rational arguments" I'm calling the argument delusional or irrational 
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Delusion is often used in a mocking manner to belittle someone is why it's considered an insult. You can call out someone's argument without calling them delusional or it delusional is all
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I went to review a few more things and noticed something.
Regarding the discussion of AP and durability, yes in Naruto they completely depend on the amount of chakra they have at the moment, not just AP, but durability as well and I will explain.
In Naruto Retsuden it is stated that Naruto has lost the ability to use chakra, this is because even though Kurama only passes chakra when it wants to, some of its chakra is automatically released into Naruto's chakra tubes when he molds chakra. That is, this chakra assimilates with Naruto's when he uses his own chakra, and his body started to reject it, and thus, he could no longer fill the chakra tubes, not even one tenketsu, because he felt huge pains that could even kill him. Anyway, as he couldn't fill the tubes with chakra, it was stated that without the chakra in the tubes he was at the same physical level as an avarage human, this means that ninjas when they are not molding chakra have durability at the level of an average human, basically, as they lose chakra they approach the level of an average human.
What does this have to do with Sasuke? well, this answers the questions of AP and especially durability, As Sasuke loses chakra, he approaches the level of an average human. And in Gaiden's arc, his amount of chakra was so low that he couldn't keep all of tomoes on the Rinnegan, and it NEVER happened again. Basically, on only one occasion was Sasuke so nerfed he couldn't keep the tomoes.
And what to do with the scale: "Sasuke nerfed with Rinnegan > Sasuke without Rinnegan"? Well, in the case of Sasuke without rinnegan, he still maintained his chakra level enough to have all the tomoes seconds before it happened, which means that his physical level was extremely above the Gaiden arc, and the loss of the rinnegan makes him weak, but it doesn't approach him to the level of an average human like the ausency of chakra does. Basically, yes, a ninja's durability can come close to that of an avarage human depending on how much chakra he has, and he has lost powers, but chakra loss in general is much more damaging than the loss of the eye.
Regarding the discussion of AP and durability, yes in Naruto they completely depend on the amount of chakra they have at the moment, not just AP, but durability as well and I will explain.
In Naruto Retsuden it is stated that Naruto has lost the ability to use chakra, this is because even though Kurama only passes chakra when it wants to, some of its chakra is automatically released into Naruto's chakra tubes when he molds chakra. That is, this chakra assimilates with Naruto's when he uses his own chakra, and his body started to reject it, and thus, he could no longer fill the chakra tubes, not even one tenketsu, because he felt huge pains that could even kill him. Anyway, as he couldn't fill the tubes with chakra, it was stated that without the chakra in the tubes he was at the same physical level as an avarage human, this means that ninjas when they are not molding chakra have durability at the level of an average human, basically, as they lose chakra they approach the level of an average human.
What does this have to do with Sasuke? well, this answers the questions of AP and especially durability, As Sasuke loses chakra, he approaches the level of an average human. And in Gaiden's arc, his amount of chakra was so low that he couldn't keep all of tomoes on the Rinnegan, and it NEVER happened again. Basically, on only one occasion was Sasuke so nerfed he couldn't keep the tomoes.
And what to do with the scale: "Sasuke nerfed with Rinnegan > Sasuke without Rinnegan"? Well, in the case of Sasuke without rinnegan, he still maintained his chakra level enough to have all the tomoes seconds before it happened, which means that his physical level was extremely above the Gaiden arc, and the loss of the rinnegan makes him weak, but it doesn't approach him to the level of an average human like the ausency of chakra does. Basically, yes, a ninja's durability can come close to that of an avarage human depending on how much chakra he has, and he has lost powers, but chakra loss in general is much more damaging than the loss of the eye.
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Do you remember how Base momoshiki tanked Sasuke’s kusanagi just before he transformed into fused Momoshiki? That same Momoshiki was scared of giant shurikens thrown at him later on despite thr shurikens being a lot weaker than a Kusanagi. How are you going to justify that inconsistency? That is one case out of many others.
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Naruto in BSM tanked GWRE which is specifically called a blade in the novelization as well the notion he's weak to piercing isn't true by any margin
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that's not how piercing damage works. there is a threshold of durability when the difference between piercing,blunt ect becomes irrelevant.
he is literally stabbed later in this arc with no side effects and crushes the blade.
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Oh, that's interesting, mind getting the scan of that from the novel.
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Please tell me people aren't trying to argue that I could run up and shank Naruto with a kitchen knife....
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There are many people who unironically think that sadly
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8 threads already 
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Aight, I'm gonna go give myself a concussion in an attempt to erase this from my memory because I can't handle stupidity like this anymore....
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I stand by that it is an apt description though his argument goes against on panel feats and doesn't really have any substantiation so I think it's irrational at its core and is just a reactionary position he took so I'm going to call it how I see it it wasn't meant to insult him, but regardless off topic I apologize if I offended
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