2A (Possibly L1C) Devil May Cry - A relevant closer to a CRT

[Tony_di_bugalu]

So it's been like 9 days, and as much as I'm fine with basically waiting an infinite amount of time, I know some others definitely aren't. So at what point will we have to go with DontTalk isn't coming, what's the cut off date exactly to call it there for that? (2 weeks, 1 month, 1.5 months, etc?)

Realistically there is no need to wait given that staff in it's majority has accepted this thread, so even if DT disagreed it wouldn't change much if anything.

Unless, people wanna start pulling the appeal to authority card.

 

[Random-Helper323]

Yeah, if it's left for too long it'll end up being one of those revisions that gets accepted but never applied, and those always cause trouble later.

 

[SeijiSetto]

i feel like it would be worth pinging the staff that already agreed and asking them if their opinion remains the same after discussion that went on

 

[Vietthai96]

Can we not bring up hyperbole thing here??, like seriously, sure, ray of light and unending darkness seem like a flowery, hyperbolic texts, but this very hyperbolic texts is used to describe the relationship between the Demon Realm and Human World, which the Demon Realm is an unending darkness and the Human World is an insignificant thing compare to the Demon Realm - a ray of light compare to unending darkness.

Just because some statements are flowery doesn't mean it dismiss their underlying meaning, when authors write their "stories", they can perfectly using flowery texts to convey their underlying intentions and meaning while making the texts more poetic and not crude, it is called metaphorical comparison

 

[Drite77]

I don't think I've commented here, but it seems like 2-A/L1-C is solely based on " The Demon World, as an infinite realm containing countless worlds, should logically qualify as at least Multiverse+ in scale, wouldn’t you agree? This seems undeniable, given that the entire premise of the last conversation relied on it"

I see no reason why that's undeniable, an Infinite Universe can hold countless worlds no? After all it is infinite '-'

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Realistically there is no need to wait given that staff in it's majority has accepted this thread, so even if DT disagreed it wouldn't change much if anything.

Unless, people wanna start pulling the appeal to authority card.

I'll do ya a few better:

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So I'd say, given Ultima's original comments, the revision should absolutely not be applied yet given the uncertainty if the standards even allow it.

That being said...

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If an admin considers the thread as it stands can be applied, that's a different story.

 

[AlphaOmegaV1]

So general consensus seems to be that 2-A is accepted, but Low 1-C's a no go?

 

[SuperSonicTL]

I don't think I've commented here, but it seems like 2-A/L1-C is solely based on " The Demon World, as an infinite realm containing countless worlds, should logically qualify as at least Multiverse+ in scale, wouldn’t you agree? This seems undeniable, given that the entire premise of the last conversation relied on it"

I see no reason why that's undeniable, an Infinite Universe can hold countless worlds no? After all it is infinite '-'

Not the same, that violates the logic L1C is based on let alone 2A. Demon World on panel has statements of containing space-time continuums as well as giving birth to Human World which, again, is a space-time continuum and has separate rules of space and time in comparison to other space-times within it. It obviously acts as a superspace for all worlds. It's pretty much undeniable at this point.

 

[SYPHe5D]

So it's been like 9 days, and as much as I'm fine with basically waiting an infinite amount of time, I know some others definitely aren't. So at what point will we have to go with DontTalk isn't coming, what's the cut off date exactly to call it there for that? (2 weeks, 1 month, 1.5 months, etc?)

If I recall correctly, it is 2 weeks after the thread was made.

 

[SuperSonicTL]

So general consensus seems to be that 2-A is accepted, but Low 1-C's a no go?

A possible L1C rating is a go-go too alongside 2A.

 

[Drite77]

Not the same, that violates the logic L1C is based on let alone 2A. Demon World on panel has statements of containing space-time continuums as well as giving birth to Human World which, again, is a space-time continuum and has separate rules of space and time in comparison to other space-times within it. It obviously as a superspace for all worlds. It's pretty much undeniable at this point.

Bro, the statement was that the Universe was split into two, one the Demon World, the other the Human World, the Demon World did not give birth to the human world '-'

 

[SYPHe5D]

The world was born of/from darkness
Darkness is the demon world, that has been agreed upon,therefore the human world was born from the demon world.
Tho regardless, if you don t believe that to be true then that won’t change anything.

 

[SuperSonicTL]

Bro, the statement was that the Universe was split into two, one the Demon World, the other the Human World, the Demon World did not give birth to the human world '-'

 

[HammerStrikes219]

I just gonna post this scan here and say nothing else for DMC stuff

 

[Sebas-S.P-san]

Agree with 2-A

 

[Drite77]

That didn't answer my question, in fact, the scan the lad above posted, which was what I am referring, answers. The Demon World and the Human world were split, the Demon World did not give birth to the human world '-'

 

[Sir_Ovens]

I believe the biggest issue with this entire revision is that there's no precedent for this.

We need some proper standards set before we allow 2-A based on potentially being able to store a 2-A amount of stuff within a space.